VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

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Fun Shaundi

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Journey95 said:
I wish the dev would focus on one game for a time. Two are clearly too much. It will be years before this game gets even close to the old version with the current development time

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That's what I was thinking. I like SG a little more, but I wouldn't care which one Ocean decided to focus on, as long as he kept updating it.
Not only are the updates slower this way, but it also surprises me he hasn't fall victim of burnout. I've tried to work in 3 different stories at the same time, and I ended up having to put 2 of them on hold because it was affecting my ability to write, and it made me feel so tired and uninspired.
 
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When you have people literally describing this game as the absolute peak of realistic storytelling and above all the other low-brow porn on this site, it comes across as a bit ridiculous when there’s dozens of women with huge porn star tits.
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Realistic storytelling means putting characters in believable situations and having them act like believable, multi-faceted people. Whether the characters have idealized proportions or not doesn't factor into it, unless the situations they're put in specifically makes a point about said appearances lol.
 
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Journey95 said:
I wish the dev would focus on one game for a time. Two are clearly too much. It will be years before this game gets even close to the old version with the current development time

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Since the only reality is "Ocean does not want to leave the game", giving that as the only possible answer, I propose you to think about the different scenarios that can occur:
Put SG on hold: would you put your most popular game, the one that grows little by little with each passing month despite the long periods of development, on hold for an indeterminate time?
Put on pause WIAB: if SG advances steadily, not as a stand alone but as part of a universe that starts in WIAB, wouldn't that make every connection or easter egg a possible major spoiler? would you play later a game where you know some of the plot beforehand? because spoilers in SG that connect directly with the main characters of WIAB would be huge spoilers?
Abandon WIAB: if you can't pause a game because the other would uncover secrets, you can only leave it unfinished, ...
Last but not least, what nobody thinks is even a possibility, abandon SG.
I also believed that the reasonable thing to do was to put something on pause, but that implies so many problems that in the end the only thing left is to abandon the less successful project.
And I insist, the only answer is the official one, Ocean is not going to abandon WIAB.
 
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muschi26 said:
Realistic storytelling means putting characters in believable situations and having them act like believable, multi-faceted people. Whether the characters have idealized proportions or not doesn't factor into it, unless the situations they're put in specifically makes a point about said appearances lol.
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realistic and believable are not the same thing...
You can create the most unrealistic fantasy universe and still make your story believable...
 
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muschi26 said:
Realistic storytelling means putting characters in believable situations and having them act like believable, multi-faceted people. Whether the characters have idealized proportions or not doesn't factor into it, unless the situations they're put in specifically makes a point about said appearances lol
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I think character appearance can break immersion in storytelling, and hurt believability. For instance, Helen and Scarlett’s revamped designs made them seem far too young to look like mothers of multiple adult children. The aesthetic can absolutely effect the narrative.
 
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t3alqdansam said:
significant age differences can bother some at a young age. As you get older and, theoretically, mature the age differences are not as significant. Reference Bogart and Bacall.
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Jason Statham and his partner he is like 20 plus years older than her. But then he is fit bloke.
 
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My fiance is 8 years younger than me, and that has never been an issue. On the other hand, when I dated women older than me, same age as me or 2 years younger than me, things didn't work out.
I think MC and Katie are both in an age where this isn't an issue, what it matters is the compatibility they have with each other.
 
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Fun Shaundi said:
In just a couple of days I finished both Summer's Gone and Where It All Began. Since I saw some interesting comments about the 'old version' of WIAB, I decided to give it a go too.
Not saying it was bad, but I'm glad Ocean decided to 'remaster' it. The new models and little tweaks look GREAT (and I know I'm in the minority, but I really like the MC's look, hair included :p).
Old version was staring to get too unbelievable at some point, but the new version seems to have more natural dialogue.
I also loved the new atmosphere: It feels hauntingly beautiful, gives you an aura of nostalgia and mystery that the first version didn't give me. And hell, the cinematics are soooo goood.
I also struggled to like Miru in the ov. In the current one, she still isn't my favorite :p but I found her more likeable and human.
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I dunno something about miru and bang bang time... I like her personality and would like to know more about her not just her kinks.
 
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how different is the old version from the reworked verison?
Is it like Vis?
Vis was almost 50% changed (drunkedly eyeballing). If both versions are already at the same point, Is any of the old content missed?
 
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OleJackRipper said:
how different is the old version from the reworked verison?
Is it like Vis?
Vis was almost 50% changed (drunkedly eyeballing). If both versions are already at the same point, Is any of the old content missed?
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100% changed, the story framework is the same but we already met new characters and some pre-existent characters have a (thankfully) different personality. The render and animation quality went from potato to the best in the market.
The original and the rework are nowhere close to the same point, original was at ch6 while rework is at ch1.
 
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