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It has been around 3 years and I see literally zero new contents.. Just some new clothing options in each update which nobody cares about.. Infact they actually removed some contents in recent updates..
Still, this is a mod for a game that been developed many years ago, the fact that it's exist in a first place is already quite surprising
 
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cxx

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This Witch Trainer is the improved version, right?
compared to what? akabur's game? yes.

It has been around 3 years and I see literally zero new contents.. Just some new clothing options in each update which nobody cares about.. Infact they actually removed some contents in recent updates..
6 not 3 and yes they removed herrmione and luna 3some and luna sex but added sex with cho.
 

Hellofacritic

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I've been working on WTS for a while now, and I have to admit that I've been feeling a bit frustrated with the criticism I've been receiving. As a coder, I'm used to getting feedback, but it seems like a lot of the feedback posted here (Let's be honest, most of the feedback on this site is negative) I've been getting is more about what's wrong with the art, rather than what's right.

I'll be the first to admit that my art skills are a work in progress. I'm not a professional artist, I am a coder by heart, and I'm still learning the craft. But I'm trying my best, and I'm pouring my heart and soul into this project. And you know why? Because I care.

I've noticed that a lot of the criticism I've been getting is based on the fact that my art style isn't exactly like Akabur's. But I don't want to be Akabur. I want to be me. I want to have my own style, my own vision, and my own way of expressing myself through art.

I'm not asking for perfection. I'm just asking for a little bit of understanding and support. If you're willing to help out and offer constructive feedback, that's great. But if all you're going to do is criticise, then maybe it's not worth it.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, but I do want to make it clear that I'm not just doing this for fun. I'm doing it because I care about the project and the community. And I'm willing to put in the effort to make it happen.

I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of people willing to help out and contribute to the project. It seems like everyone is just waiting for someone else to do the work, and then they'll just criticise. It's a bit frustrating, to be honest.

But, if you're willing to help out and offer constructive feedback, that's great. Let's work together to make WTS the best it can be. But if you're just going to criticise, then maybe it's time for you to take a step back and think about why you're really here.
You are making a mod of Akabur's game. So people expect an improvement in the form of more content for this game. Getting rid of Akabur's art instead of improving on it by adding more characters and situations and hence "losing time" is what some would consider a downgrade.
I appreciate your effort though. And your game might end up surpassing Akabur's. I hope so at least.
 

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You are making a mod of Akabur's game. So people expect an improvement in the form of more content for this game. Getting rid of Akabur's art instead of improving on it by adding more characters and situations and hence "losing time" is what some would consider a downgrade.
I appreciate your effort though. And your game might end up surpassing Akabur's. I hope so at least.
akabur's game was only hermione and less favors than this and more limited.
 
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tarzan999

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akabur's game was only hermione and less favors than this and more limited.
And the content that Akabur made is still basically the only reason Silver is good. The new art and writing are not anything special. And on top of the additions not being great they have also been extremely slow to develop. Mostly because the modders keep upgrading old content constantly instead of adding new content.

I am still happy that this game is being worked on, but the Silver team is not competent. If they were they would have massively expanded the content by now with art or more events. They are doing the bare minimum and make money just because Akabur's Hermione is great.
 

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And the content that Akabur made is still basically the only reason Silver is good. The new art and writing are not anything special. And on top of the additions not being great they have also been extremely slow to develop. Mostly because the modders keep upgrading old content constantly instead of adding new content.

I am still happy that this game is being worked on, but the Silver team is not competent. If they were they would have massively expanded the content by now with art or more events. They are doing the bare minimum and make money just because Akabur's Hermione is great.
Oh, the jerk again. If you think it's all so awful, why do you even bother? Just complaining for the sake of complaining?

The SilverMod has expanded the game by at least 5 times. There are regular status updates on the Discord. Next Tonk will get a big expansion.

But here you are, moaning about people not programming and expanding a free game full time so you can have an update every month.

Psycho vampires like you rob other people of all motivation and lust for life.
 
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And the content that Akabur made is still basically the only reason Silver is good. The new art and writing are not anything special. And on top of the additions not being great they have also been extremely slow to develop. Mostly because the modders keep upgrading old content constantly instead of adding new content.

I am still happy that this game is being worked on, but the Silver team is not competent. If they were they would have massively expanded the content by now with art or more events. They are doing the bare minimum and make money just because Akabur's Hermione is great.
While I understand some of the points you are making, I find a couple of your statements rather extreme & unfair.

Sure, it's not like the Silver team made a game of their own but if you follow them for long enough, you can't argue the fact they are putting their hearts out into making a solid game that is, not merely a copy of the already existing content, but a project that ressemble them. While it's a given the initial material isn't theirs, the fact they are trying to work into making the writting & gameplay more coherent, working on different features either to be improved or implomented all the while continuing to work on adding actual contents should be put to their credits.

Deeming them 'incompetent' simply because they have chosen an approach that's not what certain people would like (aka simply focusing on adding more contents, more regularly) harms your overall statement, which I clealry believe is shared amongst the player base.

Cause yeah, while the dev team is transparent (some appreciate it, some other don't really care), the actual content is slow to come. I can't argue that either, it sure as hell is frustrating but at the end of the day, they opted for a long-term approach and while it will lose them some people along the way, I do believe it's the right call when wanting to make something good.

You clearly don't seem to be the kind of guy that rewards good intentions solely and that's fine. But making the so-original claim that all they do is milking money, while there would be so many easier ways to do it than what they are doing, is putting it a bit far.
 

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I know some people get oddly mad about it but if anyone has a save I'd love to not have to play hours of this game for the xth time. Thanks!
 
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Combat1

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And the content that Akabur made is still basically the only reason Silver is good. The new art and writing are not anything special. And on top of the additions not being great they have also been extremely slow to develop. Mostly because the modders keep upgrading old content constantly instead of adding new content.

I am still happy that this game is being worked on, but the Silver team is not competent. If they were they would have massively expanded the content by now with art or more events. They are doing the bare minimum and make money just because Akabur's Hermione is great.
I just can't even understand complaining so much about something that someone is willingly providing you for free.

I seriously don't get it. There is so much QQ on this site complaining about stuff that the developers are under no obligation whatsoever to provide to you.

If you're actively supporting the Patreon or whatever then I get complaining, but all of us are leeches that don't deserve anything. I genuinely don't understand the mindset of whining on here.
 

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I just can't even understand complaining so much about something that someone is willingly providing you for free.

I seriously don't get it. There is so much QQ on this site complaining about stuff that the developers are under no obligation whatsoever to provide to you.

If you're actively supporting the Patreon or whatever then I get complaining, but all of us are leeches that don't deserve anything. I genuinely don't understand the mindset of whining on here.
Something being free doesn't make it immune to criticism. And why shouldn't people be free to complain about whatever they want? Because you are too sensitive and your feelings get hurt?
 

Sheajin

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What is the point of being content with shit even if it is free? I don't care why something is shit. I want it to stop being shit. People like you have terminally low standards.

You just lost me with that sentence. It doesn't matter if the product is free or not or if it is made with 'love' or not. The product is low quality. So my complaints are are a lot more warranted than your defense. Maybe the dev team would be more focused on making actual content instead of engine updates, old content minor touch-ups and mascots(I have a feeling that this mascot will be used just like in Innocent Witches. They will make costumes for her and pass it off as content) if there weren't people in forums fighting for them to do less. It's just counter productive behavior. I would understand if you defend them after some user called them rude names or something more extreme, but I am just pointing out the obvious. They are incompetent and ride on the coattails of Akabur and knights in shining armor like you to get paid without having to work too hard and start getting good at art and writing.
womp womp
 

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I don't mind however long the new updates take, but after 7 years it does make me think if the devs should have just moved on to make their own game by now. It's fun to check back in on this mod once a year or two to see what's been changed or added, but after a couple hours I get bored and just remember why I stopped playing Akabur's games years ago.
 
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You just lost me with that sentence. It doesn't matter if the product is free or not or if it is made with 'love' or not. The product is low quality. [
Yes it does. There is a difference between the dev(s) blatantly milking patreons (you don't need to look very far to find some exemples) and those who are actually giving a shit, regardless if it pleases or not. Pretending it doesn't matter shows how awfully absolute your whole argument is.

Maybe the dev team would be more focused on making actual content instead of engine updates, old content minor touch-ups and mascots (I have a feeling that this mascot will be used just like in Innocent Witches. They will make costumes for her and pass it off as content) if there weren't people in forums fighting for them to do less. It's just counter productive behavior. They are incompetent and ride on the coattails of Akabur and knights in shining armor like you to get paid without having to work too hard and start getting good at art and writing.
Surely acting like a complete ass, calling either the people incompetent or the work they do shit just because it doesn't satisfy your vision of how things should be done end-up being far more productive, right? Such an unique & rational approach must be working wonders both IRL & online, so much that it gets me to wonder why we don't all this way, about everything.
 
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True. The question, then, is how to decide if a product (free or not) is good or bad.

For some types of products, it’s relatively easy. If a car or a fridge or a hairdryer breaks and ceases functioning after a couple of uses, then one can safely say they are bad products.

In general, though, determining whether a product is good or bad is more a matter of consensus, of majority of opinions. This is especially true in the case of cultural products, like books, films, songs or paintings. Whether computer games can be considered « culture » is debatable, but I’ve read magazines that publish critical evaluations of games alongside music and film reviews.

In the case of this particular game, you seem to be of the opinion that it is bad, which is your right; I, on the other hand, think that it is good. Now my opinion is no more, and no less valid, than yours, and arguing over who is right would be pointless. It’s a matter of taste, is all.
 
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