For goodness sake. Whatever reason Leia took over Joe's business, it wasn't necessarily because she was a "Zane." Leia even thinks the Zanes don't want her to succeed, as she confides to William. William calls her paranoid. Nothing in the rework so far points to William or Leia being heirs apparent to the Zane criminal empire. Thus, anything like that is pure speculation at this stage.You've got to be intentionally obtuse, here. You can be in the Zane mob family and not be a Zane. You think all the bosses and soldiers are blood related? Don't be an idiot.
William and Leia, despite having their own family names, are also referred to as Zane, both in name and as part of the "family." Learn to read and understand, not just look at line notes or single shots without putting it all together. The only time I recall them being referred to as just Grimaldi or Pedersoli is on the fed's board. That has been theorized and explained that they only use official names. Real police use both official legal names AND aliases on these boards. Ocean didn't. Mafia reasons, I suppose.
When William left the family he was 16!!!! Why would he have any knowlege of the structure and workings of the "family business" at that age? Did you watch the Sopranos? Meadow was in college, and the dipshit son in high school, and Tony and Carmella both denied the existance of the mafia, never mind the Soprano family business. Criminal organisations keep secrets or they get busted up and imprisoned. Yes, the Zanes keep secrets. Even normals do that, never mind criminals. You have no context or clue how these things work, in reality or otherwise.
Even when people explain this shit to you, it's like you've never seen it or read it, and repeat the same points over and over again. Your arguments are not invalid, but neither is anyone else's, because we don't have all of the facts needed to prove or disprove them yet.
In game, unless we witness things happening, things we know are things people say, and those can be lies or mistakes.
Who the fuck said William had to have an intimate knowledge of the structure and workings of the Zane crime family enterprises? Are you saying that he was blind, deaf, and dumb for a decade and never noticed or suspected anything? ... and here is the stinker: why would he know about Joe's criminal enterprises growing up but not know or suspect a single thing about his own family?
You are explaining sweet FA, by the way... you are positing many things that are often contradictory or contrarian. When you say "people explaining shit," you seem to be referring only to yourself. Am I saying you're always wrong... definitely not! That doesn't mean you're always right, though. That's the nature of debate - to look at and interpret what the story presented so far and to speculate future pathways based upon that story.
I have a very large textual document where I pulled dialogues/conversations from the entire game and organized them by content/subject. That way, I was able to present evidence from multiple dialogues that the secret Katie held over William before he fled was a taboo kiss between them. Did you see the backlash I initially got over that? That's not pulling single lines from the script, as you accuse.