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Point me towards the toxicity to BD's family in the last 100 pages of this thread, cuz I have been reading everything here for the last few months like the sad bastard that I am and I haven't see anything that you mention.
People are being "toxic" (if you want to call it that) towards BD because he deserves it right now. If you want everyone to kiss his feet, go to his patreon/discord (where he deletes the evil weevil posty wostys). If you want honest opinions, which includes the angry ones, stay here.
Truly please explain to me how a dev owes pirates anything? You state that he deserves toxicity and that it's all honesty. So honestly please do tell what this dev or any other owes pirates?
I doubt all the posts I referred to are deleted but I'm sure the worst were but I refuse to take the time to search for the remaining sorry.
I think it's simpler than that. Some people use tragedies that occur to and around them as excuses and some don't.
Not possible. ICSTOR's renders are far better and he actually has the capacity to write a coherent story. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy WVM but the writing is an absolute mess.Just gonna trow this here i hear alot of people say he is just like ICSTOR what if he is the same guy?
edit: also don't speak to me, I'm annoyed that you made me say something good about ICSTOR
My guy, where do you think this game started?
Personally I never say anything on patreon and I certainly don't join some random dudes discord for the porn game they make. That's just so fucking weird to me. Also I'm pretty sure I remember people claiming BD was banning people & removing supporters who spoke up a while back, so if that's true then it's not too surprising that you don't see much there. Also where is this supposed toxicity towards his family?
I'm not sure why you and some other people are under the impression that there isn't a single person here who has forked over cash. Since we've gone so long without a reasonable amount of content I'd hazard a guess that the people here are more invested than most and that you might be surprised just how many of them have supported BD in the past. I'm not sure why it matters in the first place though, the things people here are criticizing BD for are valid regardless of whether they fork out some money or not.
Just as an aside: if you don't want to hear pirates opinions on things then what the fuck are you doing here?
- Dec 5, 2017
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Please tell me you think that the 3k+ people that are paying Braindrop every month found the game through Patreon. Please, i need a good laugh, so tell me you really believe that
- Apr 4, 2018
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Well, if Pirates wouldn't have spreed the word this is a nice VN (besides the Dog Licking Kissing) it would be nowhere. Would have maybe have 100 Patrons, when not even less.
And he can ask for People who supportet him every month but stopt there pledges because of the excuses when they finally Lost there trust in the Dev.
With the problem BD is fighting, it would be best if he put the game on hold and fix his RL first. Even look for some professional Help if he can't do it on his own, he will just always fall back into his bad shape. Asking for Help is never a Bad idea.
Patreons and bootlickers go round and round and come here at this pirate game forum to cry their favorite dev isnt loved enough. Bring some more of them surely some of you lot love him more than facepalming every post.
First of all just want to call you out again for your lie that people here are being mean about BDs family. There is none of this happening, so stop pretending he's a victim.
Secondly, if your argument is that you're not allowed an opinion unless you are a paying sub to BD.... what are you doing here? 99% of the people on f95 don't pay, its literally a pirate forum. You're really gonna say that because we don't pay we should shut up and not talk? Lol. If you're so anti piracy then leave man.
I notice you're not a sub of BDs either, but your opinion is OK right? Cuz it's an ass kissing one?
So I have to pay BD in order to call him out for his shitty business ethics and scammy behaviour? Wrong. I can not sub him and call him out for his bullshit. That's literally how it works. FYI, I used to be a patreon of his for months but I cancelled and now I'm sharing my opinion on his posts and his game.
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The trouble being you assume everyone on here is a pirate plenty on here subscribe to games. Sites like these provide free advertising to the games which result in them gaining patrons making players eager for the next update. You also realise that some people on here have been booted from BD's patrons page due to voicing their opinion and can only speak their mind here. Not saying BD hasn't had a rough time but he pulls in more money in a month compared to other VN's who are showing results. Like it was commented on this forum earlier when one of BD's fans compared it to Artemis,LOF,BAD and Eternum amongst a few.
Drifty has been through a rough patch but is getting through it his game is more complex than WVM he even spent 2 months of his patron fee to keep the music in the game and it's nearly ready. Artemis dig.b has done a good job with that game but still managed to rework some of it same issues with soundtracks even hired a composer to score some of them but has managed to hit nearly 3k renders since January. BAD we had the interlude to keep us busy but the next update is going to be a massive one but still has issues like others due to it being on steam. Eternum again another game that is making good progress with a good storyline.
Point being if his patrons can't complain which just results in them being kicked from his patron/subscribe star they will take to the forums wherever they are to voice their opinion. You can't blame them it was the end of last year before they had any real update compare it to BAD/Artemis which were released round the same time as that update and are heading for their next release within the next 3 months. They have been kept updated by the dev's which is why you don't see bitching on there just game talk and eagerness for the update's to drop. Compare dev's who care about their subscribers to BD you'll see the difference he's getting far more money than others but doesn't have to deal with music,mini games,constant in game choices ect ect so what is all that money going to if it's just renders and animations when others spend to keep the game as they want it.
If he really cared about it like he said he would have hired help like others have he's earning more than others to easily achieve it but that alone proves a point he doesn't want to press further with the game it seems milking even more
Hey I'm new and I'm not sure which link to install this game from. Season 2 Chapter 1 Episode 1 or v0.10.0.1?
Season 2 Chapter 1 starts at the beginning and includes up to Season 2 Chapter 1 - its a one and done file
- Aug 24, 2020
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Maybe this will help you think why people are pissed
Well i was a pantreon from the very first day on since the first version came out until this year in february.
I postet on pantreon at that time that i want more regular updates again and not updates every now and then.
5 minutes later my post was deleted,and i asked what the fuck that was,and guess what i was banned.
So the "rumors" are true and i was not the only one.
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Yeah you got banned just like a few others who called the DEV out. Apparently the reason that we were banned is not only did we call him out but because we hurt his feelings and we were mean.
Yeah he wrote something like that as an answer when i asked him "what the fuck is wrong with you??"
My posting was not nice enough for him or something like that.
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Yeah that's what he told a lot of us. Apparently we were over critical of him and it stressed him out. He said that people were extremely mean to him on Patreon and Discord so he is going to hire someone to manage things. He also says that this is just a hobby which is a bunch of horse shit.
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Unfortunately nothing is really going to change. The number of patrons has gone up not down. The end of June I believe it was around 3500. It went down to around 3000 at the start of July. There is always some fall off at the start of every month, but that seemed like a decent drop. However July hasn't ended yet and it's back up over 3600.
It's not my money and everyone can do with their own money whatever they like, but I don't believe any real change will happen without support dropping off to the point where BD has to start worrying. That hasn't happened yet and doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon. Really like the game and would love to see it getting back on track, but as long as the money is flowing in without BD having to produce anything other than excuses, nothing is likely to change.
It's not my money and everyone can do with their own money whatever they like, but I don't believe any real change will happen without support dropping off to the point where BD has to start worrying. That hasn't happened yet and doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon. Really like the game and would love to see it getting back on track, but as long as the money is flowing in without BD having to produce anything other than excuses, nothing is likely to change.
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As someone mildly interested in this game, I'm dissapointed to see that this dev went the Icstor route. I did check on his posts from time to time in the last 2 years and while he seemed a nice enough guy, it's sad to see that the success went to his head.
He used to have a solid work ethic but now, it's just excuses and empty promises.
I get it, in a way, with him getting married and having a baby. A baby is a game changer and in the first few years, an absorbing pit of money and attention. The decent thing to do would have been for him to put this game on hold and figure things out in his personal life and maybe, just maybe, work on the game when he had the time, which would be very little. Instead, he preferred to lie to his fans, deliver some half assed update and call it a day.
There might be people who will say that I'm blaming his family or some other stuff like that. No, I am not doing that. What I am trying to do is to explain a few things, that I interpreted from what people are saying and my (admittedly little) knowledge that I have of the dev. I actually wish him all the best when it comes to his personal life.
For those of you defending him, I have to ask, why are you doing this? Has he not had missed deadlines before? Did he not make promises that he has continuously broken? Did he not say that he will release one update of 300 renders and shortly after, another one of 400 renders?
I actually have a suggestion for you. Instead of trusting blindly, try to doubt him a little. You'll see that you can find out more about someone that way. Try to ask him, on patreon or discord why he is having such a hard time delivering a product that he has continuously said is almost ready and see how he reacts to your question. And if you are afraid that you're going to lose his friendship, remember that your life was fine before knowing him. It can only get better if you remove a toxic friendship.
He used to have a solid work ethic but now, it's just excuses and empty promises.
I get it, in a way, with him getting married and having a baby. A baby is a game changer and in the first few years, an absorbing pit of money and attention. The decent thing to do would have been for him to put this game on hold and figure things out in his personal life and maybe, just maybe, work on the game when he had the time, which would be very little. Instead, he preferred to lie to his fans, deliver some half assed update and call it a day.
There might be people who will say that I'm blaming his family or some other stuff like that. No, I am not doing that. What I am trying to do is to explain a few things, that I interpreted from what people are saying and my (admittedly little) knowledge that I have of the dev. I actually wish him all the best when it comes to his personal life.
For those of you defending him, I have to ask, why are you doing this? Has he not had missed deadlines before? Did he not make promises that he has continuously broken? Did he not say that he will release one update of 300 renders and shortly after, another one of 400 renders?
I actually have a suggestion for you. Instead of trusting blindly, try to doubt him a little. You'll see that you can find out more about someone that way. Try to ask him, on patreon or discord why he is having such a hard time delivering a product that he has continuously said is almost ready and see how he reacts to your question. And if you are afraid that you're going to lose his friendship, remember that your life was fine before knowing him. It can only get better if you remove a toxic friendship.