VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[O1duvai]

Bro, I'm all for freedom of expression and speech. And I don't like the current situation with plot changes either in Wiab. I'm just saying that what kind of demand can there be from small indie developers when billion-dollar super corporations are on their knees and trembling and afraid to inflict a joke or the wrong plot because someone will find it insult. The comedy genre is at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, and other genres are almost dead.

So, on the contrary, it should encourage little dev's to somehow go beyond the limits. While giant corporations are chewing soap (they seem to have stopped doing this, except for Sony)))0, small developers can provide content that the audience wants and that they will like. This will directly affect income and reviews, and this, in turn, is seen by the platform and... Reflects. I don't think Valve employs idiots.

And I don’t mean immediately rushing to extremes and saturating the game with synthetic drugs and rape (I condemn and, in principle, do not like such content). Even the same incest, in most countries, is NOT prohibited. There are only age limits. All these Twitter clowns, fortunately, have not yet learned how to write laws.

 

[Crashbullet]

After all those years, still just sex scene with Miru and no one else.

Hey, but we got a "new game"

And we're still alive.

 

[Niuul]

The more I think about it the more of a mess the story is going to get since it's treading in to the Mafia scene. Ocean is going to have to whiteboard criminal empires and how each interfamily relationship works and even the law enforcement investigations. If not and you just wing it it's going to quickly become apparent how little forethought went in to it. Not even mentioning relationships with LI that William is going to have to form within said mafia empire shenanigans if this game wants to keep putting the A in AVN.

I don't even want to think about how much rewriting will need to happen in SG because of something that gets added to WiAB down the line. With updates taking as long as they do I'm finding myself less and less excited for the updates. Going to be 20 years before the Oceanverse is done since there's supposedly another game to make as well and that's hilarious to think about.

 

[El_Magnifico]

The more I think about it the more of a mess the story is going to get since it's treading in to the Mafia scene. Ocean is going to have to whiteboard criminal empires and how each interfamily relationship works and even the law enforcement investigations. If not and you just wing it it's going to quickly become apparent how little forethought went in to it. Not even mentioning relationships with LI that William is going to have to form within said mafia empire shenanigans if this game wants to keep putting the A in AVN.

I don't even want to think about how much rewriting will need to happen in SG because of something that gets added to WiAB down the line.

I can't wait for the reveal that Bella missing dad was a gangster too and that her sister was hurt during a gang war

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I can't wait for the reveal that Bella missing dad was a gangster too and that her sister was hurt during a gang war

I'm willing to stay if Ocean promises me a face to face between Nika and William to avenge our "parents"

N: You killed my father
W: No Nika, I am your father

 

[Miranha157]

I haven't played it yet because I don't have time. Did Will deflower Leia in this update?

 

[LHDLLB]

Almost forgot to reply to this: I also like it. It's not the same but it has better internal logic than other compromises migh have resulted in. I think it lays a great foundation for an adult crime series where the focus is not the sex even though there is sex.

I mean, keeping the old story, once Willi and Leia are twins, what drama's left to uncover? the crime plot line. We'll the IC stuff is over and done, lets get on with the crime drama I guess? Works for me. The IC thing can't last 28 chapters or whatever it is without feeling forced, ar ortificially drawn out. This, action drives forward. Willi being chaotic, the chess references etc.



Maybe not in th next 2-3 years, but over the life time of the development, Steam anf GOG are bound to change.



Katie is adorable in the update. But I'm also suprised by how much more I appreciated Miru in this update. And Leia's not someone I'm interested in, but damn her character went leaps and bounds into cooler territory. Zoey also surprised me, especially when Willi gets the chance to lick her pussy. Dana's great too - I also like that Zoey gives Willi crap for dry humping her.



Yes, I still like what I'm playing even though it's different. It's been a while I treated it as a new thing.



I think more as a hyphenated name.



Out of reacts but again, pretty much nailed what I'm feeling too. There's a LOT of potential for this toactually simplify the plot transitions to SG in my opinion, and it's become much more of a unified concept.

I do get the disapointment of subs who subbed purely for the nudge nudge wink wink side of things, but the world is getting more regulated, not less.

Also, Ocean as a dev, as he gets older, will he want to be known as the dev of IC games to his family? People forget that devs have real lives. It's not just anonymous internet things. Ocean might have rethought the personal consequences of the story he's been writing, not just the headaches of finding ways to keep subs on platforms, but the real issue of the sideways glances at his family meets.

Games/AVNs aren't all there is in life.

Too be completely honest, Is a better end result than I hoped for. He either had to went full incest or drop it. For what it is now, I think it is the best that it could be. But is crazy the tonal shift that this update has. We got 3 chapters of family drama, of the roles this people played yesrs ago. Their mistakes and shortcomings. I trully thinks we missed something there, not because incest but tbe weight of it all.

That said I liked the new direction to the stoty but you can feel the shift in this update and that is something that I will take a time to adjust too.

 

[Crashbullet]

I haven't played it yet because I don't have time. Did Will deflower Leia in this update?

Come back in a couple of years.

 

[Niuul]

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I'm willing to stay if Ocean promises me a face to face between Nika and William to avenge our "parents"

N: You killed my father
W: No Nika, I am your father

Or you could play the "My name is Nika Cyrus, you killed my father. Prepare to die."

 

[mammonite]

boring , so much yapping.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Too be completely honest, Is a better end result than I hoped for. He either had to went full incest or drop it. For what it is now, I think it is the best that it could be. But is crazy the tonal shift that this update has. We got 3 chapters of family drama, of the roles this people played yesrs ago. Their mistakes and shortcomings. I trully things we missed something there, not because incest but tbe weight of it all.

That said I liked the new direction to the stoty but you can feel the shift in this update and that is something that I will take a time to adjust too.

Yeah agreed. I think it'll settle into place around the next update. Ocean'll focus on getting SG out now, and making sure it's consistent with WiaB, then we move forward, he'll polish WiaB while it's in Early Access.

 

[UncleFappy]

Or you could play the "My name is Nika Cyrus, you killed my father. Prepare to die."

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Nika needs to reaaaaaaally spend time in Ayua's dojo for that first. And then maybe get some cybernetic enhancements. With his genetics, William 20 years later is probably jacked like Ronnie Coleman, but he's also got decades of ninja training. He's gonna be like Oliver from Baki.

 

[Maccabbee]

It was a simple and understandable core, Willy did something "universally" seen as wrong and when he risked being discovered as an immature teenager he ran away. Now we have an "uncle" Giuseppe who at the same time wants to use them as pawns for alliances with the Zane and does not consider them Zane

That's not accurate at all. The ZANES wanted to marry the kids off for political reasons (at least, at first). Uncle Giuseppe is one of the three judges in their alliance with other families, they resolve disputes and punish rulebreakers that effect the alliance (think the Five Families in NY, they're different families, but there are rules that govern their interactions, and meetings to discuss disputes).

 

[klou]

Chapter 1

-Reject blowjob
- ask open relationship
- you are my weirdo
- again open relationship option
Chapter 2
-Reject bathroom gym fuck
- finger her

Chapter3
- accept pool blowjob

Make the rest of the decission in chapters how you like

tnx bro

 

[Crashbullet]

That's not accurate at all. The ZANES wanted to marry the kids off for political reasons (at least, at first). Uncle Giuseppe is one of the three judges in their alliance with other families, they resolve disputes and punish rulebreakers that effect the alliance (think the Five Families in NY, they're different families, but there are rules that govern their interactions, and meetings to discuss disputes).

There was a "commission" and it was just engaged in resolving disputes and wars, wars are bad for business, and they didn't decide who would marry whom, and then we got the mediocre version of GoT, but even there the family decided with whom to marry, you see, he even wrote nonsense in this that we need to accept.

 

[LHDLLB]

Yeah agreed. I think it'll settle into place around the next update. Ocean'll focus on getting SG out now, and making sure it's consistent with WiaB, then we move forward, he'll polish WiaB while it's in Early Access.

I think he really need tk ajust early scenes. Make William more suspicious of Dylan and Helen, make them more distant. The tone difference is huge and is my only complain about the how the solver the issue, is really better than I hoped for. But just drop it all, don't make references to Helen as a mother or something like that. Make their relationship one born of necessity and practicality not love , and tone down Katie bully, she can't have be bullied as hard if she was the blood child. Still there is a couple of plot holes but much less than if he have tryed have is cake and eat it too. I loved the William mirror scene, but I hope that his shame over Leia also os tonned down. All in all. Good update.

 

[Doomyk]

That's not accurate at all. The ZANES wanted to marry the kids off for political reasons (at least, at first). Uncle Giuseppe is one of the three judges in their alliance with other families, they resolve disputes and punish rulebreakers that effect the alliance (think the Five Families in NY, they're different families, but there are rules that govern their interactions, and meetings to discuss disputes).

I wonder if this will be part of the plot in the future, namely the family's attempt to somehow force William into a marriage of convenience and somehow set him and Miru apart?

 

[mommysboiii]

I understand what you're saying, but I only half agree with you. I also don't like these streamers (either right or left). One side hides behind people of color, gays, etc. as a shield to hide their failures, and the other side sees only this as a red rag to a bull, not noticing the real problem - censorship and political correctness. And I know very well how exactly the censorship of Patreon began, when Trump was in his first term in office and the Republicans passed another law. But the other side is no better with its political correctness. And in the end, we have that ordinary people suffer from censorship from both sides.

Hell yeah brother

We COOMERS need to stick together like a swarm and get our creativ freedom

The COOMER alliance

Fap bros and sisters unite

 

[Crashbullet]

I wonder if this will be part of the plot in the future, namely the family's attempt to somehow force William into a marriage of convenience and somehow set him and Miru apart?

Of course it will, do you know why Ayua became Zane? Dylan made a bibi to Miru

 

[Maccabbee]

I wonder if this will be part of the plot in the future, namely the family's attempt to somehow force William into a marriage of convenience and somehow set him and Miru apart?

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