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No worries will stop bothering you about history after this last remark El Bacca and ASLPRO. Fact that Celts and Germanic/Norse tribes had no written history in those times, does not mean they had no culture or civilization. Unfortunately it does mean we are mostly left with the Roman propaganda when it comes to written texts. Now complete weirdly and inexplicably the Romans had a higher opinion of themselves as of their enemies. :biggrin:

Fun fact is that the Thing in the Norse/Germanic cultures was a further developed form of democracy as what the Greek city states had actually. :)
Naw, it's all good, you guys might end up giving me ideas! :D So don't you dare stop!! x'D
 

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Who knows with ancient history dudes. The Romans weren't all that inventive. They were pretty good at stealing ideas from everybody else and making them pretty effective. That statement will probably start a pile of arguments like my next one and that is that philosophically we haven't really advanced much if any on what the Ancient Greeks left. Heck during the European Dark Ages well Europe was pretty backward in relation to those Ancient Greeks and who knows where they got their ideas. Monotheistic Religions "One God Cults" for one are a comparatively recent development in human history or so it seems to me.

European Neolithic peoples seemed to be more advanced and way more advanced in Astronomy for one until those dudes Galileo and Copernicus appeared????

P.S My Gran used to leave saucers of honeyed water out for the Little People as she called them. She did that right up until she passed away in the 1980's.
I would agree with this.

We are technologically more advanced, but we are no smarter... in fact, I think with the technology our race is further declining. Even more alarming is the fact that the technological boom that we saw in my generation has seemed to come to a screeching halt... and, while there are some advances (minor), this generation seems more apt to accept versions of the shame shit, with very little advancement in the actual product (iPhone for example)...

I really don't see this current generation of kids doing anything of 'note'... many seem to be mindless zombies, absorbed in the tech around them and not really reaching for more... they want it handed to them; as such, welcome back to the age of Rome.
 
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I love education!! So don't stop!! Where else am I going to have such meaningful, scholastic conversations... sure as fuck not on Facebook!! x'Dx'Dx'D
No worries, when we have a topic that lends to it we will certainly come back with some historic speculation. Since parts of the story are based upon events that happened a few thousand years ago. i guess there will be room some day to elaborate a bit on what i mean that some people were kinda influential in selecting what books/stories made it in into the bible, the many early Christian sects that had serious infighting between them and such. Early Christianity was way less uniform as most people seem to suppose. :biggrin: Even with all the denominations we have nowadays, it is actually way less pluriform and bloody in our current age as in the early start.

You could even possibly use it as some historic reference to Demonothans trying to diminish impact or effect of the weapon the Angelions created against them, by perverting or adjusting the true faith to hurt them less and actions of Angelions to keep their weapon pure and effective. :evilsmile:
 
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@ASLPro3D several pages back you mentioned a resource 'the Infernal Dictionary' with comparisons to the Goetia got me wondering. Found it, neat but since I do not spend near the time I once did studing that realm I probably won't add it to the library real soon. Other than to keep an eye out for other potential characters. :p I will add, that I am glad that you did not go Enochian as some of those names were shall we say god-awful.
Also, after deliberation on not to large a scale, I would have to agree that The Thing comes in second. Though, Big trouble was the one that introduced me to him and therefore holds a special place with me. Prince of Darkness was fun(but lil brother from Simon and Simon with porn mustasche EEK) and Ghosts of Mars was a fun one with Natasha being all but pulled from mothballs. Damn I ramble.
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That infighting did lead to some interesting times. Of what was left out of the story(that I learned of) I think those that were in then out(sometime multple times or with revisions) were some the most interesting stories.

Ugh, am lacking caffeine...
 

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Couple additional musings:

- Syrina's father (or 'father') was alive in 162 BC (BCE).

- First Anti-Christ was known of by 18 AD at the latest (approximate time when Syrina was 'frozen' in stone form) and was female.
 
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Many were named the AntiChrist over times, most notably Caesar, Caligula, Napoleon, Hitler and quite a few others:evilsmile:. Think propaganda at least played a part in those trying to appoint them as such though. :biggrin:

I suspect most likely you will have to look for the father of Syrina under the followers of the old polytheistic pantheons, Mother Goddess cults or cult of Bacchus likely. Though could of course be some Roman or other general/ruler of the time. Unlikely to have been someone high-up in the Jewish faith or government or someone like Solomon. (Of course ASLPRO could prove me wrong since according to some legends and stories Solomon had power over demons).:cool:
 
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Many were named the AntiChrist over times, most notably Caesar, Caligula, Napoleon, Hitler and quite a few others:evilsmile:. Think propaganda at least played a part in those trying to appoint them as such though. :biggrin:
How dare you accuse them of propaganda! They were only relaying the facts as they knew them. Wow, almost got that out with a straight face, sheesh.
Yeah, depending on the version you heard, good ol' Solly (sorry a game referred to him that way and it stuck) either had an artifact(ring) or surrounded himself with wicce (wisemen/magi) and practiced as well. That is the basis to Goetia/Lesser Key. Our western mysteries are ripe with old names having these gifts/skills, in box around here(gotta get my library back together*sigh*) I even have the 6th & 7th books of Moses which are little more than incantations and rituals. Funny, neither of these are near as verbose as the pentateuch which he supposedly wrote.
 
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@ASLPro3D several pages back you mentioned a resource 'the Infernal Dictionary' with comparisons to the Goetia got me wondering. Found it, neat but since I do not spend near the time I once did studing that realm I probably won't add it to the library real soon. Other than to keep an eye out for other potential characters. :p I will add, that I am glad that you did not go Enochian as some of those names were shall we say god-awful.
Also, after deliberation on not to large a scale, I would have to agree that The Thing comes in second. Though, Big trouble was the one that introduced me to him and therefore holds a special place with me. Prince of Darkness was fun(but lil brother from Simon and Simon with porn mustasche EEK) and Ghosts of Mars was a fun one with Natasha being all but pulled from mothballs. Damn I ramble.
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That infighting did lead to some interesting times. Of what was left out of the story(that I learned of) I think those that were in then out(sometime multple times or with revisions) were some the most interesting stories.

Ugh, am lacking caffeine...
Yeah, one can't count out Big Trouble in China, so that would be 3rd place (at least for me)... man, some good matinee times they made back in the day... miss those days. :relievedface:

As for the names, uh-huh, some of those names... woof, yeah, I'd rather make up my own names or make them similar than use some of them. ;)
 

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Hahahaha if needed you can always loan a few names from history and myths and slightly change them.:biggrin:
 
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Couple additional musings:

- Syrina's father (or 'father') was alive in 162 BC (BCE).

- First Anti-Christ was known of by 18 AD at the latest (approximate time when Syrina was 'frozen' in stone form) and was female.
Many were named the AntiChrist over times, most notably Caesar, Caligula, Napoleon, Hitler and quite a few others:evilsmile:. Think propaganda at least played a part in those trying to appoint them as such though. :biggrin:

I suspect most likely you will have to look for the father of Syrina under the followers of the old polytheistic pantheons, Mother Goddess cults or cult of Bacchus likely. Though could of course be some Roman or other general/ruler of the time. Unlikely to have been someone high-up in the Jewish faith or government or someone like Solomon. (Of course ASLPRO could prove me wrong since according to some legends and stories Solomon had power over demons).:cool:
Erm... you all might be over thinking some things too much, not a bad thing, though, mind you. Also, math is NOT my strongest suit, so I might've messed up just a tich at Syrina's age... then again, maybe not... guess we'll know for sure when it comes time to reveal that...

...BUT... what I can say is that even Syrina doesn't know her linage... ;)
 

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Pretty sure Sierra will correct you if you were wrong :biggrin: Still nice we will be able to help Syrina to learn something about her past and why do i have a suspicion that ring that MC is wearing at a strange place in your renders has something to do with why they make a great team? Looking forward to those revelations, even if it will be a while still.

Just like it will be interesting to see what the Crawfords exactly are and why they have a bigger role to play. Do they somehow descent from Demonothans distantly, are they a human family of sensitives, since you said the power was transferred by genes and/or old demon worshippers from ancient past that were given some powers by the Demonothans? Will they be from a historically known family of which we would know the name if their ancient ancestors were revealed? So many questions and so much impatience to see them all revealed in near or more distant future. :biggrin:

Also fun fact, one of the most mentioned as the Anti-Christ over time is likely the Popal office and every holder of that title even going back to Peter.:p
 
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Hahahaha if needed you can always loan a few names from history and myths and slightly change them.:biggrin:
Oooo... you mean like: Gozer, also known as Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Gozer the Traveler, Volguus Zildrohar and Lord of the Sebouillia??? x'D
 
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For example, but so many names were made up, Gog and Magog for example, Nethart, Freya and so on:) Not even starting on the many Asian, African and American Mythologies.:biggrin: Or older Mesoptamian that you lent Lilith of, though according to some legends she was also the first wife of Adam.:p If remember right the first one god religion originated in that part of the world.

Edit: Still i am afraid of no ghost buster:) nice one Jack:biggrin:

Some more info:biggrin: @ASLPro3D

Dan Aykroyd says: "Gozer is based on several things. For one, there's a Gozer Chevrolet dealership in upstate New York. A little more to the point, though, is the fact that Gozer was a name that related to a documented haunting in England -- the one Poltergeist was based on, in fact. During this particular haunting, the name Gozer appeared mysteriously throughout the house, written on walls and things. So we figured we might as well take something that had been reported in the public domain as an actual occurrence and use it in the film as our main demon and supernatural force."

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The story Ackroyd was referencing is the Enfield Poltergeist, as recorded in (1980).

Gozer also means guy in Dutch, though that translation misses some connotations as often the case with direct translations.
 
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Pretty sure Sierra will correct you if you were wrong :biggrin: Still nice we will be able to help Syrina to learn something about her past and why do i have a suspicion that ring that MC is wearing at a strange place in your renders has something to do with why they make a great team? Looking forward to those revelations, even if it will be a while still.

Just like it will be interesting to see what the Crawfords exactly are and why they have a bigger role to play. Do they somehow descent from Demonothans distantly, are they a human family of sensitives, since you said the power was transferred by genes and/or old demon worshippers from ancient past that were given some powers by the Demonothans? Will they be from a historically known family of which we would know the name if their ancient ancestors were revealed? So many questions and so much impatience to see them all revealed in near or more distant future. :biggrin:

Also fun fact, one of the most mentioned as the Anti-Christ over time is likely the Popal office and every holder of that title even going back to Peter.:p
Oh god, yes... so much to tell and reveal in the coming months/year... but I can honestly tell you, I can't wait to get to the side arc to just take a break from the game some.

May's release is totally kicking my ass... worked till 1:30am here, went to bed, got up at 5:10am and jumped back into it... in fact, I will be going "dark" for the rest of the week as I try to finish up all of the renders... when all is said and done, it will be over 120 to maybe 200 renders for this release... I sort of bit off and promised a bit more than I had intended, but will make it.

But I am figuring that June's release will be Chapter 5 part 1, July will be Chapter 5 part 2 and August will be Chapter 6... and then DONE with Book One of Wicked Choices...

...I will then switch to William's "side arc" story and finish out the year doing that... using sprites and new, faster techniques and some programming stuff that @Palanto Games has been working on behind the scenes and then shift from that to Book Two of Wicked Choices...

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...provided this damn chapter end doesn't kill me first. :tiredface::'(
 

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Not wise to kill yourself over a game or story. If you need some more time, take it and just be upfront about it, people need their sleep and June will be hectic enough likely. Yeah can imagine a month of vacation would be nice or something else that can get the juiced flowing would be a good thing. We have an old saying in Dutch: De laatste loodjes wegen het zwaarst. (The last leads weigh heaviest). So good luck this week and do make sure you get at least 6 hours of shut-eye and some relaxation.
 

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Syrina is 2,180 years old (as of 2018). Her father would have been from either Harappa (low probability), Egypt (Middle Kingdom, possible), or Minoan (Crete, highest probability in my opinion, Philistines/Caphtorites; Possibly Abimelech).
The possibilites are endless. for example Sarmaugh would be a good fit, or if you want to go cultish, from the same period Ainina and Danina.
P.S. I can't beleieve the number of people in this forum that share my same weird interests and have a junkyard of useless facts in their minds like I do.
 
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