How about something more wholesome and family friendly like pregnancy then? Who's next after Jamie? Is BD going to give us three different Shauna paths (trans/preggo/not) leading to three different versions of her scenes? How is Harp going to feel knowing both her and Nat's kids are going to have the same father?
The MC lets her play one of Doc's games, after which she never asks herself such irrelevant questions again
I would asume that Shauna is next
Probably
Wierded out at the start, but realising that with the MC as a father the kids will be taken good care of, and probably so in love by that point that she don't care.
Yes, BD took a page out of perverteer's book and originally built his 3rd PC to do preggo variations of all the renders in the future.
No wonder the game has been pure shit the last few updates I had no idea you where purposefully moving away from the things that made this game awesome the frequent dirty and raunchy hookups as well as the feeling of "this guy is awesome and can have anyone he wants". I noticed in the last couple updates there was so much bullshit about solving stupid problems and dealing with peoples feeling I was super confused as to why it felt so boring and different from how the game felt in the beginning. I lost a lot of love for the game when I found out it was going to have no incest as I wanted a Nat/Harp threesome more then anything, now I find out your not even making the same game anymore because you've wildly changed the direction the game was going. I'm glad to at least have an explanation why the game hasn't been as good as it use to.Gonna throw my 2 cents into this even though no one asked for it
So, in my opinion... I agree incest is on topic since a player can come away from the game thinking it's a possibility, they'll come here after finishing and seeing there isn't a tag for it and innocently ask if there is any planned.
That seems cool. They can be answered civilly, something along the lines of "The dev has stated he does not plan on adding it but there are people who believe he's just saying that to cover himself from patreon's TOS. Only time can tell."
Perfectly valid, simple 2 post Q&A.
Where the problem is in my eyes is everything past that... the 40+ posts arguing over the definition of incest and if it is or isn't allowed. How is that on topic? How does that contribute anything meaningful? Especially when the same exact argument and points have been made 50 times already. It's the largest reason why I very rarely come here anymore.
We got rid of actual fun conversations pertaining the game such as the march madness bracket and theories and even the occasional on-topic meme for the same old pointless argument that will always lead to the same conclusion... nothing.
Only I know what the future holds. I am being 100% honest when I say I have no plans or intentions of working on that sort of content. I have people in my life that know what I do and I'm personally not comfortable having something that taboo attached to it. I was open to the idea early on, never actively planned on it though. As far as Azel tease scenes go I'll put it like this: Remember the first scene with Alexis? Remember the first scene with Zoe, Bailey, and Liz in the basement? Remember the first scene with Katie?
They were all dirty and raunchy hookups and the Liz one in particular I cringe even thinking about now. That sort of energy was only there very early on and I quickly realized I wasn't a fan of it and those characters act drastically different now and those scenes will be drastically different in the redo.
So I said all that to say, I was dumb in the beginning and didn't have characters and their events planned out very well. I was also experimenting finding what I did like... which turned out to be wholesome vanilla simp sim but it is what it is. But I do understand how all of that can simply be handwaved away by people who think I'm trying to ninja behind patreon.
TL;DR: No incest but questions are okay, debates bad.
Aw man. I was fearing this.Gonna throw my 2 cents into this even though no one asked for it
So, in my opinion... I agree incest is on topic since a player can come away from the game thinking it's a possibility, they'll come here after finishing and seeing there isn't a tag for it and innocently ask if there is any planned.
That seems cool. They can be answered civilly, something along the lines of "The dev has stated he does not plan on adding it but there are people who believe he's just saying that to cover himself from patreon's TOS. Only time can tell."
Perfectly valid, simple 2 post Q&A.
Where the problem is in my eyes is everything past that... the 40+ posts arguing over the definition of incest and if it is or isn't allowed. How is that on topic? How does that contribute anything meaningful? Especially when the same exact argument and points have been made 50 times already. It's the largest reason why I very rarely come here anymore.
We got rid of actual fun conversations pertaining the game such as the march madness bracket and theories and even the occasional on-topic meme for the same old pointless argument that will always lead to the same conclusion... nothing.
Only I know what the future holds. I am being 100% honest when I say I have no plans or intentions of working on that sort of content. I have people in my life that know what I do and I'm personally not comfortable having something that taboo attached to it. I was open to the idea early on, never actively planned on it though. As far as Azel tease scenes go I'll put it like this: Remember the first scene with Alexis? Remember the first scene with Zoe, Bailey, and Liz in the basement? Remember the first scene with Katie?
They were all dirty and raunchy hookups and the Liz one in particular I cringe even thinking about now. That sort of energy was only there very early on and I quickly realized I wasn't a fan of it and those characters act drastically different now and those scenes will be drastically different in the redo.
So I said all that to say, I was dumb in the beginning and didn't have characters and their events planned out very well. I was also experimenting finding what I did like... which turned out to be wholesome vanilla simp sim but it is what it is. But I do understand how all of that can simply be handwaved away by people who think I'm trying to ninja behind patreon.
TL;DR: No incest but questions are okay, debates bad.
As someone that was one of the first here to support and even rate the game when you started....I can't say I'm not very dissapointed how this all is turning out, in the end is your decision because is your game but like any of those users here... many of us were invested in this game in a way, either by supporting you monetary, through feedback, comments, reviews, spreading the word etc etcGonna throw my 2 cents into this even though no one asked for it
So, in my opinion... I agree incest is on topic since a player can come away from the game thinking it's a possibility, they'll come here after finishing and seeing there isn't a tag for it and innocently ask if there is any planned.
That seems cool. They can be answered civilly, something along the lines of "The dev has stated he does not plan on adding it but there are people who believe he's just saying that to cover himself from patreon's TOS. Only time can tell."
Perfectly valid, simple 2 post Q&A.
Where the problem is in my eyes is everything past that... the 40+ posts arguing over the definition of incest and if it is or isn't allowed. How is that on topic? How does that contribute anything meaningful? Especially when the same exact argument and points have been made 50 times already. It's the largest reason why I very rarely come here anymore.
We got rid of actual fun conversations pertaining the game such as the march madness bracket and theories and even the occasional on-topic meme for the same old pointless argument that will always lead to the same conclusion... nothing.
Only I know what the future holds. I am being 100% honest when I say I have no plans or intentions of working on that sort of content. I have people in my life that know what I do and I'm personally not comfortable having something that taboo attached to it. I was open to the idea early on, never actively planned on it though. As far as Azel tease scenes go I'll put it like this: Remember the first scene with Alexis? Remember the first scene with Zoe, Bailey, and Liz in the basement? Remember the first scene with Katie?
They were all dirty and raunchy hookups and the Liz one in particular I cringe even thinking about now. That sort of energy was only there very early on and I quickly realized I wasn't a fan of it and those characters act drastically different now and those scenes will be drastically different in the redo.
So I said all that to say, I was dumb in the beginning and didn't have characters and their events planned out very well. I was also experimenting finding what I did like... which turned out to be wholesome vanilla simp sim but it is what it is. But I do understand how all of that can simply be handwaved away by people who think I'm trying to ninja behind patreon.
TL;DR: No incest but questions are okay, debates bad.
Don't get me wrong. This game will still have many hookups and it's still very much a "this guy is awesome and can have anyone he wants" kind of game.
My problem with the game is that the girls I like fall on the family category, I honestly could care less about the incest thing, I love the models you used for them and always said so, now they are just discarded, is there any way you can make the family be some other perhaps new girls? after all you are going to rework a lot of the game no? or it will be just removing something and adding some text and scene here and there?Don't get me wrong. This game will still have many hookups and it's still very much a "this guy is awesome and can have anyone he wants" kind of game.
I just look back at those specifics ones and personally don't like how the hookups were handled. Especially Liz's.
I suppose Alexis' scene was the most tame and I don't have many problems with the scene itself, I just hate most of the dialogue.
Liz's scene was essentially Zoe and Bailey facilitating what they could only know as borderline rape. Which... fuck man why'd I do that? I was going for a scene in which the MC would be emotionally conflicted to help Liz but it fell flat on its face and is just creepy and weird.
Katie's scene was in line with her character and once again isn't so bad, I just dislike the timing of it and the abruptness of it, and also the dialogue.
Basically the goal is just to tone it down. Less power struggles and such.
This is still a "collect 'em all" game. (Besides family)
Hook ups will be handled a lot more like Yen's was. (The custodian Mabel sets you up with.)
Not to go into spoilers but there will be a shit ton of hook ups. Notably on away games. Some get kinky, some are vanilla. None are morally wrong.
Also the entire game has always been about people's feelings and solving problems. That's never changed and it definitely isn't new.
I kind of get it tbh... The Liz scene anyways... I don't see Zoe as the type to whore someone out to a stranger. She loves her girls (mama bear). I often thought that was the reason she didn't want a relationship with MC, she was ashamed of what she did. Scene was hot but yeah, doesn't really fit. Pretty sure she would kill Charles before letting Emiko be taken advantage of like that.Don't get me wrong. This game will still have many hookups and it's still very much a "this guy is awesome and can have anyone he wants" kind of game.
I just look back at those specifics ones and personally don't like how the hookups were handled. Especially Liz's.
I suppose Alexis' scene was the most tame and I don't have many problems with the scene itself, I just hate most of the dialogue.
Liz's scene was essentially Zoe and Bailey facilitating what they could only know as borderline rape. Which... fuck man why'd I do that? I was going for a scene in which the MC would be emotionally conflicted to help Liz but it fell flat on its face and is just creepy and weird.
Katie's scene was in line with her character and once again isn't so bad, I just dislike the timing of it and the abruptness of it, and also the dialogue.
Basically the goal is just to tone it down. Less power struggles and such.
This is still a "collect 'em all" game. (Besides family)
Hook ups will be handled a lot more like Yen's was. (The custodian Mabel sets you up with.)
Not to go into spoilers but there will be a shit ton of hook ups. Notably on away games. Some get kinky, some are vanilla. None are morally wrong.
Also the entire game has always been about people's feelings and solving problems. That's never changed and it definitely isn't new.
I just found this game last week and finished it recently. I absolutely love it but the few scenes you mentioned are actually the ones I felt were for the lack of a better word "off" from the rest of the game.Don't get me wrong. This game will still have many hookups and it's still very much a "this guy is awesome and can have anyone he wants" kind of game.
I just look back at those specifics ones and personally don't like how the hookups were handled. Especially Liz's.
I suppose Alexis' scene was the most tame and I don't have many problems with the scene itself, I just hate most of the dialogue.
Liz's scene was essentially Zoe and Bailey facilitating what they could only know as borderline rape. Which... fuck man why'd I do that? I was going for a scene in which the MC would be emotionally conflicted to help Liz but it fell flat on its face and is just creepy and weird.
Katie's scene was in line with her character and once again isn't so bad, I just dislike the timing of it and the abruptness of it, and also the dialogue.
Basically the goal is just to tone it down. Less power struggles and such.
This is still a "collect 'em all" game. (Besides family)
Hook ups will be handled a lot more like Yen's was. (The custodian Mabel sets you up with.)
Not to go into spoilers but there will be a shit ton of hook ups. Notably on away games. Some get kinky, some are vanilla. None are morally wrong.
Also the entire game has always been about people's feelings and solving problems. That's never changed and it definitely isn't new.
Cutting those scenes would make the assholes less so, making the other players seem better,
At the very beginning of your game. MC went to where Azel worked at the time. This was where MC first meet Rachael. If I remember correctly Rachael encouraged MC to seduce and have sex with Azel. This is where it all began. You Mr. Dev put that in the game. You got everyone's hopes up with the idea of sex between MC and Azel. Updates later we all got our hopes dashed when you said there would be no incest and you felt sex between MC and Azel was incest (they aren't blood related so in truth that wouldn't be incest). You Mr. Dev started this whole debate. If you weren't planning on MC and Azel to have sex then that should never have been in the game. That or/and Azel should have stayed in their home town. But instead you move her to where MC is and MC and Azel do everything BUT have sex. Do you not realize how you are just teasing people? Why is Azel even still in the story? She can't add to it in any way now. All she is is DEAD WEIGHT. To be honest same can be said about Willow and MC's Mom. He has found them. We have heard the story. Great now what good are they now? Having to carry Willow around everywhere cuts down on MC's time with the women he can be with. So again DEAD WEIGHT.Gonna throw my 2 cents into this even though no one asked for it
So, in my opinion... I agree incest is on topic since a player can come away from the game thinking it's a possibility, they'll come here after finishing and seeing there isn't a tag for it and innocently ask if there is any planned.
That seems cool. They can be answered civilly, something along the lines of "The dev has stated he does not plan on adding it but there are people who believe he's just saying that to cover himself from patreon's TOS. Only time can tell."
Perfectly valid, simple 2 post Q&A.
Where the problem is in my eyes is everything past that... the 40+ posts arguing over the definition of incest and if it is or isn't allowed. How is that on topic? How does that contribute anything meaningful? Especially when the same exact argument and points have been made 50 times already. It's the largest reason why I very rarely come here anymore.
We got rid of actual fun conversations pertaining the game such as the march madness bracket and theories and even the occasional on-topic meme for the same old pointless argument that will always lead to the same conclusion... nothing.
Only I know what the future holds. I am being 100% honest when I say I have no plans or intentions of working on that sort of content. I have people in my life that know what I do and I'm personally not comfortable having something that taboo attached to it. I was open to the idea early on, never actively planned on it though. As far as Azel tease scenes go I'll put it like this: Remember the first scene with Alexis? Remember the first scene with Zoe, Bailey, and Liz in the basement? Remember the first scene with Katie?
They were all dirty and raunchy hookups and the Liz one in particular I cringe even thinking about now. That sort of energy was only there very early on and I quickly realized I wasn't a fan of it and those characters act drastically different now and those scenes will be drastically different in the redo.
So I said all that to say, I was dumb in the beginning and didn't have characters and their events planned out very well. I was also experimenting finding what I did like... which turned out to be wholesome vanilla simp sim but it is what it is. But I do understand how all of that can simply be handwaved away by people who think I'm trying to ninja behind patreon.
TL;DR: No incest but questions are okay, debates bad.
And instead of taking it as a tease and move on a vocal minority made it a mission to p.o. everybody here by bringing this up over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Play a different game.
