Fuchsschweif

Well-Known Member
Sep 24, 2019
1,117
1,822
company that survived for that long wouldn't go under with a single flop unless something was already wrong beforehand.
That's wrong. Revenue from 30 years ago doesn't exist in a vacuum, they always invest it in the next project and for other business relevant things. If you fail with 2-3 projects in a row, your resources are gone, no matter how well you performed before that, since you had to use all your remaining resources to create these projects. That's exactly what happened with Illusion.

Seems to me the thing that went wrong was KK and HS
No, their best and most popular games weren't the things that went wrong.

Studio was a neat feature but it wasn't the main selling point.
It was. That's why their latest games without Studio, despite having nice graphics and even a fresh gameplay experience, didn't sell well.

If it was Illusion would still be alive.
Nope, because they didn't update it. You can't sell endless digital copies. One day the market is saturated, almost everyone has a copy and if you want more sales, you either need to release paid updates or new sequels. Digital products dry out quickly once the end of their lifetime is reached. And you also need to stay ahead of the competition, doesn't help much if your graphics were state of the art in 2015 but aren't today. Your loyal customer base will only be so loyal.

That's why Meshed VR are making VAM 2 right now - they aren't sleeping on their success.

VAM style games have an audience but the average cumskull doesn't want to hand craft every single atom of his porn by hand.
Over 16.000+ Patreons say otherwise. VAM easily leaves even the most popular NSFW games behind, being #2 in the Top Patreon Adult Games charts.
 
Last edited:

Fuchsschweif

Well-Known Member
Sep 24, 2019
1,117
1,822
Y'all really need to get a hobby...
My hobby is to argue with people who never touched a business with their own hands, trying to educate me about how the industry of digital products I've been working in for almost 10 years works, based on their gut-feelings.

The confidence behind some of these statements is wild. :KEK:
 

Wlms

Active Member
Apr 17, 2021
982
1,575
My hobby is to argue with people
Here, pal', no need to elaborate further than that. It's an internet forum, no shame into enjoying stirring up shit from time to time.

Hell, I'm a prime example ! In this very thread nonetheless !!!

SortaLewd can testify.

well also sometimes it's just nonsensical amphetamines-fueled rambling but imho it's still pretty funny to read
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Fuchsschweif

Nihil5320

Member
Jul 2, 2022
361
920
My hobby is to argue with people who never touched a business with their own hands, trying to educate me about how the industry of digital products I've been working in for almost 10 years works, based on their gut-feelings.

The confidence behind some of these statements is wild. :KEK:
Oh just to be clear I wasn't trying to educate you, that seems like a lost cause. I was just highlighting the gaping flaws in your master plan.
 

Fuchsschweif

Well-Known Member
Sep 24, 2019
1,117
1,822
Oh just to be clear I wasn't trying to educate you, that seems like a lost cause. I was just highlighting the gaping flaws in your master plan.
That's really worth a lot, coming from here:

I played Illusion games and never once used the Studio, and I've never played a VN built using the same but I'm going to go out on a limb and presume that they're shit.
Your presumptions without ever having used Studio once, and never having played a VN built from Illusion assets, combined with virtually zero experience with asset marketplaces, nor understanding the demands of the market.

Thanks for highlighting the gApInG fLaWs in my master plan. :KEK:

Elon Musk called, he wants you to give him some advice on building rockets.
 
Last edited:

Nihil5320

Member
Jul 2, 2022
361
920
That's really worth a lot, coming from here:

Your presumptions without ever having used Studio once, and never having played a VN built from Illusion assets, combined with virtually zero experience with asset marketplaces, nor understanding the demands of the market.

Thanks for highlighting the gApInG fLaWs in my master plan. :KEK:

Elon Musk called, he wants you to give him some advice on building rockets.
I think it's just telling that you can't actually explain how focussing on a market of a few thousand (at most) VN creators is a good business model. So you fall back to misquoting, ad hominems or portraying your position as an argument from... rather questionable... authority.

Still a moot point mind you as this project obviously isn't going down the route you want.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Purple_Heart

Fuchsschweif

Well-Known Member
Sep 24, 2019
1,117
1,822
I think it's just telling that you can't actually explain how focussing on a market of a few thousand (at most) VN creators is a good business model. So you fall back to misquoting, ad hominems or portraying your position as an argument from... rather questionable... authority.

Still a moot point mind you as this project obviously isn't going down the route you want.
You are the one who's not able to explain why a marketplace like VAM wouldn't work, if it indeed works very well. You're arguing against reality; it's not me who holds the burden of proof.

You also failed to adress the fact, that the business model is not only targeted at VN creators, but also at simple players who just want to build their own dream scenarios. The asset-marketplace is an addition. A point you continuously ignore so that you can point at "only a few thousand customers buying assets".

Not to mention that you don't have any idea how much money a few thousand recurring customers who buy new assets every few weeks generate.

The potential is even bigger if you take a look at the growth rate of the NSFW game market. Things won't be the same in 5 years as they are right now.

There are even a lot of people who aren't in the NSFW industry, who did SFW art for anime with Illusion's Studio software. That's another market. It must not even be entirely NSFW focused, as people can - surprise - just leave the clothes on and do other kinds of arts with it. But in order to know that, you'd have needed to do some research ahead before you decided to argue over a product you've not used once in your life, nor played the products created with it.

This position is now free for the next competitor to take, and Wild Life is in a fantastic spot for that.
 
Last edited:
Nov 26, 2018
1
5
Game is cool. Would be nice if it came together faster, but the sandbox is fun and the animations and variety are easily among the best in any porn game. At points, this thread has some great legitimate commentary and all of that is appreciated.

That being said, can we like, ban or mute the guys that are constantly bickering in this thread? Are there moderators in this forum? It is getting really tiresome. Nobody wants to have to sort through pages of childish back-and-forth whinging just to see updates about the game or read some actual on-topic discussion.

These opinions and arguments are so painfully cringey to read that they have forced me to stop lurking and actually post in a (probably) vain effort to get it to stop. Nobody should have to read incoherent rants about the software development process from buffoons who have never shipped code or worked a real dev job in their life. They clearly lack the self-awareness for shame or they would never have posted such embarrassing admissions of ignorance and childishness in the first place. I actually am worried that I am going to become stupider just from exposure to them.

Mods, you need to step in. In 1200 pages of this thread, probably 200 are a small handful of fools crying into the internet about a porn game they didn't pay for. Enough is enough.

In no universe will I ever respond to any comments regarding this post. I going to go back to lurking again. If you find yourself typing out your tenth argumentative response to some other anonymous manchild on the internet in a porn forum, please step away from the keyboard and rethink your life. No rightminded adult would ever do that -- get some professional help or pick up any of the wonderful productive hobbies out there and spend your time better.
 

11922911

New Member
Feb 6, 2021
2
0
Yo hi ,I have a question.... is there a way to add the old wildlife map with the kerpaly village? i know theres an epty map but im to lazy to build one, and on the sandbox map link there is nothing like that
 

linx3

New Member
Jul 11, 2021
5
1
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Tell me, is it possible to play on the old village map from UE4 on the UE5 build? If so, can you post the link, thank you, my friends!
 
3.80 star(s) 182 Votes