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Fun Shaundi

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bro no one gives a fk about your stupid graphics card, the consumers or more importantly the patrons want results and progress not 2 pages how you explain what graphics card is better.. geez4
You're complaining cause Ocean is trying to be transparent about what's going on, and if he didn't post this somebody else would be bitching cause he's 'keeping patrons and consumers in the dark', so there's never a win-win situation here.

For what I've noticed the majority of people likes to know about this stuff though (sometimes they even learn a thing or 2 about it). But being an absolute brat just cause YOU don't like explanations is something else.
 

Uriel ☁

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this dev complains about needing money and loans to buy some important piece of hardware all the time, he says it'll help him speed up the rendering process, he's been saying it for years, he keeps raising the bar for what he needs to buy, but his update output remains forever slow.
He isn't complaining about it, he's telling what his plan is to reinvest the income from SG (ch5) and WiAB (ch3) Steam release.
And if you had any reading comprehension you would understand he's actually lowering the bar and switching solutions compared to his original one. And he's doing that precisely to explain his patrons what he plans to do to tackle the long dev time.
 

drooopy

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He isn't complaining about it, he's telling what his plan is to reinvest the income from SG (ch5) and WiAB (ch3) Steam release.
And if you had any reading comprehension you would understand he's actually lowering the bar and switching solutions compared to his original one. And he's doing that precisely to explain his patrons what he plans to do to tackle the long dev time.
yeah, yeah, promises, promises, he said same thing when he needed money for animation software to speed up animations, update takes just as long to release. Before that he said "when I get X amount of money I'll buy a new video card which will help me dish out an update every 6 months, I promise" and here we are, he got the money he wanted, but the promise was broken.

But please, continue with the ass kissing, don't let me stop you.

Also, his problem isn't better hardware, he could easily buy new pc, simple fix, it's his meandering, he at some point delayed update for a month or two cause he couldn't find the music he wanted. There's always something with him that compels him to delay the release, always.
 

Uriel ☁

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yeah, yeah, promises, promises, he said same thing when he needed money for animation software to speed up animations, update takes just as long to release. Before that he said "when I get X amount of money I'll buy a new video card which will help me dish out an update every 6 months, I promise" and here we are, he got the money he wanted, but the promise was broken.
He literally never said any of that, but yeah don't let facts keep you from spinning your narrative.

You know what pisses me off?
If you follow the development of these games you never know what's going on in the development side. You never know what's happening right now, what the plans for the future are.
Then you have Ocean that's open to a fault. He says what's working, what's not, what he's trying to do even if sometimes it doesn't work, where he spent his supporters money and where he plans to spend the incoming one.

Then there're <REDACTED> like you that are just waiting to use all of that against him.
And that's why today in AVN we don't have release dates anymore. Why we don't even have release windows, why we know literally nothing of what's going on.
 

faramata

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Yeah, so could I, if only I had a spare EUR 6,000-10,000 laying round to buy something appropriately spec'ed. I wish real life was as easy and simple as you claim.
yeah, yeah, promises, promises, he said same thing when he needed money for animation software to speed up animations, update takes just as long to release. Before that he said "when I get X amount of money I'll buy a new video card which will help me dish out an update every 6 months, I promise" and here we are, he got the money he wanted, but the promise was broken.

But please, continue with the ass kissing, don't let me stop you.

Also, his problem isn't better hardware, he could easily buy new pc, simple fix, it's his meandering, he at some point delayed update for a month or two cause he couldn't find the music he wanted. There's always something with him that compels him to delay the release, always.
You may be right, but there is also the problem that unfortunately, for the ambitious renders Ocean makes, he needs an insanely expensive PC. Especially since the Iray scam is based on not allowing you to use the system RAM to load the scenes, so you're limited to the RAM of the videocard. To my shock, ever since upgrading to Windows 10 I can't render scenes I used to be able to render in Windows 8 since the OS uses half of my 4 GB VRAM. Loading a portrait of Victoria 9 and a hair piece fucking required 7,9 GB of RAM. IOW a card with 8 GB is not even enough anymore, especially if new models are going to be using 8000 pixel textures (they are now at 4000). Add to that HD geometry and the environments and you're sure to need a big card. The only cards that have a reasonable price are the 12 GB ones.
 
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rerderrum

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Yeah, so could I, if only I had a spare EUR 6,000-10,000 laying round to buy something appropriately spec'ed. I wish real life was as easy and simple as you claim.
And then pay the electricity bill of like 300Euros, if not more, every month for that single PC. I pay 70 and have one PC with a 970 that runs maybe 6-8 hours a day on average, still I had to pay another 500 last month because I used too much. The prices in germany are ludicrous since a few years.
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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yeah, yeah, promises, promises, he said same thing when he needed money for animation software to speed up animations, update takes just as long to release. Before that he said "when I get X amount of money I'll buy a new video card which will help me dish out an update every 6 months, I promise" and here we are, he got the money he wanted, but the promise was broken.

But please, continue with the ass kissing, don't let me stop you.

Also, his problem isn't better hardware, he could easily buy new pc, simple fix, it's his meandering, he at some point delayed update for a month or two cause he couldn't find the music he wanted. There's always something with him that compels him to delay the release, always.
For the GPU price Ocean wanted to buy, you can buy a car.
And German bureaucracy says hi. (about the loan)
 

Lolly - Molly

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Those eyes up in the header are like a damn invitation to dive in deeper... The renders are giving off that "something big's coming" vibe, no doubt. Steering clear of that NTR stuff, but major kudos for giving us a shot at it. Big shoutout to you for providing this chance, and mad luck to the devs on their journey!
 
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mommysboiii

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Those eyes up in the header are like a damn invitation to dive in deeper... The renders are giving off that "something big's coming" vibe, no doubt. Steering clear of that NTR stuff, but major kudos for giving us a shot at it. Big shoutout to you for providing this chance, and mad luck to the devs on their journey!
in which render you see that (something big is coming) for us ntr bois :unsure: :unsure:
 

Cabin Fever

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Those eyes up in the header are like a damn invitation to dive in deeper... The renders are giving off that "something big's coming" vibe, no doubt.
As much as I enjoy Ocean's renderings, I gotta ask, what are you yammering on about? Those eyes in the banner says nothing to me except "dev has good rendering skills". Whatever you're smoking, can I have some? It's some powerful stuff. :p
 

KekWGgWP

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that's bullshit, no one complains about not knowing what video cards devs use.

this dev complains about needing money and loans to buy some important piece of hardware all the time, he says it'll help him speed up the rendering process, he's been saying it for years, he keeps raising the bar for what he needs to buy, but his update output remains forever slow.

You can kiss his ass as much as you want but that's the truth.
Well he works at two games at the same time, it's no easy job, and both got remaded pretty much from scratch.
 
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