VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 v2024-07-10 BETA] [CheekyGimp]

[WhiteyG]

You guys really make me smile (in a good way) at all the very serious thought you guys have regarding the plot. I can also say that several of you, especially put together, have all the pieces. I just hope that you still find it as interesting when things start to finally play out.

This game has been so much fun for so many reasons I can't see anyway that it won't remain that way all the way to the end. Unless Zarah comes flying in on a dragon and burns everyone to death because she couldn't get enough dick anymore. Nah that would still be interesting.

 

[Construct]

All the people having theories about who is the third person from the will and I‘m just sitting here and thinking that Debby and Lily better convince Katie to share (am I playing the wrong way or what?) or cutting of Monica, Jenna, Katie is the easiest decision ever. And if that also cuts out Debby and Lily, then my MC just becomes the manager of the next top models Cosmo Angel and Wanda.
And if that doesn‘t work out either, well... Jolina is hot and all and maybe sharing the beach house with her isn‘t too bad. Also wondering about that one girl MC met with Monica (Mabel?). Does she play any role or is she just temptation?
I count Bella out completely because after all these theories I expect her to be all like „Ha ha, sex was good, but now all your money is mine. Have a nice life“. Maybe she is open to sharing? The inheritance I mean? Either she is playing her part very well or she would actually like to ride of into the sunset with the MC. Probably only if the MC fully commits to her from the start.
I imagine the ending where the MC ends up with the money and no girls to end with a phone call to a lawyer, to setup up some weird will, just so the cycle continues

Anyway, I‘m done with the random thoughts I wanted to blurt out.

 

[felicemastronzo]

no, she wants the house. the money is secondary, and she only wants that to use it to take care of mc in the event he doesn't get his cut. she'd like him to move back home so she can housewife for him because that's her nature and what she wants in life. the only thing suspicious about elaine is how quickly and eagerly she started feeling up his abs but then it is a porn game.

the house certainly has to do with Elaine's conditions to be met for the will.

MC then the only problem he doesn't have is having a roof

 

[duningtwo]

the house certainly has to do with Elaine's conditions to be met for the will.

i didn't say it didn't. elaine states she wants the house, that it's her home, getting it either by weaseling out of her conditions via her own lawyers or by getting mc to promise to give it to her in the latest chapter if it goes to him. she also says she doesn't care about the money, but she does offer to take care of the mc with it should she get it and he not get his.

 

[felicemastronzo]

i didn't say it didn't. elaine states she wants the house, that it's her home, getting it either by weaseling out of her conditions via her own lawyers or by getting mc to promise to give it to her in the latest chapter if it goes to him. she also says she doesn't care about the money, but she does offer to take care of the mc with it should she get it and he not get his.

but if it really is linked to the will, that's why she wants to stay, all other reasons are secondary.

Then of course a nice house will come in handy in any case, of course it may also have a sentimental value (difficult to explain), but she wants it for the will, Elaine has never given up trying to get her share.

 

[duningtwo]

Elaine has never given up trying to get her share.

she only wants a share of her share (the house). she flat out told mc she won't abide by her condition of cutting ties with him, which seemingly pertains to the money portion, as your screenshot above seemingly pertains to the house portion, which has a separate condition of mc not living there by x date. elaine is the biggest red herring in a pond stocked with them, more guileless than monica.

 

[Kitchentable]

I am telling y'all, with the dev(s) saying it's not a harem game but
we got multiple threesome or possible future threesome, like
Monica and Zara, Jen and Jo, Debbie and Lilly or Angel and Wanda
there might aswell be a fire at the end and you'll only be able to safe two LIs!!



Ok, I apologize for that as some are still traumatized and I wanted to add something
on serious note.

In the japanes AVNs of old you usually could only unlock the harem ending
after having finished all the individual endings.

That would work great for WTHI in my opinon. Full fleshed out solo endings for
each for the characters. Then some threesome endings for characters like Debbi and Lilly,
or Monica and Zara, where it would make some sense and only after all of that
you could unlock a true harem ending.

And if not, well, the journey is the reward, right?

 

[draken99999]

I hope he finishes it soon, its gotten long (which is good and love the story) but have a hard time remembering it after so many months.

 

[zetsupetsu]

As someone who's on the full Elaine path and fully believe her to be genuine, I just want the opportunity for MC to say that the she can rest easy regarding the inheritance because I'd gladly leave Monica and the rest to go live with Elaine in the house and share the money with her. So she doesn't have to worry about anything and she can even not fulfill her conditions and it won't matter.

 

[felicemastronzo]

she only wants a share of her share (the house). she flat out told mc she won't abide by her condition of cutting ties with him, which seemingly pertains to the money portion, as your screenshot above seemingly pertains to the house portion, which has a separate condition of mc not living there by x date. elaine is the biggest red herring in a pond stocked with them, more guileless than monica.

Elaine has said very little that is clear, because to say at the same time that she has no intention of following the conditions, which would take her away from MC again, and that if MC should not inherit anything she will take care of giving him his share is quite contradictory.

And also when she asks him to leave her the house anyway, she is clearly referring to something she cannot tell him (Mc thinks about the conditions of the will, and I think so too, but it could be something else).

so Elaine by definition is not a red herring, she's an heiress like MC, who's working hard to get her share (following the will or not) what we don't know is if her benevolence towards him is really sincere. in my opinion there are no characters really antagonistic to MC, but it's my opinion not written in stone

then, I repeat, in Jenna's hacking we discover that the house has to do with the conditions of the will, she asks MC to have the house anyway and that she can't tell him everything, it doesn't seem to me that there is to make particularly elaborate deductions

 

[DA22]

Elaine has said very little that is clear, because to say at the same time that she has no intention of following the conditions, which would take her away from MC again, and that if MC should not inherit anything she will take care of giving him his share is quite contradictory.

And also when she asks him to leave her the house anyway, she is clearly referring to something she cannot tell him (Mc thinks about the conditions of the will, and I think so too, but it could be something else).

so Elaine by definition is not a red herring, she's an heiress like MC, who's working hard to get her share (following the will or not) what we don't know is if her benevolence towards him is really sincere. in my opinion there are no characters really antagonistic to MC, but it's my opinion not written in stone

then, I repeat, in Jenna's hacking we discover that the house has to do with the conditions of the will, she asks MC to have the house anyway and that she can't tell him everything, it doesn't seem to me that there is to make particularly elaborate deductions

Well it would take away a lot of the suspense and as such likely falls under plot armor, since devs want to keep her conditions a secret, but if she really trusted MC and would want her to make him trust her she would tell him her conditions or already told themto him even if just as an exchange of information where Mc tells her his conditions. Especially if both are aware the third person knows all conditions, that would make sense if there would be trust to diminish their own lack of information opposed to the third person.

So her not telling them him or at least offering an exchange of information, while we all understand on one hand the plot armor she is working under within game, it also does not put her in a way more trustable or trusting light when comes to MC. It at least leaves open the option she is fully prepared to fulfill her conditions of the will if she can not find a better option to get what she wants.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Well it would take away a lot of the suspense and as such likely falls under plot armor, since devs want to keep her conditions a secret, but if she really trusted MC and would want her to make him trust her she would tell him her conditions or already told them even if just as a exchange information where Mc tells her his conditions. Especially if both are aware the third person knows all conditions, that would make sense if there would be trust to diminish their own lack of information opposed to the third person.

So her not telling them him or at least offering an exchange of information while we all understand on one hand the plot armor she is working under within game it also does not put her in a way more trustable or trusting light when comes to MC.

In my opinion there are two separate aspects: the will and the relationship between the two.

Elaine may want to get her whole third of the inheritance regardless of how she feels about MC, everyone can benefit from money, and if she really wants to give a part of it to MC, in case the latter is left out of the will, she has to win it for herself first.

even if I consider her 100% sincere, the house is what she wants the most, but for sure she doesn't mind a bit of money to maintain it afterwards.

Mc doesn't reveal his conditions either, why should Elaine?

 

[DA22]

In my opinion there are two separate aspects: the will and the relationship between the two.

Elaine may want to get her whole third of the inheritance regardless of how she feels about MC, everyone can benefit from money, and if she really wants to give a part of it to MC, in case the latter is left out of the will, she has to win it for herself first.

even if I consider her 100% sincere, the house is what she wants the most, but for sure she doesn't mind a bit of money to maintain it afterwards.

Mc doesn't reveal his conditions either, why should Elaine?

Those two aspects can not be fully separated, especially if we are to believe that the turn around of Elaine was partly caused by reading that will condition and we are to assume from a remark that Elaine made that her fulfilling that condition would make MC hate her.

Considering Mc having to tell first, it was not MC that threw Elaine out of her house directly after Dad died and threatened to destroy her stuff after treating her as non-existent person for years.

A first move by Elaine would make all the sense in the world with her knowing their past and yeah that would not have to be an outright telling by her but just an offer to share their information. Even more if both now know the third party knows all conditions. Sure Mc could make that offer as well, but how many reasons does he have to truly trust Elaine, who is holding back a lot of info, amongst others what she is doing with lawyers and has only her word she is also doing it in his interest. Lack of trust of MC makes all the sense in the world.

 

[Hellkinglucifer]

Mc doesn't reveal his conditions either, why should Elaine?

It's not the MC who's been running after elaine to repair their relationship which she herself destroyed by supporting and abiding that monster he called father. What she did was vile and disgusting so why not reveal her condition as a show of faith if she really wants Mc to like her. In my opinion she is a bitch whose only here for the money(she was with the father for his money) and now the will has something to do with MC so she's being nice to him to get her money. If she can 'pretend' to be a bitch for all these years then she is clearly able to pretend to be nice.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Those two aspects can not be fully separated, especially if we are to believe that the turn around of Elaine was partly caused by reading that will condition and we are to assume from a remark that Elaine made that her fulfilling that condition would make MC hate her.

Considering Mc having to tell first, it was not MC that threw Elaine out of her house directly after Dad died and threatened to destroy her stuff after treating her as non-existent person for years.

A first move by Elaine would make all the sense in the world with her knowing their past and yeah that would not have to be an outright telling by her but just an offer to share their information. Even more if both now know the third party knows all conditions. Sure Mc could make that offer as well, but how many reasons does he have to truly trust Elaine, who is holding back a lot of info, amongst others what she is doing with lawyers and has only her word she is also doing it in his interest. Lack of trust of MC makes all the sense in the world.

She promised him that she will take care of him in case he doesn't get anything from the inheritance, doesn't that count as a first move?

Elaine can't erase the past, but it seems to me that in the present she is there ready to apologize and to take continual slaps and outbursts, without ever hiding, and then if she really wanted to cheat him she would do much sooner to tell him about the fake conditions than to hide the real ones.

 

[Hellkinglucifer]

She promised him that she will take care of him in case he doesn't get anything from the inheritance, doesn't that count as a first move?

Elaine can't erase the past, but it seems to me that in the present she is there ready to apologize and to take continual slaps and outbursts, without ever hiding, and then if she really wanted to cheat him she would do much sooner to tell him about the fake conditions than to hide the real ones.

A promise doesn't mean shit from a bitch like her, she was a bitch to him to get the father money so being nice to him to get her part of the inheritance is nothing for her. Given that the father loved to manipulate and destroy people i bet his conditions for elaine is to manipulate the mc into giving her the house willingly so she is being nice to him.

 

[DA22]

She promised him that she will take care of him in case he doesn't get anything from the inheritance, doesn't that count as a first move?

Elaine can't erase the past, but it seems to me that in the present she is there ready to apologize and to take continual slaps and outbursts, without ever hiding, and then if she really wanted to cheat him she would do much sooner to tell him about the fake conditions than to hide the real ones.

Like the person above me said out of a greater dislike for Elaine as I have, promises are just empty words until you deliver on them and I also said fact she keeps will conditions secret is also needed plot armor since devs are not prepared to reveal them to us players yet.

The ambiguity is there on purpose, Yes the conversion of Elaine might be genuine and she might indeed intend the best for him overall. Where her choices and loyalty might also be somewhat different in the end if MC is in a relation with her alone or not. (Remember Cheeky said that there would be one or two females that would be cheating MC on every route, that might also imply that some of the other females might do same and betray MC (maybe due to his own cheating) on the other paths depending on your relation with them.

That means that even sweet Jenna, Katie, Monica, probably especially Zarah if break some hearts she already warned you about and maybe even more might have your worst interest in mind depending on our choices. I suspect Elaine is one of the characters for whom that will play out pretty strongly and your choices as MC might make a big difference in the outcome of her actions.

 

[trolaro]

mega link is dead

 

[Gold613]

A promise doesn't mean shit from a bitch like her, she was a bitch to him to get the father money so being nice to him to get her part of the inheritance is nothing for her. Given that the father loved to manipulate and destroy people i bet his conditions for elaine is to manipulate the mc into giving her the house willingly so she is being nice to him.

Like the person above me said out of a greater dislike for Elaine as I have, promises are just empty words until you deliver on them and I also said fact she keeps will conditions secret is also needed plot armor since devs are not prepared to reveal them to us players yet.

The ambiguity is there on purpose, Yes the conversion of Elaine might be genuine and she might indeed intend the best for him overall. Where her choices and loyalty might also be somewhat different in the end if MC is in a relation with her alone or not. (Remember Cheeky said that there would be one or two females that would be cheating MC on every route, that might also imply that some of the other females might do same and betray MC

Either you two are blind by hate for Elaine that you 2 refuse to see all the hints in the game pointing out Elaine her sincerity or you both ignored it dead on when it was presented... multiple times.

Fortune Teller : Mother figure, kept apart by reasons of another, trying to make amends, has secret but cannot tell the MC. All that line is NOT about Monica it is about Elaine.

Bella+MC both have talked about Elaine her past character and how she was to the MC as a mother figure until his dad intervened on that and forced her to be cold towards him. She was in love with him or blinded by love by that man how or what no one knows. It has been also mentioned she is now acting more like she was before and trying to make amends. She made promises yes and promises only are worth something if they are kept, actions speak louder then words true. She is willing to go against everything to make sure the MC is set all she wants is the house.

The reason Elaine cannot mention or speak about all her condition is because she is barred from doing so. The Lawyer made it clear that some of the will holders have a clause in them that if they so much as talk about their conditions to other people or to other will holders their part becomes null and void. So she is not taking that risk. Even MC is not taking that risk.

The Fortune Teller and Lawyer have been key in absolving Elaine on so many levels that only blind hate for the character or genuine denial for those facts bars one from seeing that.

 

[CheekyGimp]

Similarly it would be prudent for the MC to get his own Lawyer. And anyone with at least some life experience that hears of his tituation (aka Monica) should tell him to do so. He could easily pay for it with the money he already got. But then this is still an adult game and not ace attorney. Reading an extensive dialog about inheritance laws will just have people complaining.

Unless you want to make that lawyer a hot milf ...

Agree - And this is planned.