VN Ren'Py Abandoned Wicked Choices: Agents of Karma [v0.1.75] [ASLPro3D]

[Talmadge]

I, for one, my brother are THANKFUL that you've only got second hand knowledge, I wouldn't wish this shit on anyone, to be honest.

I am still working on the game, slowly, but it has perhaps... honestly... been one of the things that has been keeping me going. Not going quite the way that I've wanted it too and certainly not as fast as I'd like it too... but definitely getting better at using Daz, with the lighting in it and the renders (even for the holiday stuff) is coming out nicely!

Still a bit slow in setting up scenes and stuff... but definitely getting much more capable at it!

I was actually thinking of tying to learn how to use Daz and Renpy and all that and try to make a game myself. I doubt it would do as good as your games has. And I'm only now slowly writing it out. I want to write it out first, then learn how to use the mechanics. Then try to save up the money to buy what I need to make it a reality. What I've looked at so far, I don't know if I have the mental where-with-all to do it.

 

[ASLPro3D]

Didn't get the ruler for mine, but I assume they were small enough that the could go through the "normal" way. Still hurt like hell, but the positive is that I know now some of the bad omen for this and if I see them, I drink like an elephant.

From one (former) coworker of mine, that had the chance: They both hurt like hell. He kidney stones once, the put in a catheter from the kindey direct to the urethra and often, if not always in the hospital he blacked out from pain as he was going to the toilet...

So, enough lurid tales out there and I'm very happy that I haven't had the need for an surgeon yet - sure not 100% true, but was years ago and something smaller and they could do it form the outside...

Also last but not least, I would say mule not horse.

Yeah, whenever I think that I am about to have them, I drink water with a little apple cider vinegar mixed in to help soften them up and they've given me a lot of Tamsulosin to help with the flow to get them out of me. So, I've been fortunate, only have had to have two kidney stones surgically removed from me.. all the rest pass a bit easier and with far less pain.

And, the wife agrees with you, I am more of a mule than a horse.

 

[ASLPro3D]

I was actually thinking of tying to learn how to use Daz and Renpy and all that and try to make a game myself. I doubt it would do as good as your games has. And I'm only now slowly writing it out. I want to write it out first, then learn how to use the mechanics. Then try to save up the money to buy what I need to make it a reality. What I've looked at so far, I don't know if I have the mental where-with-all to do it.

If you've got the time, the desire and really want to, I'd do it if I was you!

I've been lucky that all of you have liked my games and that you all have been patiently waiting as you have, I honestly didn't think people would like my story as much as you all have... and that, in and of itself, it the BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD!

I just didn't people would like or appreciate it, so don't write yourself out of trying, my friend... there is plenty of place in this world for a story from someone who wants to share one! Some have trouble creating or imagining their own, some of us who can would like to take a break in someone else's world so that we don't have to keep living in our own... and if you write out the story as you are saying you are... that doesn't mean you have to do the art and programming on your own, there are many talented people here that might step up and help you if you want and need it...

...bottom line is, you don't have to do everything and if you've a story to tell, tell it!

I will be one of the first one in line to give your story a shot!

 

[yltohawk]

Yeah, you'd think I was Tom Cruise with how broken this body of mine is... and damn it, I have done anything COOL like he has to be this broken (or get paid even close as he does to get broken)... I feel like I am the Super Dave Osbourne (not sure if anyone remembers or have heard of him) of Life.

My only hope in all of this is this...

...man, I really hope that the Physical Therapist is fucking cute.

My therapist's name was Candi and she had legs that went all the way up. She would wrap my legs due to my fluid retention .Leaning forward in her scrubs. HeHeHe.

 

[ASLPro3D]

My therapist's name was Candi and she had legs that went all the way up. She would wrap my legs due to my fluid retention .Leaning forward in her scrubs. HeHeHe.

Sounds to me something that would make for a very good scene for when players play as Brent and has to spend time with his physical therapist in the game...

 

[ASLPro3D]

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Christmas 2024 Wishes and Gifts!
(sort of as posted on our Patreon Page's Paywall)

The wife and I, along with the rest of our staff (Epadder & Sierra3), would like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

We sincerely appreciate all of you, our fans and followers, as well as thank you for all of the wonder blessing you’ve bestowed on us this year; from your faithful following, your kind interaction with us, your generous support (despite my health issues), your sharing of our artwork for our game, our characters and their interesting backstories as well as, liking it and commenting on it.

We’ll be continuing with the introduction of the characters you’ll get to experience in our upcoming game “Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers”, at least till the New Year and I begin physical therapy, so we hope that you will continue to follow and support us.

Thank you again, so much and we wish you, your families and loved ones the happiest of holidays and send our love and thoughts your way!

Sincerely,

Jack, the Wife, Epadder and Sierra3 and all of the wonderful support staff (from voice actors, musicians and our beta testers) that make up ASLPro3D, thank you!

P.S.: We had been running a Holiday Character Spotlight series each day on many of the characters that you'll meet in our upcoming game "Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers" on our X page and behind our Patreon Paywall (due to Patreon's TOS) and like to share it all here with all of you. We'll be continuing it tomorrow (as it is easy for me to work an hour or two with this arm than 8 to 12 hours) and will add them to this thread when able!

Enjoy and Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!!

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[ASLPro3D]

Holiday Spotlighting Continued...

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[jaw1986baby]

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Christmas 2024 Wishes and Gifts!
(sort of as posted on our Patreon Page's Paywall)

The wife and I, along with the rest of our staff (Epadder & Sierra3), would like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

We sincerely appreciate all of you, our fans and followers, as well as thank you for all of the wonder blessing you’ve bestowed on us this year; from your faithful following, your kind interaction with us, your generous support (despite my health issues), your sharing of our artwork for our game, our characters and their interesting backstories as well as, liking it and commenting on it.

We’ll be continuing with the introduction of the characters you’ll get to experience in our upcoming game “Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers”, at least till the New Year and I begin physical therapy, so we hope that you will continue to follow and support us.

Thank you again, so much and we wish you, your families and loved ones the happiest of holidays and send our love and thoughts your way!

Sincerely,

Jack, the Wife, Epadder and Sierra3 and all of the wonderful support staff (from voice actors, musicians and our beta testers) that make up ASLPro3D, thank you!

P.S.: We had been running a Holiday Character Spotlight series each day on many of the characters that you'll meet in our upcoming game "Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers" on our X page and behind our Patreon Paywall (due to Patreon's TOS) and like to share it all here with all of you. We'll be continuing it tomorrow (as it is easy for me to work an hour or two with this arm than 8 to 12 hours) and will add them to this thread when able!

Enjoy and Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!!

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Can we keep those redhead twins exclusively for the Anti-Christ?
2000 guys can fuck every other woman in your game if I can keep those 2 sweeties "clean" for him.
This is super important to me, please give me a hint.

 

[ASLPro3D]

I know that certain flags will need to be activated to get to Kealan & Kacee and then you will have to undergo a few challenges of theirs (by helping them) to unlock a romance option with the twin brother and sister at which point you can decide whether or not you want to romance both or just one of them of your choice.

When it comes to playing as the Antichrist dealing with his brother-in-law (which happens at the same time as Brent and Carley), there may be a chance in which to interact with the twins as the Antichrist and if the flag/challenges that weren't unlocked or done as Brent & Carley (in Bed Chambers main save file) they can then be done by the Antichrist instead.

There will be issues in the 3 games (Bed Chambers, Agents of Karma & Book 2) where if certain events weren't unlocked in one game, they can be unlocked in the other two games... but there will also be some events that won't crossover into the other games, so if you miss them in say Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers, those events never get solved or unlocked.

I'm doing it that way because that is the way that life works... you and someone else could go to all of the same places on the same day, but you may interact with someone that the other doesn't... or, by you interacting with them and occupying their time, the other one can't.

I CAN and WILL tell you that you'll be able to tell what some of those times are if you pay close attention and may see one of the MAIN CHARACTERS from the other games (Brent, Carley, Emi, Claire, William/Billy, Antichrist or Lynara) in the scene as well... sometimes you will be able to choose to INTERACT with the other MAIN CHARACTERS if an event with those other characters are available as well...

In short, you may have to decide what event that you want to pursue as a particular MC in each game if you want to unlock that event (if available) as a different MC in one of the other games and play it out that way... but SOME of the events and those characters will ONLY be available in one particular game.

In other words, not everyone you meet in "Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers" will be available in the other games. Same with some of the characters you'll meet in "Wicked Choices: Agents of Karma" or in "Wicked Choices: Book Two" will only be EXCLUSIVE characters to that game and that game only.

So, just because you meet a hot looking character in one game doesn't mean that the Antichrist will be able to add them to their harem... because he may never ever meet them. But since Caitlin and her family is in close proximity to the BAD GUY in all three games (William Crawford Jr.), I can tell you that the Antichrist will have some involvement with her and her family.

 

[jaw1986baby]

I know that certain flags will need to be activated to get to Kealan & Kacee and then you will have to undergo a few challenges of theirs (by helping them) to unlock a romance option with the twin brother and sister at which point you can decide whether or not you want to romance both or just one of them of your choice.

When it comes to playing as the Antichrist dealing with his brother-in-law (which happens at the same time as Brent and Carley), there may be a chance in which to interact with the twins as the Antichrist and if the flag/challenges that weren't unlocked or done as Brent & Carley (in Bed Chambers main save file) they can then be done by the Antichrist instead.

There will be issues in the 3 games (Bed Chambers, Agents of Karma & Book 2) where if certain events weren't unlocked in one game, they can be unlocked in the other two games... but there will also be some events that won't crossover into the other games, so if you miss them in say Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers, those events never get solved or unlocked.

I'm doing it that way because that is the way that life works... you and someone else could go to all of the same places on the same day, but you may interact with someone that the other doesn't... or, by you interacting with them and occupying their time, the other one can't.

I CAN and WILL tell you that you'll be able to tell what some of those times are if you pay close attention and may see one of the MAIN CHARACTERS from the other games (Brent, Carley, Emi, Claire, William/Billy, Antichrist or Lynara) in the scene as well... sometimes you will be able to choose to INTERACT with the other MAIN CHARACTERS if an event with those other characters are available as well...

In short, you may have to decide what event that you want to pursue as a particular MC in each game if you want to unlock that event (if available) as a different MC in one of the other games and play it out that way... but SOME of the events and those characters will ONLY be available in one particular game.

In other words, not everyone you meet in "Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers" will be available in the other games. Same with some of the characters you'll meet in "Wicked Choices: Agents of Karma" or in "Wicked Choices: Book Two" will only be EXCLUSIVE characters to that game and that game only.

So, just because you meet a hot looking character in one game doesn't mean that the Antichrist will be able to add them to their harem... because he may never ever meet them. But since Caitlin and her family is in close proximity to the BAD GUY in all three games (William Crawford Jr.), I can tell you that the Antichrist will have some involvement with her and her family.

OK because so far the AC daughters and now the redhead girl twin (I did not realize one was male immediately) are the only girls I want for him absolutely. He can share others or they can do their own thing or whatever the story brings, but those girls are like non-negotiable so to speak. For me.

I am approaching any entry in this collection as the one "true" MC is the Anti-Christ.

 

[ASLPro3D]

OK because so far the AC daughters and now the redhead girl twin (I did not realize one was male immediately) are the only girls I want for him absolutely. He can share others or they can do their own thing or whatever the story brings, but those girls are like non-negotiable so to speak. For me.

I am approaching any entry in this collection as the one "true" MC is the Anti-Christ.

I can't make any promises and a lot of it will be up to you and your choices/play style.

As for HERO, I agree... the main hero in the story is the Antichrist... but a GOOD hero is never alone in the work that he does and everyone plays a part.

Master Chief has Cortona
Luke has Leia, Han, Chewie, C3-P0 & RTD2
Ethan Hunt has his crew
James Bond has M
Dominic Toretto has Brian, Letty and others
Jesus had his 12 disciples

Every hero has a support group that helps in the hero to complete his mission... for the Antichrist it is Lynara, Syrina, Brent & Carley Chambers, Emiko, Claire and maybe even William/Billie... their stories and the things they do are important or the Antichrist won't be able to do what he needs to do... so, those stories need to be told.

 

[ASLPro3D]

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UPDATE: It's a NEW YEAR!!!
(As posted on our Patreon Page)

Happy New Year Everyone!

I know, for a lot of us, the change of a calendar year doesn’t really do much to change the world in which we live in to something different as well.

Most times, many of us are left with the same stressful issues, concerns and carry across with us the mayhem from the last year into the new one, like some ball and chain or hyperactive, ankle biting dog, that refuses to let go of our pant’s leg as we cross the yearly calendar threshold.

In many cases, we are reminded that the world is just as crazy as the year had left it, just as dangerous, desperate and equal parts annoying…

Yet, we still try to look for some bright spot in it all.

In my case, the corridor between Christmas and the New Year brought with it two gifts that I hadn’t asked for and very much didn’t want… a kidney stone (likely caused by all of the painkillers that I’ve been on and sitting on heating pads to keep the back warm and not hurt) and a really nice flu… compliments of hanging out with my nieces and nephew during Christmas day.

Thankfully, New Years Eve had me getting rid of not ONE but TWO kidney stones, before the calendar year changed and my flu seems to be lessening some and I can talk to others without sounding like a cross between Mister Rogers and Clint Eastwood… so, there’s that.

This New Year and first month of it will bring for my 6 long weeks of physical torture that will unfreeze my shoulder from Adhesive Capsulitis and, God willing, be an end to the sheer levels of discomfort and intense pain caused by such simple actions as trying to wash my hair or even wiping my ass… God willing.

If not, it will set me up with Arthroscopic surgery that will repair the SLAP tear, followed with two weeks of healing and an additional four to six weeks of more physical torture…

…but… an end is in sight for me and we can get back to finishing up this incredible sized Prologue to “Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers” and get on a steady release cycle and get back to continuing the story of the Antichrist, enjoy the lovely company of our lovely little FAP, meet new characters… romance them, as well as, return to some of the familiar ones and maybe romance them as well.

Bottom line is… though this New Year hasn’t started at all like a NEW ONE, I am sure as hell going to try and treat it as if it is one, so I can get back to do what I love to do… tell exciting, interactive stories in a well crafted game with plenty of choices for players and make some more noise in the AVN Industry that I love so much and hang out with all of you.

I wish this New Year brings all of us great joy and fun and the staff and I wish YOU and YOUR LOVED ONES a Happy New Year and, as always, appreciate your continued support, friendship and love.

~Jack and the Wife and staff of ASLPro3D.

 

[Maviarab]

Appreciate the update Jack.

 

[Nulldev]

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UPDATE: It's a NEW YEAR!!!
(As posted on our Patreon Page)

Happy New Year Everyone!

I know, for a lot of us, the change of a calendar year doesn’t really do much to change the world in which we live in to something different as well.

Most times, many of us are left with the same stressful issues, concerns and carry across with us the mayhem from the last year into the new one, like some ball and chain or hyperactive, ankle biting dog, that refuses to let go of our pant’s leg as we cross the yearly calendar threshold.

In many cases, we are reminded that the world is just as crazy as the year had left it, just as dangerous, desperate and equal parts annoying…

Yet, we still try to look for some bright spot in it all.

In my case, the corridor between Christmas and the New Year brought with it two gifts that I hadn’t asked for and very much didn’t want… a kidney stone (likely caused by all of the painkillers that I’ve been on and sitting on heating pads to keep the back warm and not hurt) and a really nice flu… compliments of hanging out with my nieces and nephew during Christmas day.

Thankfully, New Years Eve had me getting rid of not ONE but TWO kidney stones, before the calendar year changed and my flu seems to be lessening some and I can talk to others without sounding like a cross between Mister Rogers and Clint Eastwood… so, there’s that.

This New Year and first month of it will bring for my 6 long weeks of physical torture that will unfreeze my shoulder from Adhesive Capsulitis and, God willing, be an end to the sheer levels of discomfort and intense pain caused by such simple actions as trying to wash my hair or even wiping my ass… God willing.

If not, it will set me up with Arthroscopic surgery that will repair the SLAP tear, followed with two weeks of healing and an additional four to six weeks of more physical torture…

…but… an end is in sight for me and we can get back to finishing up this incredible sized Prologue to “Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers” and get on a steady release cycle and get back to continuing the story of the Antichrist, enjoy the lovely company of our lovely little FAP, meet new characters… romance them, as well as, return to some of the familiar ones and maybe romance them as well.

Bottom line is… though this New Year hasn’t started at all like a NEW ONE, I am sure as hell going to try and treat it as if it is one, so I can get back to do what I love to do… tell exciting, interactive stories in a well crafted game with plenty of choices for players and make some more noise in the AVN Industry that I love so much and hang out with all of you.

I wish this New Year brings all of us great joy and fun and the staff and I wish YOU and YOUR LOVED ONES a Happy New Year and, as always, appreciate your continued support, friendship and love.

~Jack and the Wife and staff of ASLPro3D.

Sounds like that body has some mileage in it, why don't you buy a Cyberdyne T-800 and upload yourself?

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

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UPDATE: It's a NEW YEAR!!!
(As posted on our Patreon Page)

Happy New Year Everyone!

I know, for a lot of us, the change of a calendar year doesn’t really do much to change the world in which we live in to something different as well.

Most times, many of us are left with the same stressful issues, concerns and carry across with us the mayhem from the last year into the new one, like some ball and chain or hyperactive, ankle biting dog, that refuses to let go of our pant’s leg as we cross the yearly calendar threshold.

In many cases, we are reminded that the world is just as crazy as the year had left it, just as dangerous, desperate and equal parts annoying…

Yet, we still try to look for some bright spot in it all.

In my case, the corridor between Christmas and the New Year brought with it two gifts that I hadn’t asked for and very much didn’t want… a kidney stone (likely caused by all of the painkillers that I’ve been on and sitting on heating pads to keep the back warm and not hurt) and a really nice flu… compliments of hanging out with my nieces and nephew during Christmas day.

Thankfully, New Years Eve had me getting rid of not ONE but TWO kidney stones, before the calendar year changed and my flu seems to be lessening some and I can talk to others without sounding like a cross between Mister Rogers and Clint Eastwood… so, there’s that.

This New Year and first month of it will bring for my 6 long weeks of physical torture that will unfreeze my shoulder from Adhesive Capsulitis and, God willing, be an end to the sheer levels of discomfort and intense pain caused by such simple actions as trying to wash my hair or even wiping my ass… God willing.

If not, it will set me up with Arthroscopic surgery that will repair the SLAP tear, followed with two weeks of healing and an additional four to six weeks of more physical torture…

…but… an end is in sight for me and we can get back to finishing up this incredible sized Prologue to “Wicked Choices: Bed Chambers” and get on a steady release cycle and get back to continuing the story of the Antichrist, enjoy the lovely company of our lovely little FAP, meet new characters… romance them, as well as, return to some of the familiar ones and maybe romance them as well.

Bottom line is… though this New Year hasn’t started at all like a NEW ONE, I am sure as hell going to try and treat it as if it is one, so I can get back to do what I love to do… tell exciting, interactive stories in a well crafted game with plenty of choices for players and make some more noise in the AVN Industry that I love so much and hang out with all of you.

I wish this New Year brings all of us great joy and fun and the staff and I wish YOU and YOUR LOVED ONES a Happy New Year and, as always, appreciate your continued support, friendship and love.

~Jack and the Wife and staff of ASLPro3D.

Ok I am back home. I shit you not, when I read your post I was in the hospital for experiencing intense pain in my nut and kidney turns out I have two kidney stone. The bigger one got stuck in the kidney (9mm) it was the one causing the pain. I can't imagine what it was like to deal with those with your preexisting condition. I am otherwise in great physical shape and I was almost pukeing from the pain. Hope you managed to deal with it in a way that was as painless as possible.

 

[ASLPro3D]

Sounds like that body has some mileage in it, why don't you buy a Cyberdyne T-800 and upload yourself?

I so would! Hell, I am waiting for Elon Musk to advertise that he's been making them, so I can throw my name in the hat to be one of the first... hell, at this point, I'd even be willing to be Alex Murphy!!

"Dead or Alive, this game will be made."

 

[ASLPro3D]

Ok I am back home. I shit you not, when I read your post I was in the hospital for experiencing intense pain in my nut and kidney turns out I have two kidney stone. The bigger one got stuck in the kidney (9mm) it was the one causing the pain. I can't imagine what it was like to deal with those with your preexisting condition. I am otherwise in great physical shape and I was almost pukeing from the pain. Hope you managed to deal with it in a way that was as painless as possible.

My sincerest condolences and hope that you are now free of them. They'll probably have you go back in in a couple of weeks to remove the stents they put in if you had them surgically removed... I will tell you, it is an uncomfortable experience to have them taken out... buy Azo... seriously, buy Azo.

But, yeah, the lower pain... the feeling like you got to puke and crap yourself... fun times (not)!

For me, thankfully, the first one wasn't so big... the second was about the size of a half a pea... and that, yeah shocked me when it came out, not long after passing the first one.

I have pretty good pain meds, so I was covered in the pain department... still felt like puking, still felt like someone kicked in the balls and the feeling like my prostate had swelled up to the size of a grapefruit, but the painkillers dulled a lot of it... strange, if you think about it, I get them because of my painkillers weakening my kidneys, but have to take them because of my arm, neck, back and the kidney stones that the painkillers create.

Vicious cycle of Hell.

Feel better, my friend... a small pillowcase filled with DRY rice and heated in the microwave for around 2-3 minutes and rested on the groin will help, trust me on that... get some rest and here's to a better year!

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

My sincerest condolences and hope that you are now free of them. They'll probably have you go back in in a couple of weeks to remove the stents they put in if you had them surgically removed... I will tell you, it is an uncomfortable experience to have them taken out... buy Azo... seriously, buy Azo.

But, yeah, the lower pain... the feeling like you got to puke and crap yourself... fun times (not)!

For me, thankfully, the first one wasn't so big... the second was about the size of a half a pea... and that, yeah shocked me when it came out, not long after passing the first one.

I have pretty good pain meds, so I was covered in the pain department... still felt like puking, still felt like someone kicked in the balls and the feeling like my prostate had swelled up to the size of a grapefruit, but the painkillers dulled a lot of it... strange, if you think about it, I get them because of my painkillers weakening my kidneys, but have to take them because of my arm, neck, back and the kidney stones that the painkillers create.

Vicious cycle of Hell.

Feel better, my friend... a small pillowcase filled with DRY rice and heated in the microwave for around 2-3 minutes and rested on the groin will help, trust me on that... get some rest and here's to a better year!

Ho they are still there. The bigger one the doc said could not get out by itself so prescribed me an urgent appointment with the urologue. The smaller one could get out though. I'll have to discuss how to remove them with the specialist then. the doc told me I could get an other incident at any moment. Got meds to dilate my canals to allow for easier passage for the stones but there are no guaranty they will pass. The other med is morphine in case a stone get stuck.

Thanks a lot for the kind words and the tips. I will definitely find some azo if they get out naturally. No sense in supporting pain and discomfort that could easily be avoided.

 

[ASLPro3D]

Ho they are still there. The bigger one the doc said could not get out by itself so prescribed me an urgent appointment with the urologue. The smaller one could get out though. I'll have to discuss how to remove them with the specialist then. the doc told me I could get an other incident at any moment. Got meds to dilate my canals to allow for easier passage for the stones but there are no guaranty they will pass. The other med is morphine in case a stone get stuck.

Thanks a lot for the kind words and the tips. I will definitely find some azo if they get out naturally. No sense in supporting pain and discomfort that could easily be avoided.

Azo will help even if they haven't come out, they will get rid of the burning, itchy feeling like you still have to piss after your just did... very helpful to have and you'll need it when they do take stents out too.

They will likely have a urologist (if they think you can't get the 9mm one out on your own) know you out, go through the penis up to the kidney, cut it into smaller pieces and then remove them with a little claw like thing... putting stents in to keep it open.

They'll also keep you on Flomax (Tamsulosin) or something like that to keep the dilation for easy flow... my first experience with all of this was with a 14mm on... the morphine helps.

 

[c3p0]

Azo will help even if they haven't come out, they will get rid of the burning, itchy feeling like you still have to piss after your just did... very helpful to have and you'll need it when they do take stents out too.

They will likely have a urologist (if they think you can't get the 9mm one out on your own) know you out, go through the penis up to the kidney, cut it into smaller pieces and then remove them with a little claw like thing... putting stents in to keep it open.

They'll also keep you on Flomax (Tamsulosin) or something like that to keep the dilation for easy flow... my first experience with all of this was with a 14mm on... the morphine helps.

Seriously are we in stone age?
I had one going down from my kidney just this week, tortured me for 3 or 4 hours. The usual: no position is good some better, some worse, multiple walks to toilet only already knowing that it doesn't really help at all...
I assume, this devil is now waiting for the 2nd part of the journey in my bladder. I don't know, if I want to know if I'm right or not...