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those images are in some link in the extras section? because I've only seen what looks like a previous version.
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Calling myself a freeloader for taking something I do not pay for would, by many people's accounts, not be considered virtue signaling. I simply explained what my definition of freeloading is, and that I fit that definition just like anyone else here who is described by that definition.
If you have a different definition of freeloading - feel free to share it - no judgment, just discussion.
Maybe you have valid points worth considering.
Perhaps you just have your opinions, and we have to agree to disagree.
I'm fine with having that discussion.
Cheers!
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From what I have played (until before day 32) I can say that it is a bit weird, because they are "forced" situations like the kiss when she scared her to wake up, the Mc putting one on top of the other when they are not very comfortable, if they feel more like the script forcing that. It is something that unlike Bailey and Rainn can be said that is more to please certain subscribers, for example all the no incest but every now and then seems a step away from making out with Azel however there does not yield by the rules of patreon, but for those who want Shauna to fuck Jamie it makes it easier for him to carry it out.not really ... if you've been playing this game for awhile you'd have seen this coming ....... like most of us ... i believe ...
At least I feel that way because I see them more as bf's than them being more than friends, but that was a foregone conclusion since sometimes they would drop the 3 way relationship thing or because they don't kiss.
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nothing got forced .. you had the choice ... you could have chosen not to let them
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I don't mean the choice xd, I mean the feeling that the whole situation gives me, it doesn't seem natural, at least that's how I feel, it's more something that the developer wants but didn't know how to make it flow than with "forced" situations like the kiss or that they are on top of each other by request of the mc.nothing got forced .. you had the choice ... you could have chosen not to let them
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well like i said i kinda saw this coming from several updates ago ...
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yeah, I just played it and I also saw it coming but it just doesn't add up xd but that's how they decided to handle things.well like i said i kinda saw this coming from several updates ago ...
A scene from the next update got leaked
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Stop acting like the problem is about characterization. It's not. There's something you don't like and you're moaning just because of that, despite said thing being just an option. It's a fucking pornographic game, it IS about fetishes, you're sperging out because it's not what you're into.
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MC should have Belle sit on his lap as he drives the boat. Hold on Belle.
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I think you either missed or don't remember Tia's scene in the garage. Jamie is very much into watching and getting involved with others with MC, she is still struggling with getting past how she was brought up and is trying to embrace what she likes.
I have no idea what female Shawna's storyline is being worked into, but Trans Shawna is still trying to figure out who she is and is still very uncomfortable with her body. As they all progress together, Shawna is slowly learning to be ok with her body and has said that being around/with Jamie has been a big help with that.
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yes the scene with tia leads you to think Jamie is bi but it's more like her, the Mc and someone else at that moment, I don't see her as being in a relationship with someone else without the Mc, at least that's my impression, and from what I understand it would be more of a Shauna and Jamie, it's kind of weird how I'm phrasing it but I mean I see Jamie only doing things with someone else only if the Mc is involved.
I don't know if it happens in the 2 versions of Shauna in the cheating path but when Jamie tells the Mc that he can be with Shauna it's like a fresh start and you can see how Shauna is uncomfortable at first and then with Jamie's help she gains more confidence, but after that it's like it's normal to be the 3 of them together in bed so I don't notice too much discomfort with his body from then on, until the scene where Skye touches her waist that reminds you of her body confidence problems because before that everything seemed to have been overcome, going to the point yes Jamie was a big factor in Shauna growing to accept her body (female Shauna that I remember is not emphasized so much in her discomfort, not taking into account its past but its present) but they just seem more like best friends and not with an interest beyond that, the only situations that make you think that it was coming are forced actions (the kiss and the Mc's request) but in my opinion none of their interactions make you think that they could develop a romantic relationship.
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from what I understand about how Shauna feels about herself, it seems like she is becoming more comfortable being nude around the MC and Jamie but whenever someone else is involved in sexual acts or just touches Shauna in normal day activities then she has a panic attack and feels uncomfortable. Which is why she reacts that way when Skye touches her waist and when Aubrey sees them in the bathroom and inside the trailer. Granted that I play with Shauna not being trans, so it might be slightly different reasonings on that path, but on her non trans path is seems like she has body dysmorphia and is slowly working through it with the MC's and Jamie's help.
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You seem to have missed the point... Not everyone on this site is a freeloader some of us are supporters or did support (you'd be surprised how much devs make from people from this site alone VIA advertisement here and etc) this isn't just a pirate site thats the point you seem to be missing so yes its 100% disingenuous to label all people freeloaders here for example my own subs from patron/subscriberstar don't really interact on there but will message me here or in my threads instead because lets be honest a forum is alot better place to discuss things, patron/subscriberstar doesn't really offer the best platform for discussing things besides leaving a small comment like "nice update" or "shit update" its primarily designed for one off comments not a full blown back and forth discussion like we are doing right now.
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yes but it's not a topic that was touched on much so it went largely unnoticed until Skye and Aubrey, so I didn't pay much attention to it, however the point was that Shauna got help from Jamie and the Mc to get over that, but the interaction between Shauna and Jamie I saw more as friends that was what I was trying to explain.
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both Shauna's story is pretty much the exact same just a few different renders whenever shes naked and minor text changes during sex scene
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and, instead of believing that you intentionally took me out of context, you were instead, unaware of the content in the other posts that preceded the one you commented on (those posts begin on page 2913).
Let me recap:
* A supporter who is currently paying the dev with $ - AKA an approved means of compensating a dev for their work - is, by definition, Not a freeloader.
* Someone who has never supported the dev with $ or a service approved by the dev is, by definition, a freeloader - AKA taking the work of that dev for free.
* Someone who used to be a supporter (paying the dev with $ and/or services approved by the dev) but is currently taking the work of the dev for free, is a freeloader IMO.
I am in this category and that makes me a freeloader; I am currently taking the work of this dev for free.
IMO - this makes anyone else in this category a freeloader Just like me.
If you want to disagree with my opinion, that's fine.
As I said in my original post (first post, pg. 2913):
Are many people here taking WVM for free? - Yes
I currently fall into this category as well. If/when I feel DB is back on track, I'd be happy to start supporting him as a Patreon once again.
Until I start supporting the dev with either $ or approved services, I remain a freeloader, regardless of my future intent or the dev's future actions.
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Now - we have a difference of opinion about the benefit of using a support platform (Patreon/SS) versus F95 to communicate with a dev:
I believe that I have better and more honest communication with the dev's I support by using both the comment feature and DM feature on Patreon/SS to communicate with them versus attempting to communicate with the devs on F95.
I don't expect the devs I support to wade through a few pages to dozens of pages sorting the wheat from the chaff to find good/valid feedback, particularly the most important kind - the feedback from those who have actual skin in the game - supporters who pay the dev $ in support of their creative efforts.
I believe that your experience is very different than my experience:
You are approaching your experience from a dev perspective about your specific creation/creations And you have chosen to be an active part of discussions on the thread(s) supporting what you create.
I don't know what your creation(s) are, and I have likely never seen the F95 threads for your specific creation/creations.
I am focused on All my interactions with all my supported devs, comparing 5+ years of interactions with all those devs on Patreon/SS with my ability to share effectively on all the F95 threads (which vary Quite a bit in terms of toxicity and simple number of pages a dev needs to read through if a dev is to be fully conversant with everything said on those F95 pages).
BTW - I also know some of my devs have left F95 due to the toxicity of their threads - they no longer participate or respond to Anyone on F95 and have told their supporters to use Patreon/SS since they will no longer be involved with the F95 thread for their creation.
If, after reading my description of why I believe my use of Patreon/SS is a better platform for discussion and providing feedback to a dev, you still disagree with me, then we must agree to disagree.
Regardless of our agreements/disagreements, thanks for taking the time to have a bit of a discussion here on this F95 thread.
Cheers!
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Brodie wrote an essayI'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and, instead of believing that you intentionally took me out of context, you were instead, unaware of the content in the other posts that preceded the one you commented on (those posts begin on page 2913).
Let me recap:
* A supporter who is currently paying the dev with $ - AKA an approved means of compensating a dev for their work - is, by definition, Not a freeloader.
* Someone who has never supported the dev with $ or a service approved by the dev is, by definition, a freeloader - AKA taking the work of that dev for free.
* Someone who used to be a supporter (paying the dev with $ and/or services approved by the dev) but is currently taking the work of the dev for free, is a freeloader IMO.
I am in this category and that makes me a freeloader; I am currently taking the work of this dev for free.
IMO - this makes anyone else in this category a freeloader Just like me.
If you want to disagree with my opinion, that's fine.
As I said in my original post (first post, pg. 2913):
Are many people here taking WVM for free? - Yes
I currently fall into this category as well. If/when I feel DB is back on track, I'd be happy to start supporting him as a Patreon once again.
Until I start supporting the dev with either $ or approved services, I remain a freeloader, regardless of my future intent or the dev's future actions.
___________________
Now - we have a difference of opinion about the benefit of using a support platform (Patreon/SS) versus F95 to communicate with a dev:
I believe that I have better and more honest communication with the dev's I support by using both the comment feature and DM feature on Patreon/SS to communicate with them versus attempting to communicate with the devs on F95.
I don't expect the devs I support to wade through a few pages to dozens of pages sorting the wheat from the chaff to find good/valid feedback, particularly the most important kind - the feedback from those who have actual skin in the game - supporters who pay the dev $ in support of their creative efforts.
I believe that your experience is very different than my experience:
You are approaching your experience from a dev perspective about your specific creation/creations And you have chosen to be an active part of discussions on the thread(s) supporting what you create.
I don't know what your creation(s) are, and I have likely never seen the F95 threads for your specific creation/creations.
I am focused on All my interactions with all my supported devs, comparing 5+ years of interactions with all those devs on Patreon/SS with my ability to share effectively on all the F95 threads (which vary Quite a bit in terms of toxicity and simple number of pages a dev needs to read through if a dev is to be fully conversant with everything said on those F95 pages).
BTW - I also know some of my devs have left F95 due to the toxicity of their threads - they no longer participate or respond to Anyone on F95 and have told their supporters to use Patreon/SS since they will no longer be involved with the F95 thread for their creation.
If, after reading my description of why I believe my use of Patreon/SS is a better platform for discussion and providing feedback to a dev, you still disagree with me, then we must agree to disagree.
Regardless of our agreements/disagreements, thanks for taking the time to have a bit of a discussion here on this F95 thread.
Cheers!