VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B3] [Braindrop]

[Dankmemer]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and, instead of believing that you intentionally took me out of context, you were instead, unaware of the content in the other posts that preceded the one you commented on (those posts begin on page 2913).

Let me recap:

* A supporter who is currently paying the dev with $ - AKA an approved means of compensating a dev for their work - is, by definition, Not a freeloader.

* Someone who has never supported the dev with $ or a service approved by the dev is, by definition, a freeloader - AKA taking the work of that dev for free.

* Someone who used to be a supporter (paying the dev with $ and/or services approved by the dev) but is currently taking the work of the dev for free, is a freeloader IMO.

I am in this category and that makes me a freeloader; I am currently taking the work of this dev for free.

IMO - this makes anyone else in this category a freeloader Just like me.

If you want to disagree with my opinion, that's fine.

As I said in my original post (first post, pg. 2913):

Are many people here taking WVM for free? - Yes

I currently fall into this category as well. If/when I feel DB is back on track, I'd be happy to start supporting him as a Patreon once again.

Until I start supporting the dev with either $ or approved services, I remain a freeloader, regardless of my future intent or the dev's future actions.
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Now - we have a difference of opinion about the benefit of using a support platform (Patreon/SS) versus F95 to communicate with a dev:

I believe that I have better and more honest communication with the dev's I support by using both the comment feature and DM feature on Patreon/SS to communicate with them versus attempting to communicate with the devs on F95.

I don't expect the devs I support to wade through a few pages to dozens of pages sorting the wheat from the chaff to find good/valid feedback, particularly the most important kind - the feedback from those who have actual skin in the game - supporters who pay the dev $ in support of their creative efforts.

I believe that your experience is very different than my experience:

You are approaching your experience from a dev perspective about your specific creation/creations And you have chosen to be an active part of discussions on the thread(s) supporting what you create.

I don't know what your creation(s) are, and I have likely never seen the F95 threads for your specific creation/creations.

I am focused on All my interactions with all my supported devs, comparing 5+ years of interactions with all those devs on Patreon/SS with my ability to share effectively on all the F95 threads (which vary Quite a bit in terms of toxicity and simple number of pages a dev needs to read through if a dev is to be fully conversant with everything said on those F95 pages).

BTW - I also know some of my devs have left F95 due to the toxicity of their threads - they no longer participate or respond to Anyone on F95 and have told their supporters to use Patreon/SS since they will no longer be involved with the F95 thread for their creation.

If, after reading my description of why I believe my use of Patreon/SS is a better platform for discussion and providing feedback to a dev, you still disagree with me, then we must agree to disagree.

Regardless of our agreements/disagreements, thanks for taking the time to have a bit of a discussion here on this F95 thread.

Cheers!

no ones reading all that, gl or w/e

 

[Loxxxthenasty]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and, instead of believing that you intentionally took me out of context, you were instead, unaware of the content in the other posts that preceded the one you commented on (those posts begin on page 2913).

Let me recap:

* A supporter who is currently paying the dev with $ - AKA an approved means of compensating a dev for their work - is, by definition, Not a freeloader.

* Someone who has never supported the dev with $ or a service approved by the dev is, by definition, a freeloader - AKA taking the work of that dev for free.

* Someone who used to be a supporter (paying the dev with $ and/or services approved by the dev) but is currently taking the work of the dev for free, is a freeloader IMO.

I am in this category and that makes me a freeloader; I am currently taking the work of this dev for free.

IMO - this makes anyone else in this category a freeloader Just like me.

If you want to disagree with my opinion, that's fine.

As I said in my original post (first post, pg. 2913):

Are many people here taking WVM for free? - Yes

I currently fall into this category as well. If/when I feel DB is back on track, I'd be happy to start supporting him as a Patreon once again.

Until I start supporting the dev with either $ or approved services, I remain a freeloader, regardless of my future intent or the dev's future actions.
___________________

Now - we have a difference of opinion about the benefit of using a support platform (Patreon/SS) versus F95 to communicate with a dev:

I believe that I have better and more honest communication with the dev's I support by using both the comment feature and DM feature on Patreon/SS to communicate with them versus attempting to communicate with the devs on F95.

I don't expect the devs I support to wade through a few pages to dozens of pages sorting the wheat from the chaff to find good/valid feedback, particularly the most important kind - the feedback from those who have actual skin in the game - supporters who pay the dev $ in support of their creative efforts.

I believe that your experience is very different than my experience:

You are approaching your experience from a dev perspective about your specific creation/creations And you have chosen to be an active part of discussions on the thread(s) supporting what you create.

I don't know what your creation(s) are, and I have likely never seen the F95 threads for your specific creation/creations.

I am focused on All my interactions with all my supported devs, comparing 5+ years of interactions with all those devs on Patreon/SS with my ability to share effectively on all the F95 threads (which vary Quite a bit in terms of toxicity and simple number of pages a dev needs to read through if a dev is to be fully conversant with everything said on those F95 pages).

BTW - I also know some of my devs have left F95 due to the toxicity of their threads - they no longer participate or respond to Anyone on F95 and have told their supporters to use Patreon/SS since they will no longer be involved with the F95 thread for their creation.

If, after reading my description of why I believe my use of Patreon/SS is a better platform for discussion and providing feedback to a dev, you still disagree with me, then we must agree to disagree.

Regardless of our agreements/disagreements, thanks for taking the time to have a bit of a discussion here on this F95 thread.

Cheers!

Ehhh!!???

 

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one question is a incest route ou patch in the game (sex with azel, wendy, and sister)?

 

[Shawnchapp]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and, instead of believing that you intentionally took me out of context, you were instead, unaware of the content in the other posts that preceded the one you commented on (those posts begin on page 2913).

I'm not going to go over everything and all the posts because its irrelevant to what MommyButtSlut said and was replying to I'll break it down the implication at first was "everyone complaining is a freeloader" Mommybuttslut was merely pointing out thats simple not true, no on is arguing with that there is indeed freeloader the only point they were making is NOT everyone here is and its disingenuous it say all of the complainers are freeloaders (some posts were deleted apparently so i cant read them but this convo started on page 2912 not 2913) the OP is the person that started the "everyone here is a freeloader and a complainer" thats the only issue people are having


as to the rest of your post that just personally preference really.. and no one is saying a dev has to be here thats up to them but if a big part of the sub base comes from here and the dev decides to alienate them well thats on them if they lose subs over it.

People just generally like using third party sources instead for many reason
1, Dev can't delete the bad reviews/posts,
2, Dev can't censor anything (cause they have no power to)

So most devs discord and patron pages just becomes and echo chamber to the point where some devs mods literally ban/kick anyone who says anything that isn't just praising and kissing the devs asshole, and that is what most people don't like its that simple... Now im not saying every dev does that but the few that do have spoiled it for the rest


its kool if you like interacting on patron but most people simple don't like lets look at BD's patron. he averages about 20 comments per post out over 3,000 subs thats pretty bad, thats 0.66~% interaction out of subs... this thread got double that in only 24 hours... people just perfer a platform like this over patron when it comes to discussing. Agian i'm not saying a dev has to be here or anything but it is quite clear that more people would/will interact here more so then on patron.

 

[Harem4life]

Any girl who fucks an another dick, optional or not, isn't an LI material for me.

Even though it's 'optional' it's still Jamie doing it. This shows that she's ready to fuck some other dick under some conditions. It affects her character.

If there's anyone who still thinks she's innocent because MC asked her to fuck, just ask your girl if she would fuck someone for you. If she's DTF that's your sign for running away from your girl AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

 

[Phenim]

both Shauna's story is pretty much the exact same just a few different renders whenever shes naked and minor text changes during sex scene

With the week one rework the backstories for female/trans Shawna are supposed to be different/make a little more sense per route. I wasn't sure how much of/if any difference there was in the season 2 dialog.

 

[Phenim]

Any girl who fucks an another dick, optional or not, isn't an LI material for me.

Even though it's 'optional' it's still Jamie doing it. This shows that she's ready to fuck some other dick under some conditions. It affects her character.

If there's anyone who still thinks she's innocent because MC asked her to fuck, just ask your girl if she would fuck someone for you. If she's DTF that's your sign for running away from your girl AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

Eh, to each there own, in this situation the biggest factor is that they are all in a relationship together.
And the biggest question- are you ok with Jaime doing things with female Shawna?
They are all in a willing relationship, if you're ok with them interacting on one route but not another (genitals aside) you're a hypocrite.

 

[Harem4life]

are you ok with Jaime doing things with female Shawna?

Not really. I can give it a pass if it's upto the players to allow some lesbian action. Lesbian scenes doesn't do anything for me. I can still see why it can be 'hot' for some people.

Seeing a girl getting fucked by an another dick is also 'hot' for some people but then they ain't the target audience.

They are all in a willing relationship, if you're ok with them interacting on one route but not another (genitals aside) you're a hypocrite.

How am I an hypocrite? Just because I don't like dicks? A dick is a dick even if it belongs to a futa. I don't want a dick anywhere near my girls. I don't want a girl who is ready to fuck an another dick. Optional or not.

Do I really need to tell you how dick is different from a pussy?

 

[Shawnchapp]

With the week one rework the backstories for female/trans Shawna are supposed to be different/male a little more sense per route. I wasn't sure how much of/if any difference there was in the season 2 dialog.

the problem with that even if week 1 actually gets done week 2 still isn't going to make much sense unless he redoes week 2 as well, So im betting her story isn't really going to change at all besides what is now, 1 or 3 different render per scene and a few text changes here an there.. which is fine and makes sense other wise he'd be writing 2 completely different characters for the same "girl" which that time can go else where IMHO Shaunas fine just being a penis on off switch, don't really need to have separate story's for her.

 

[yuzuyo]

Any girl who fucks an another dick, optional or not, isn't an LI material for me.

Even though it's 'optional' it's still Jamie doing it. This shows that she's ready to fuck some other dick under some conditions. It affects her character.

If there's anyone who still thinks she's innocent because MC asked her to fuck, just ask your girl if she would fuck someone for you. If she's DTF that's your sign for running away from your girl AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

Imagine having the name "harem4life", coming into a harem game and chimping out because the girls in your harem interacted when you asked. Well, feel free to get angy, you won't be able to avoid Jamie and that scene will live rent free in your head.

Little observation: since you're so invested, I'll point out that WVM is not real life. You'll never have an actual harem. Stop trying to give advice, no one's trying to emulate a pornographic video game. It's fiction.

 

[Phenim]

Not really. I can give it a pass if it's upto the players to allow some lesbian action. Lesbian scenes doesn't do anything for me. I can still see why it can be 'hot' for some people.

Seeing a girl getting fucked by an another dick is also 'hot' for some people but then they ain't the target audience.

How am I an hypocrite? Just because I don't like dicks? A dick is a dick even if it belongs to a futa. I don't want a dick anywhere near my girls. I don't want a girl who is ready to fuck an another dick. Optional or not.

Do I really need to tell you how dick is different from a pussy?

I wasn't specifically calling you a hypocrite. It was a general statement dependant of your answer to the question.
Genitals is a preference. If you'd rather that none of your girls have a penis that's fine, that's your preference.
Although, if you are in an agreed group relationship and you don't allow the other members to do things with each other, that does make you selfish.

 

[Dankmemer]

Imagine having the name "harem4life", coming into a harem game and chimping out because the girls in your harem interacted when you asked. Well, feel free to get angy, you won't be able to avoid Jamie and that scene will live rent free in your head.

Little observation: since you're so invested, I'll point out that WVM is not real life. You'll never have an actual harem. Stop trying to give advice, no one's trying to emulate a pornographic video game. It's fiction.

Shhh, dont point that out to him, he's insecure enough already.

 

[yourmomma]

There is a trans banging all the chicks now? This game suddenly got interesting.

I will never not be amused watching you dopes spurg out over things that don't really effect you, with lengthy essays lol

 

[Undead92]

the problem with that even if week 1 actually gets done week 2 still isn't going to make much sense unless he redoes week 2 as well, So im betting her story isn't really going to change at all besides what is now, 1 or 3 different render per scene and a few text changes here an there.. which is fine and makes sense other wise he'd be writing 2 completely different characters for the same "girl" which that time can go else where IMHO Shaunas fine just being a penis on off switch, don't really need to have separate story's for her.

im not going into your discusssion, just a quick question. this sounds like S 1 is still not reworked, so there is still a hole between the old few days S1 content and then the leap to day 30 something S 2 new shit?
Is there any work on the way to fix this or are all updates just continuation of S 2?

 

[Nurikabe]

im not going into your discusssion, just a quick question. this sounds like S 1 is still not reworked, so there is still a hole between the old few days S1 content and then the leap to day 30 something S 2 new shit?
Is there any work on the way to fix this or are all updates just continuation of S 2?

It seems like there is some rework of the older chapters. His dev log goes into specifics.
From what I see, the updates offer new content. There may be some stuff in the update that patches old content along the way. I have only done a full replay once. There were changes made.
I know that is not specifics that may help you. Sorry about that.

 

[Eticketjedi]

im not going into your discusssion, just a quick question. this sounds like S 1 is still not reworked, so there is still a hole between the old few days S1 content and then the leap to day 30 something S 2 new shit?
Is there any work on the way to fix this or are all updates just continuation of S 2?

Story wise it has zero bearing on anything. There is no hole in the story or timeline. He just shifted what the days were called. It goes from day 10 to 30 or something close to that but there is no gap in the narrative.

 

[EJW]

Story wise it has zero bearing on anything. There is no hole in the story or timeline. He just shifted what the days were called. It goes from day 10 to 30 or something close to that but there is no gap in the narrative.

So, has he explained who the old lady is in the restaurant? Because when I played the s1 then went to s2 went to have breakfast and the old lady acted like we know each other, and it was the first time I saw her.

 

[johnmnf692]

Stop acting like the problem is about characterization. It's not. There's something you don't like and you're moaning just because of that, despite said thing being just an option. It's a fucking pornographic game, it IS about fetishes, you're sperging out because it's not what you're into.

>Make 1 post: "You're sperging out"

Okay, guy. Of course the game is about fetishes, but it's specifically not about the fetish where someone else fucks your girl. Throughout the entire game it's reiterated that the MC will never share like that, Jamie specifically says that the MC is the only person she ever wants to be with. Part of the problem absolutely is about characterization because the girls were characterized in that way to fit into a game with a harem. Ultimately, while it is slightly obnoxious, it doesn't bother me that much because under no circumstances would I ever play the trans route anyway.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Ultimately, while it is slightly obnoxious, it doesn't bother me that much because under no circumstances would I ever play the trans route anyway.

Obviously if you're saying this.

It's obviously just being forced in as a fetish thing, which is of course what the trans route has been since the beginning.

Until season 2 the trans route was objectively better written than the cis route. So much of Shauna makes no sense of the cis route, and playing through the trans route after all of a sudden everything makes sense with her. If anything the cis route was tacked on to double dip with people not into trans content, although the season 2 writing has improved cis Shauna quite a bit.

Now for what it's worth I disagree with your point regarding Jamie Shauna specifically. The Jamie Shauna lesbian route has really just been them exploring their friendship in a new way that also excites the MC. The latest update makes it pretty clear that Shauna is into it too, I won't spoil it but the lesbian scene is very reminiscent of the gazebo scene except with Jamie making her cum instead of the MC.
Also there's quite a bit of difference between someone fucking your girl, and one of your girlfriends fucking your other girlfriend with you. Dislike the trans content all you want, but that's not what those scenes are about.

Otherwise I do kind of agree in general. I pretty well always go for the lesbian path in harem games but the Bailey Rain bit, Bailey made it way too clear way too many times that she wasn't into Rain like that that the start of the path just felt like soulless fetish fulfillment to me. Like the only reason she'd go for it is to please her boyfriend. Maybe the next bit with them will be better in which case I'll change the variable for that but otherwise I feel like BD wrote himself into a corner trying not to piss of lesbian haters for the lesbian route with those two to feel genuine.

 

[Nurikabe]

Otherwise I do kind of agree in general. I pretty well always go for the lesbian path in harem games but the Bailey Rain bit, Bailey made it way too clear way too many times that she wasn't into Rain like that that the start of the path just felt like soulless fetish fulfillment to me. Like the only reason she'd go for it is to please her boyfriend. Maybe the next bit with them will be better in which case I'll change the variable for that but otherwise I feel like BD wrote himself into a corner trying not to piss of lesbian haters for the lesbian route with those two to feel genuine.

I'm glad you brought this point up and really appreciate it. I know Rainn is totally into Bailey. Bailey is clearly trying to not offend Rainn. I would hope that giving the option for them to be together would be about the story, not simply a bullshit attempt to feed fetish fiends. I guess it doesn't matter. He is going to do what he is going to do. People will take offense or applaud him either way.

What I am trying to say is it would be nice to know that there is a grand scheme to the story. A direction. It would seem like offering Bailey and Rainn together is a way of pulling Rainn, a lesbian, into going for the MC. Hell, I don't know.