VN Ren'Py Yesterday's Crossroads - Chapter 2 [v0.3.1] [CHAQUINN0]

[lorkdubo]

Do fucking cellphones and the internet not exist suddenly? She didn't move to Jupiter, she moved to Buffalo, she didn't even leave the state! Keyla literally said she wanted the MC to be her one and only, yet she couldn't just wait until college to reunite with him, which was at most 2 years away? That's braindead.

The audience feels disconnected from the MC when he does things we didn't even have control of, so no one cares. Also, the MC betrayed Zeke, not Keyla. Additionally, players can choose to pursue Keyla, you're stuck with the MC one way or another.

Keyla didn't tell the MC that Kim was going to leave or why she was going to leave/why she left, even after she was already gone. Those are betrayals, which Keyla admits.

As Dev explained, she went to Japan for 3 years and then returned to Buffalo, where she encountered Zeke during the holidays between ending high school and starting college. If she had waited 3 more months, she could have had MC. It is what it is.

 

[johnmnf692]

She moved to a diff country. Have you even actually played this and read the actual words. I know reading is difficult for some folk but really...

She had been gone years...you expect kids to hang around that long with no guarantee of ever seeing each other again? Really? And the MC moved on first btw....

You're just a fucking troll at this point obviously...on the list.

First of all, As far as I recall, there is nothing about her moving to a different country in the game. Maybe it says it on her route, but I don't care about her route, because she stinks. Either way, she explicitly says that she wants the MC to be her one and only, yet she couldn't wait a few years, if she was serious, that wouldn't have been a problem. She would have made a greater effort to get back to the one she loved, or made any effort at all. Especially since she apparently didn't do anything until she came back to America anyway, when she had ample opportunity to get back in touch with the MC.

"The MC moved on first" Which we had no control over. There is an inherent disconnect between the MC making choices which we do and don't have control over. You want the player to be punished/held responsible for something outside of their control, that's fucking stupid.

No one cares about your "list", what are you 12?

 

[Dessolos]

Hey, everyone!

I see the timeline seems a bit confusing for the time being, especially since the many dialogues addressing the past haven’t been totally introduced to the game itself yet.
It is simple but quite extensive though. We need to go back a few years before the game's prologue in order to understand it thoroughly.

Before turning this story into an AVN, I wrote it as sort of a book for my own life's experiences and adapted it for the game's story, the following is a summarized timeline of the prologue chapter of the book.

Keep in mind that there are no specific days, months or years in some of these events, but they are in the order as they happened.

Spoiler: Timeline

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Thank you for this , still have a bit dislike for Keyla hiding the reason why Kim left but not hiding the fact she was leaving. ( assuming im not miss remembering anything) But this post kind of makes me like Keyla a bit more than I did, as I forgot alot about her and the timeline. But yeah she is more complicated than I remember now. I never disliked her for cheating I knew she had feeling but reading this it makes alot more sense and I find it harder to blame her for it even if it's a shitty thing to do. Maybe I will play her path next update after my main girls.

 

[johnmnf692]

As Dev explained, she went to Japan for 3 years and then returned to Buffalo, where she encountered Zeke during the holidays between ending high school and starting college. If she had waited 3 more months, she could have had MC. It is what it is.

I agree, it is what it is, but what it is, is that she's worthless as a LI.

 

[lorkdubo]

Thank you for this , still have a bit dislike for Keyla hiding the reason why Kim left but not hiding the fact she was leaving. ( assuming im not miss remembering anything) But this post kind of makes me like Keyla a bit more than I did, as I forgot alot about her and the timeline. But yeah she is more complicated than I remember now. I never disliked her for cheating I knew she had feeling but reading this it makes alot more sense and I find it harder to blame her for it even if it's a shitty thing to do. Maybe I will play her path next update after my main girls.

I think what will define how people feel about worse Kim is if her father is actually a menace, which i can only envision if he is a Chaebol, aka Mr. Big Bucks. But... that also clashes with the lifestyle of worse Kim, as she doesn't appear wealthy and also worked a menial job while in South Korea. If he is only kinda wealthy, or middle-class, it will be really hard to like worse Kim for fearing a paper tiger.

 

[Dessolos]

I think what will define how people feel about worse Kim is if her father is actually a menace, which i can only envision if he is a Chaebol, aka Mr. Big Bucks. But... that also clashes with the lifestyle of worse Kim, as she doesn't appear wealthy and also worked a menial job while in South Korea. If he is only kinda wealthy, or middle-class, it will be really hard to like worse Kim for fearing a paper tiger.

yeah I have a hard time believing her father has any real power or anything tbh. While I find Kim's reason acceptable if it's true but until it's proven true yeah.... I just got a feeling her father is going to be some big shot gangster with no real power but enough for Kim to fear.

 

[Maviarab]

I think what will define how people feel about worse Kim is if her father is actually a menace, which i can only envision if he is a Chaebol, aka Mr. Big Bucks. But... that also clashes with the lifestyle of worse Kim, as she doesn't appear wealthy and also worked a menial job while in South Korea. If he is only kinda wealthy, or middle-class, it will be really hard to like worse Kim for fearing a paper tiger.

yeah I have a hard time believing her father has any real power or anything tbh. While I find Kim's reason acceptable if it's true but until it's proven true yeah.... I just got a feeling her father is going to be some big shot gangster with no real power but enough for Kim to fear.

Unless he part of the Japok or Kkgangpae then he is a nothing and anything Kim thinks just makes her a delusional idiot for thinking her father has any sway in the States or he going to come over and perform some type of hit on the MC. It's just ridiculous.

Even if her father was a member of the criminal underground in korea (which does have operations in the States) it's still a hell of a stretch, based purely on what she has seen towards herself and her sister.

 

[motseer]

Hey, everyone!

I see the timeline seems a bit confusing for the time being, especially since the many dialogues addressing the past haven’t been totally introduced to the game itself yet.
It is simple but quite extensive though. We need to go back a few years before the game's prologue in order to understand it thoroughly.

Before turning this story into an AVN, I wrote it as sort of a book for my own life's experiences and adapted it for the game's story, the following is a summarized timeline of the prologue chapter of the book.

Keep in mind that there are no specific days, months or years in some of these events, but they are in the order as they happened.

Spoiler: Timeline

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Thank you for this. It is very helpful. I've just finished a re-read of the prologue and started chapter 1. My first read was waaaaaay back when just the prologue existed. I had read the updates but as a continuation... and now realize there has been some reworking during the process that I had missed. I'm remembering some familiar parts and have noticed some changes. All in all, between your post and the new prologue it is much easier to have a sense of the personalities involved and their motivations. Having said all that... I think it will be likely that my MC will be looking for a fresh start for a relationship. So far both Olivia and Julia look like terrific candidates.

 

[Maviarab]

I think it will be likely that my MC will be looking for a fresh start for a relationship. So far Michelle looks like a terrific candidate.

Completely agree Mots!

 

[Dessolos]

lol I can never decide who I like more Michelle or Julia I kind of like both equally

 

[motseer]

Completely agree Mots!

Hehe... Well you could be right. You often are. But, I haven't gotten to her yet and I'm trying to treat this like a first read at this point. There have been some significant changes...

 

[Maviarab]

lol I can never decide who I like more Michelle or Julia I kind of like both equally

Michelle of course...silly Des.

 

[motseer]

Michelle of course...silly Des.

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Or...

 

[Maviarab]

Or...
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Yeah when she finds out you don't have a big rocket propelled helicopter she be outta there faster than you can say Santini.

 

[Hengat]

That's a very helpful timeline. I guess Keyla, Zeke and MC all deserve each other. What a tragic human beings. I was defending Keyla before, hoping that she didn't fucked up so bad but after this revelation now all I can say is that she's really stupid. How the hell can you marry someone you don't want to be with because you're afraid of breaking their heart?

 

[motseer]

Yeah when she finds out you don't have a big rocket propelled helicopter she be outta there faster than you can say Santini.

Who says I don't?

 

[xCalon]

Completely agree Mots!

Hey, hey, bring Olivia back... hm, maybe not, give me Olivia instead.

 

[Maviarab]

Hey, hey, bring Olivia back... hm, maybe not, give me Olivia instead.

Olivia is lovely I agree, but Michelle tops her out of the two hehe.

 

[risky0]

No, she is definitely not a victim, she could have broken up with Zeke directly instead of agreeing to take a break with him because in fact she didn't like Zeke anymore from the first moment she saw Mc again and she wanted to be with Mc again.

Mc still has strong feelings for Keyla at this stage. If Keyla had broken up with Zeke at that moment, it is likely that Keyla and Mc would have gotten back together.

I think one of the most important points here is why she agreed to take a break instead of breaking up with him directly.
(I still don't understand this situation. Why???)

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Keyla accepted Zeke's marriage proposal so as not to break his heart at that moment. My idea is that Keyla would later reject Zeke in a proper way, but her family found out and pressured her to marry Zeke. Meanwhile, seeing that Mc and Kim got along well, Keyla became increasingly desperate and married Zeke, hoping that maybe she could somehow forget Mc.

Keyla threw Mc into Kim's arms with her own hands.

Keyla was never a victim, she was just a fool.
No victim has a choice.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for Keyla and after what we have learned I realize how right we were to dislike her.

And people are making Zeke the bad guy for cheating on Keyla, put yourself in Zeke's shoes. Your wife doesn't love you, you're in an unhappy marriage and every time your wife spreads her legs for you she's actually fantasizing about MC instead of you. And what's more painful is that you're probably aware of this because Zeke is telling MC something about how Keyla looks at him.
Zeke is the most innocent of the three.

I wasn't planning to give Kim a chance, but after seeing Keyla, I think it's unfair to still call her the worst LI in the game.

One thing I appreciate about the developer is that he tries to make the characters consistent. For example, Alessa didn't suddenly become gay or because Mc wanted her to be gay. Alessa was already curious about being gay from the beginning and when her relationship with Mc ended, she broke her chains and became gay.

Game is pretty good except for a few things, but one of the things that worries me is that if Mc won't be monogamous, will the gay content always be forced like it was with Alessa+Vera?
Is monogamy the only way to avoid gay content?
If this is the case, it greatly reduces the appeal of the game for me.

 

[Maviarab]

And people are making Zeke the bad guy for cheating on Keyla, put yourself in Zeke's shoes. Your wife doesn't love you, you're in an unhappy marriage and every time your wife spreads her legs for you she's actually fantasizing about MC instead of you. And what's more painful is that you're probably aware of this because Zeke is telling MC something about how Keyla looks at him.

Aww poor BooBoo....

So following in your logic...why didn't Zeke do what you keep reiterating (and blaming her for not) Keyla should have done hmmm?

Just left.

Zeke is the most innocent of the three

I do fucking love it when people have selective bias.