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Crashbullet

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Mortarion said:
Tell me.
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Make William Zane, and Katie and Leia adopted? Then there would be a reason why Willy couldn't sleep with them – to sell them to other families as virgins, but he fell in love, crossed that line and ran away, huh? How do you like that?
Much more sense huh? And there is sense in the tribunal, for spoiling the girl and the sense of Leia's hatred and the sense of returning to the FAMILY

Ps and also appeared meaning in that Ayua is Zane too
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Maccabbee said:
Well, judging by reviews of actual people that bought the game, he did good enough. It's just the loud minority that disagree.
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Art thou to yourself of that so sure? ;) Developers on Steam can let negative comments get scratched, several studios are infamous for that. Also it would be interesting how many reviews are from those player who are longtime fans. I doubt that among the longtime fans their reviews will be all that good.
 
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John972 said:
All that's missing are the six renders (named q5 to q10) showing Miru getting initimate with the Krayt guy. I think we have no context to those renders other than them likely only getting triggered by William agreeing in Ch 3 to Miru having fun with other men...
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Would also like to point out...facts...it's Q5. 6 to 10 are not 'missing' at all and are from when Gigachad fucks Miru in the apartment after Dana leaves.

jadepaladin said:
Btw, I have ~153 posts in this thread. With 2,335 posts, I don't even crack 10%.
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Slacker!
 
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Maccabbee said:
What I am doing is not stating my opinions, necessarily, but valid reasons that your arguments are just as much supposition and bullshit as any others. There are not enough facts in the game to make any conclusions. Comments from people in the game are not facts, they're statements, and could be wrong or lies. You think you know things, but are guessing, and a lot of your assumptions are just that: assumptions.
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Yes, characters can lie and characters can be under misapprehensions in the game .

That's why analyzing multiple dialogues between multiple characters is important. It's about looking for wider context.

For example, here are some conversations between characters about William and Leia's lineage and who might not want Leia to succeed:

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What is confirmed by those dialogues (and not simply character opinion):

- William and Leia's parents were clipped and the two children were spared.
- Helen/Dylan told young William/Leia some details about their real families, so they have a fundamental knowledge.
- Leia may carry the Zane name, but she remains a Pedersoli in some quarters. Leia thinks the Zane's want to keep her down. Scarlet says the Giuseppe's don't want Leia anywhere near the top. That strongly implies there is push-back on Leia running Joe's enterprises. Time will tell where that push-back is coming from and where the different factions stand on Leia's rise. Initial indications are that the Zanes-Aranos are supportive of Leia. That doesn't mean they don't have some ulterior motive and are using her.

Multiple conversations between characters about Leia's two main business ventures known to date:

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What is confirmed by those dialogues (and not simply character opinion):

-Leia took over Joe Arano's enterprises (drug lab and nightclub) while he's in prison. No other characters in the presence of Leia deny or contradict what she tells William.
-The FBI says Leia owns the nightclub and doesn't mention any ownership by Joey Arano. William believes Joe "gave gave her the place," but his meaning is unclear. Does he mean Joey gave Leia the nightclub to manage or gave her ownership?


PS - See edit in my reply to you in:

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-s1-ch-4-steam-oceanlab.19856/post-17545221

I was mistaken. The term "matriarch" is never used in the game.
 
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byaaahh said:
I probably post more in SG. Intertwined may be my most.

As you can tell, I post sporadically every few months.

Also, not counting posts deleted when defending the game against AlexFXR(?)
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Intertwined is my most. It's not even close to anything else either. I think WiaB is around 4th but not sure.
 
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byaaahh said:
Most of the whining isn't about incest. It's about changing the story into an incoherent mess.

We've literally explained that we would rather have a consistent story and lose some LIs, over the dishevelled mess we have now.
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Exactly!(y)
Either Ocean regrows his lost balls, man´s up and hopes he can finish WIAB and SG before SS or Steam might come down on him (if ever) and restores the incest so he can keep Kati, Leia, Helen and Co. love interests.
Or other option is restoring the Zane family unity and losing Kati, Leia, Helen, etc as love interests but have a coherent main storyline instead of the quirled rubbish he tries to feed us now.

I am for restoring the Zane family, filling out 80-90% of the existing plotholes and logic failures in one sweep, even if it means losing them as LIs. But that is 10 times better than the drek Ocean currently concocts!
 
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Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

NOTE: Here is the Steam update from 7-11-2025, he said more fixes "soon" but it's been a few days, so I'll go ahead and push this. I'll add a note on my compressed post when I have it updated, but it will be sometime later today, currently compressing another game and will take some time to do it. Also, I guess Ocean doesn't like version numbers either, as it just says: define build.name = "WiAB-Chapter4". So, since the update is titled fixes 1, guess I'll go with Fix 1.

Changelog:
- Fixed a few renders.
- Fixed a ton of spelling and grammar errors throughout the game. (More to come.)
- Rearranged some renders.

Previously, I added an outline to the text to make it easier to read.

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Turret said:
Exactly!(y)
Either Ocean regrows his lost balls, man´s up and hopes he can finish WIAB and SG before SS or Steam might come down on him (if ever) and restores the incest so he can keep Kati, Leia, Helen and Co. love interests.
Or other option is restoring the Zane family unity and losing Kati, Leia, Helen, etc as love interests but have a coherent main storyline instead of the quirled rubbish he tries to feed us now.

I am for restoring the Zane family, filling out 80-90% of the existing plotholes and logic failures in one sweep, even if it means losing them as LIs. But that is 10 times better than the drek Ocean currently concocts!
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I already offered my opinion on how I would have best handled dumping the incest and continuing without much interruption here.

Alas, not much we can do now that the mafia are involved...
 
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byaaahh said:
I already offered my opinion on how I would have best handled dumping the incest and continuing without much interruption here.
Alas, not much we can do now that the mafia are involved...
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I too already mentioned some ideas how to go on with WIAB and how to handle the cutting out of the "I"-theme.
I have to say it is very rare for me to be this pissed off by a game update here on F95. But Ocean succeeded in bringing out a clusterfuck of incoherent rubbish. So he have to cope with the heat, I normally do not critisie so harshly. But this time it is warranted and to be repeated.
Unlike some of the fappers white knighting here for the pretty pics, I was with WIAB for the storylines too.
 
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