VN Ren'Py Yesterday's Crossroads [Ch.3 v0.4.0a] [CHAQUINN0]

[flaviopaganini]

I think it depends on each update / chapter. While I personally don't feel like she was pushed too much I can see why you think so. Then in the recent update a different LI is pushed onto the MC more for that update.

I understand Michelle's case because she has been in love with the MC since her youth. I would say she's like a stalker who is after us. It's likely that she heard from someone that the MC was single and then started pursuing him.

 

[Justaphase]

I understand Michelle's case because she has been in love with the MC since her youth. I would say she's like a stalker who is after us. It's likely that she heard from someone that the MC was single and then started pursuing him.

I think in love is a bit of a stretch personally, she didn't really know the MC. From what we've seen so far they barely interacted as kids, I think its more of a crush and she was upset that her sister slept with her crush.

 

[flaviopaganini]

I think in love is a bit of a stretch personally, she didn't really know the MC. From what we've seen so far they barely interacted as kids, I think its more of a crush and she was upset that her sister slept with her crush.

You are completely right; I ended up writing it incorrectly and forgot that I could use the word 'Crush,' which would better define her feeling.

 

[sagerock820]

It's strange you felt that way, because I felt like the Julia relationship was pushed too early. I mean, you can't even ask Olivia, Candace and Alessa out on a date until this chapter and I bet you won't see any interaction with Keyla until at least two more.

I had one opportunity to pursue Julia, I've had many for Michelle. There was one scene with Julia, when she expressed how she felt about him to someone. With Michelle, there have been a number of scenes of friends with or without Michelle expressing how much she loves him, how she seems to be in better spirits because of MC, 'don't let him go', 'they look so good together', etc. It seemed to be very Michelle heavy.

Personally, I have nothing against Michelle. But if I'm forced to choose just one, I don't like having an LI I chose not to pursue, pushed on me over and over again. Also don't make me feel bad for not pursuing one LI over another. I liked how Kim was handled better when I chose not to reunite with her.

I'm going after Keyla and have only had a few scenes with her so far. I am still in the middle of the latest update. Anyway, just my experience/opinion so far.

 

[ImSenjou]

I also see Michelle this way, the game seems to want me to feel pity for her, that she needs me and that I should feel guilty for choosing someone else and not her, as it was said, this happened in scenes with Michelle and in scenes without her.

Even Alessa feels bad about her interest in MC, feeling like she's taking him away from her (her words), and Tasha is basically blacklisted because of Michelle.

It's not so forced that it makes me dislike Michelle, but she's not even in my TOP 3.

 

[sagerock820]

Thank you, exactly how I felt. Again, I don't dislike her. I just don't like how she was handled.

 

[Tremonia]

I just started playing recently. Dev really likes pushing Michelle on the MC, doesn't he?

Doesn't felt like that to me. I know what you mean but it happens in real life to we met people with lot of baggage on their shoulder and it's not like we're forced to like everyone of them.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I just started playing recently. Dev really likes pushing Michelle on the MC, doesn't he?

Doesn't felt like that to me. I know what you mean but it happens in real life to we met people with lot of baggage on their shoulder and it's not like we're forced to like everyone of them.

I agree I'm doing a Kimberly-only playthrough

and I don't really feel like any character is forced on me

I mean yes you have to interact with certain characters at certain times but that's life

especially for work but it's not like the game is forcing you to become best friends

and the game is definitely not forcing you to be romantic in any way with anyone

 

[Dessolos]

and the game is definitely not forcing you to be romantic in any way with anyone

idk the game is kind of forcing me to be with Michelle and Julia because they have stolen my heart and it would be a cardinal sin to not give them each a solo path save . Joking aside I wonder how Michelle is gonna handle things when she comes to the realization the MC is with someone else and not into her on other paths. Not just cause she has a crush but she seems fragile to me.

 

[sagerock820]

I didn't say forced, I said pushed. Forced to me would mean no choice. I just feel like she is being pushed in front of me, more so than any other character. I turned down Julia once and that was it. I turn away from Michelle and yet, a potential relationship with her keeps popping up. She's handled differently than the other LIs.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I didn't say forced, I said pushed. Forced to me would mean no choice. I just feel like she is being pushed in front of me, more so than any other character. I turned down Julia once and that was it. I turn away from Michelle and yet, a potential relationship with her keeps popping up. She's handled differently than the other LIs.

I see brother I never noticed it because I only pay attention to Kimberly

but I will have to play the game from the beginning at some point

again so I'll try to pay attention more next time

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

idk the game is kind of forcing me to be with Michelle and Julia because they have stolen my heart and it would be a cardinal sin to not give them each a solo path save . Joking aside I wonder how Michelle is gonna handle things when she comes to the realization the MC is with someone else and not into her on other paths. Not just cause she has a crush but she seems fragile to me.

in my play through as long as you make it clear to the other girls that you're not interested they shouldn't be upset at all

maybe a little disappointed but not upset

however if you're playing the game and being too friendly I can see how they get the wrong idea

 

[Dessolos]

I didn't say forced, I said pushed. Forced to me would mean no choice. I just feel like she is being pushed in front of me, more so than any other character. I turned down Julia once and that was it. I turn away from Michelle and yet, a potential relationship with her keeps popping up. She's handled differently than the other LIs.

you had me curious so I did speed run to turn her down and only saw 1 choice for turning Michelle down. The only other choices after that were to call her on your trip. At least that's all that I saw on my speed run maybe more come up if I had different branching for the speed run.

While I dont feel the same as you I can understand why it feels like that to you and other people. Since she has the most scenes and deveolopment so far , i'm assuming the dev wanted to spend extra time on her deveolopment since she seems to be the most broken character.

Tho I don't think it's a bad thing to keep it as a open possibility at least one more time because realistically by time the choice comes up to turn her down or not at the party I still didn't feel like I knew her enough to really make the decision. I only knew I was interested enough to find out more about her. Now yeah might be enough for some players by then because they dont want to deal with a broken character. So yeah I do get why it should be done and over with if you dont kiss her.

However I do also think it does make sense to leave it open as one more chance to get on her path or not, since we are clearly going to be helping her with some issues in the future. So I can see in that alone leading to some more mixed feeling for her later when the MC helps her out. So to me it would make sense for her to make some kind of move or something after the MC helps her some more with her where the MC has a choice of doubling down and making it clear he only sees her as a friend or something more.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

you had me curious so I did speed run to turn her down and only saw 1 choice for turning Michelle down. The only other choices after that were to call her on your trip. At least that's all that I saw on my speed run maybe more come up if I had different branching for the speed run.

While I dont feel the same as you I can understand why it feels like that to you and other people. Since she has the most scenes and deveolopment so far , i'm assuming the dev wanted to spend extra time on her deveolopment since she seems to be the most broken character.

Tho I don't think it's a bad thing to keep it as a open possibility at least one more time because realistically by time the choice comes up to turn her down or not at the party I still didn't feel like I knew her enough to really make the decision. I only knew I was interested enough to find out more about her. Now yeah might be enough for some players by then because they dont want to deal with a broken character. So yeah I do get why it should be done and over with if you dont kiss her.

However I do also think it does make sense to leave it open as one more chance to get on her path or not, since we are clearly going to be helping her with some issues in the future. So I can see in that alone leading to some more mixed feeling for her later when the MC helps her out. So to me it would make sense for her to make some kind of move or something after the MC helps her some more with her where the MC has a choice of doubling down and making it clear he only sees her as a friend or something more.

for me I know immediately when I like a girl or not if I don't feel the spark

so I'm always grateful when a game gives me the opportunity to friendzone her early

but I don't mind spending time with a character just as a friend and helping them out

as long as it's nothing romantic and I don't like it when I reject the character

and they can't take the hint and they keep trying to get romantic

 

[Dessolos]

for me I know immediately when I like a girl or not if I don't feel the spark

so I'm always grateful when a game gives me the opportunity to friendzone her early

but I don't mind spending time with a character just as a friend and helping them out

as long as it's nothing romantic and I don't like it when I reject the character

and they can't take the hint and they keep trying to get romantic

yeah for me it depends on the character if I know I like them right away. Some I do , other take time and then there are others I dislike but grow to like later. Yeah I feel you about being able to friendzone earlier or when they can't take a hint I do think it depends on the context however if it is a negative. At least in Michelle's case it was more the MC didn't make a move by kissing her so while she probably thinks the MC isn't interested he never straight up denied her either. So if we get another chance to get on her path it isn't like she didn't get the hint. But if they don't get hint especially when a MC is clear that is when it's a problem.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

yeah for me it depends on the character if I know I like them right away. Some I do , other take time and then there are others I dislike but grow to like later. Yeah I feel you about being able to friendzone earlier or when they can't take a hint I do think it depends on the context however if it is a negative. At least in Michelle's case it was more the MC didn't make a move by kissing her so while she probably thinks the MC isn't interested he never straight up denied her either. So if we get another chance to get on her path it isn't like she didn't get the hint. But if they don't get hint especially when a MC is clear that is when it's a problem.

yes and I don't know if you agree brother but I absolutely love

that we get to pick our girl and start an actual relationship early

and it's an actual boyfriend-girlfriend relationship

none of this Friends with Benefits bullshit



I absolutely hated in other games when they only became our girlfriend at the end and then rolled the credits

and we never get to enjoy an actual relationship

in my opinion, that's when the relationship gets interesting like how they are going to make it work

and I can't wait to see them make it to their wedding day

and having a family and all that

 

[Dessolos]

yes and I don't know if you agree brother but I absolutely love

that we get to pick our girl and start an actual relationship early

and it's an actual boyfriend-girlfriend relationship

none of this Friends with Benefits bullshit



I absolutely hated in other games when they only became our girlfriend at the end and then rolled the credits

and we never get to enjoy an actual relationship

in my opinion, that's when the relationship gets interesting like how they are going to make it work

and I can't wait to see them make it to their wedding day

and having a family and all that

100% honestly I wish more LI would feel like an actual girlfriend than a LI to me and yeah nothing better than getting in the relationship early on in these games imo. Yeah I hate Friends with Benefits might as well be a side girl to me if I can't have a actual relationship but they just a FWB. It's one thing if it starts out as a FWB and develops into more later but don't let it last to long or it will suck cause I want to build a real relationship with them sooner than later. one of my favorite character I refuse to play her FWB path only her romance path much later.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

100% honestly I wish more LI would feel like an actual girlfriend than a LI to me and yeah nothing better than getting in the relationship early on in these games imo. Yeah I hate Friends with Benefits might as well be a side girl to me if I can't have a actual relationship but they just a FWB. It's one thing if it starts out as a FWB and develops into more later but don't let it last to long or it will suck cause I want to build a real relationship with them sooner than later. one of my favorite character I refuse to play her FWB path only her romance path much later.

yes exactly and wild technically nothing is official between me and Kimberly

it's obvious that she is my girlfriend and we probably going to have that conversation very soon

but I don't think we even need to have that conversation because I'm not with anyone else

I mean there's even a part where Kimberly brings up children

so yeah for me we are already down that road

 

[Dessolos]

yes exactly and wild technically nothing is official between me and Kimberly

it's obvious that she is my girlfriend and we probably going to have that conversation very soon

but I don't think we even need to have that conversation because I'm not with anyone else

I mean there's even a part where Kimberly brings up children

so yeah for me we are already down that road

While Kimberly isn't a top pick for me I really looking forward to her path , it's one of the better ones for sure.

 

[Maviarab]

Also not seeing this pushed Michelle content either personally. No more than Julia or Kim and it's also easier to stop her rpomance dead compared to some others.

I think it's character bias in all honesty....as just not seeing it myself.