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"Old system" - H-mode via "V" button was temporary decision if I remember correctly. There was no system at all, just grab=>sex. Your "middle ground" changed from "V" key to checkbox in settings. And I can't say it's a lot of grind to level up your sex skills, the only issue is to begin. How much damage you take or how long you need to w8 until you get fucked it's the matter of balance.

You can just play the game by killing enemies and be raped in action few times to "unlock" your path to battle-fucking. Or just cheat your first few times with H-mode then just play without it. As MC don't have any intentions to be fucked by enemies by default and you need to make her to do it. I believe smooth transition to fucking will be achieved when sex with NPC will finally be implemented. This "new" system just a next step in development.
Well which one is faster, more convenient and less tedious, pressing 1 button on keyboard, or pressing ESC and having to navigate your cursor to a tiny spot to click every time? Assuming you weren't fiddling with other settings and it's still on GAMEPLAY? Idk what you're trying to say but if it's something you wanna toggle a lot.. it becomes very tedious after a while.

Just because it was a rudimentary and simple system, doesn't mean it didn't work as a system, and it doesn't mean you are correct to say that there was no system. It was there in the form that it was, and it was better. Maybe when more things get added and changed, the the patch will make more sense. But in a Hgame, a Hgrab is supposed to be less punishing than regular attacks in conventional way, while "corrupting" mc and immersing the player in the feel of guilt for allowing it for the faps . But in this game the grabs now do more damage than normal attacks if you want a sex scene LMAAAAAAAAAO.

The idea was also that once your mental fortitude reached 0, you would be brought to a hive and idk if it was planned to be a game over or just like a temporary setback with penalties, but that part wasn't implemented yet, and you could headcanon it and play taking it into consideration.

Now you take, idk from what I could tell 60-80% damage each time you are grabbed? And I'm not even sure the "Nymph" passive does what I think it does. All I know for sure is that you can grab to start sex without being damaged, but to get to it, you need to allocate points to most of tree.. while taking 60-80% dmg each time, scouting the whole map for pain killers to get 0-3(at best, rarily) sex a day? I'm sorry are you insane, or am I missing something?
 
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Idk what you're trying to say but if it's something you wanna toggle a lot.. it becomes very tedious after a while.
I'm trying to say that if you wanna fap - toggle H-mode and just fap all the time you want. And If you want to actually play the game, invest some time into it, explore - just play it. Get some stats it doesn't take long. You also earn sex exp just by getting out of grabs by spaming Q. Just by clearing two maps in Arena I've made my char to get 13 dmg from full grab leaving me with 177 more hp to go. I've just got fucked in less than 2 minutes after entering arena just by runnin around, what are u playing 6 minutes a day ? There are planty of painkillers in the Hub which u can revisit after every run. And I believe you shouldn't try to play Story for getting sex experience as the last update was focused mainly on Arena mode.

You should either play or fap.

Just because it was a rudimentary and simple system, doesn't mean it didn't work as a system, and it doesn't mean you are correct to say that there was no system.
It was a temporary decision - a placeholder - a thing, meant to be replaced. It's served the same purpose as H-mode in settings: to have a quick way to fap. I just can't see how do u combine "legit" play while using any version of H-mode ?
It's not hard to achieve sex without H-mode - it's just should not be your #1 priority when you are level 1.
 
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May have been temporary, but it was a solid, straightforward system that clearly distinguished the fap from the gameplay. Now it's just kind of the worst of both worlds.
 
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I'm trying to say that if you wanna fap - toggle H-mode and just fap all the time you want. And If you want to actually play the game, invest some time into it, explore - just play it. Get some stats it doesn't take long. You also earn sex exp just by getting out of grabs by spaming Q.
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You should either play or fap.
Exactly what I'm trying to say! There's no more middle ground. Game now pretty much makes you either play very seriously only, or enable Hmode to fap only. There's no more middle ground while playing legit. There's no logical reason you should take so much damage from being grabbed if the simb is horny and just wants to subdue you.
Just by clearing two maps in Arena I've made my char to get 13 dmg from full grab leaving me with 177 more hp to go. I've just got fucked in less than 2 minutes after entering arena just by runnin around, what are u playing 6 minutes a day ? There are planty of painkillers in the Hub which u can revisit after every run.
I didn't know your levels(and loot?) is now shared between arena and story. But I wouldn't use arena as an XP farm either way because I think it's more legit to start from 0 in the story mode. But you can argue that it's on me then. Also can you explain what you mean by "the hub"? I only know that you can force spawn supplies in story mode via repeating side quest, as well as randomly find in the abandoned houses. Sometimes you get lucky or very unlucky with the latter, explore the WHOOOLE accessable map and find just a couple/three medic containers that only have antidepressants and inhalers.
It was a temporary decision - a placeholder - a thing, meant to be replaced. It's served the same purpose as H-mode in settings: to have a quick way to fap. I just can't see how do u combine "legit" play while using any version of H-mode ?
Easy. You would play normally as in legit, and when you decide in your headcanon that it's time for sex, whether it's the beginning with foreplay, or time for progressing to more serious forms of sex, or you really just wanted to fap, you would either "let" yourself get grabbed or instead of trying to bait it, enable h mode to save time.

While gameplay wise sex didn't have any consequences yet, if you had any sense of immersion, you'd feel "guilty" or other emotions for letting your MC get raped which helps against porn desensitization. If you only play games taking only the mechanics at face value, and not using it as a foundation for your own thing, I can see how you can't understand this but I hope I helped you see a different point of view why or how people play Hgames, and why the old system worked so much better for many people.

Also the problem with calling and emphasizing the old system as "themporary, placeholder etc " as an arugment assumes that the corrent system isn't going to be replaces or changed either. I believe at some point the dev didn't even necessarily plan to fully replace the older system, and how can you know he won't do the same with this one? I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's just that it doesn't mean anything and a pointless thing to say in this context.
 
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Yeah, I think "serious" mode at least don't go against basic real life logic now)
God I hope dev'll continue developement without surrender to some popular H-games logic
I'm not sayin' game is totally realistic ofc but "It's all about the details when it comes to making a perfect game"
 

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thanks for the reply. I've also been finding packs as well, yes. Is there a limit to how much she hold in one pack?

Yeah to me irl smoking is so disgusting that I hate it even in fiction((( need a mod to replace cigarette packs with mp3 players and cigarettes with batteries so she listens to emocore and that makes sense to reduce stress :D
Ahah, never found enough sig's to fill a pack, but my real life experience tells me the limit is 20 cigarettes ;)
I do agree 'bout smoking is disgusting... but bein' in very similar to Judi's situation (except rape/sex lol, just UAF infantry sergeant) I'm not sure it's easy to replace cigarettes with something in terms of temporary stress reduction :unsure:
 

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Exactly what I'm trying to say! There's no more middle ground. Game now pretty much makes you either play very seriously only, or enable Hmode to fap only. There's no more middle ground while playing legit. There's no logical reason you should take so much damage from being grabbed if the simb is horny and just wants to subdue you.
I didn't know your levels(and loot?) is now shared between arena and story. But I wouldn't use arena as an XP farm either way because I think it's more legit to start from 0 in the story mode. But you can argue that it's on me then. Also can you explain what you mean by "the hub"? I only you know can force spawn supplies in story mode via quest and randomly find in the abandoned houses. Sometimes you get lucky or very unlucky with the latter, explore the WHOOOLE accessable map and find just a couple/three medic containers that only have antidepressants and inhalers.
Easy. You would play normally as in legit, and when you decide in your headcanon that it's time for sex, whether it's the beginning with foreplay, or time for progressing to more serious forms of sex, or you really just wanted to fap, you would either "let" yourself get grabbed or instead of trying to bait it, enable h mode to save time.

While gameplay wise sex didn't have any consequences yet, if you had any sense of immersion, you'd feel "guilty" or other emotions for letting your MC get raped which helps against porn desensitization. If you only play games taking only the mechanics at face value, and not using it as a foundation for your own thing, I can see how you can't understand this but I hope I helped you see a different point of view why or how people play Hgames, and why the old system worked so much better for many people.

Also the problem with calling and emphasizing the old system as "themporary, placeholder etc " as an arugment assumes that the corrent system isn't going to be replaces or changed either. I believe at some point the dev didn't even necessarily plan to fully replace the older system, and how can you know he won't do the same with this one? I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's just that it doesn't mean anything and a pointless thing to say in this context.
I understand your concern, one does try to immerse oneself into the position of the MC and in a game where one can have sex and the player is horny af, you wouldn't feel any guilt until the nut, but a flame-war won't fix it(I might be exaggerating a bit, but this train of thought just goes to hell and back).

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I've seen the same imbalance in the game as Edgar here. The gameplay loop isn't really something to write home about yet, but the animations and the models are pretty much spot on for an H-game. Could use some tweaking, but for such a small-scale thing, it's actually pretty good.

I would suggest, to have more ways in which the enemies corrupt the MC. As of right now, the arousal gauge is only a resource to use in the sex minigame without it having any kind of drawback. If the enemies were able to increase this gauge in addition to it having a pronounced negative effect being filled or full, then the players would have an incentive to empty the arousal gauge. (Sex or sedatives could be used as a way to ward off the inevitable punishment of the arousal gauge)
Perhaps a connection to the stress gauge? I'm just throwing ideas here.

The way we initiate intercourse is kind of RNG at this point. I guess the idea was, that the sexual skill path would be a kind of succubus build, where the MC could screw her way through hoards of mobs, but there is no other reward for choosing this route(other than the obvious). The game is basically actively trying to thwart my attempts at sex in a very punishing way.

I am very curious as to what the plan for the eggs is! For now, the tentacles are nothing more than a fetish-plant that will give the preg-fans the tingly bits, but otherwise, they are not a threat, even if a bit annoying at times. They REALLY need something to make the egg-laying aspect make any sense investing into. Hell, those eggy bastards may even carry the whole sex path thing, if they are worth enough time investment to farm their eggs.

That's my two cents for now. I'm really excited for the next update! This thing has so much potential! Keep at it!
 

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Ahah, never found enough sig's to fill a pack, but my real life experience tells me the limit is 20 cigarettes ;)
I do agree 'bout smoking is disgusting... but bein' in very similar to Judi's situation (except rape/sex lol, just UAF infantry sergeant) I'm not sure it's easy to replace cigarettes with something in terms of temporary stress reduction :unsure:
LoL, try combat meditation. If the Jedi can do it, so can you! (You'd have to put down cigs, though. NGL those things'll kill ya)
 
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But I wouldn't use arena as an XP farm either way because I think it's more legit to start from 0 in the story mode.
Do you realize that recent update (from 0.3.98 to 0.3.996) is Arena focused ? Yes, you can play Story mode while using new features but story mode isn't balanced for these features yet, as it wasn't made for you to have smooth sex experience (yet, there are no sex quests, NPCs you can fuck with or have any other sexual activity). You can't even unlock every piece of armor or weapon in there. Dev said many times that he brings new features to the arena first, then he adjusts them and implements in the Story mode.

My loot and lvl don't matter as u can reach the same results or even better by playing less than a hour of arena. It takes even less to unlock every armor piece in the game, wearing just heviest armor will make you very resistant to grab dmg and some smart investment of skill points will make u pretty much invincible.

There's no more middle ground while playing legit
There was no middle ground while playing legit at any point. H-mode was and is a cheat to avoid damage, it's not a legit thing to make middle ground playing. It was just a way to have a quick fuck.

and when you decide in your headcanon that it's time for sex
You also need to make your MC ready and make sure your partner wants it to make it legit. You just can't make enemies don't want to kill you all of the sudden and call it legit. It's the same H-mode as it was just not accessible via "V" key.
 
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Do you realize that recent update (from 0.3.98 to 0.3.996) is Arena focused ? Yes, you can play Story mode while using new features but story mode isn't balanced for these features yet, as it wasn't made for you to have smooth sex experience (yet, there are no sex quests, NPCs you can fuck with or have any other sexual activity). You can't even unlock every piece of armor or weapon in there. Dev said many times that he brings new features to the arena first, then he adjusts them and implements in the Story mode.
If you're trying to say that the game is balanced around the arena mode then just say so XD but before infection was introduced, the game had no difficulty. Pressing V almost didn't change anything but save a little time. Last time I played arena mode was when items definitely did not get shared between arena and story because I couldn't get the shorter pants from arena. But anyway my point is that I just ignore arena because I like to engage in story mode more, so it doesn't matter if a recent patch was arena focused or, but I think I understand your point of view.
There was no middle ground while playing legit at any point. H-mode was and is a cheat to avoid damage, it's not a legit thing to make middle ground playing. It was just a way to have a quick fuck.
Again bro, I don't want to sound mean but just because you don't consider them and say "there was no middle ground" or "system" doesn't mean it wasn't there. Whether it was intended or not, you're wrong because they worked as a middle ground and system respectively, because people were using them as middle ground and system respectively, so that's the minimal evidence needed to prove that they were there. Now they're gone because something was changed drastically and added to where we can't use it the same way and it feels way worse.

I mean honestly if the grabs just did much less damage, or if you could immediately give up to start sex as soon as possible to avoid most damage before sex, then it wouldn't be an issue. I'm not saying all the new things added are bad. An unnecessary problem was and the solution is just "level up".
You also need to make your MC ready and make sure your partner wants it to make it legit. You just can't make enemies don't want to kill you all of the sudden and call it legit. It's the same H-mode as it was just not accessible via "V" key.
Well it used to be that when they wanted to fuck you, they would just try to grab you. What hasn't changed is that you can try and bait dodge their attacks by reacting and pressing space, and then holding still when they did a grab. Pressing V just saved you a bit of time so you could skip it.(of course you could cheese cheat but I didn't do that:)) What did change is that now it's easier cuz of slowmo, but(and) they bash your skull in before doing any sex which is completely unnecessary. There's so many ways irl to subdue and rape someone without nearly killing them whether you're a smart sociopath or stupid animal, especially if the grabber is physically stronger which even if lorewise that's not necessarily true - you can headcanon it. If they're already grabbing you that eventually leads to sex (if you have enough aromr/hp) then that can mean they already had decided to attempt a rape
 
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What did change is that now it's easier cuz of slowmo, but(and) they bash your skull in before doing any sex which is completely unnecessary. There's so many ways irl to subdue and rape someone without nearly killing them whether you're a smart sociopath or stupid animal, especially if the grabber is physically stronger which even if lorewise that's not necessarily true - you can headcanon it. If they're already grabbing you that eventually leads to sex (if you have enough aromr/hp) then that can mean they already had decided to attempt a rape
Read the wiki page. They don't grab you to rape, it's just one of the outcomes of grab if enemies' arousal is high enough otherwise they just hit you to deal dmg and kill. They have mood and arousal. It's a common thing for melee groups of enemies to immobilize their target which always run away and shoot them.

I mean honestly if the grabs just did much less damage, or if you could immediately give up to start sex as soon as possible to avoid most damage before sex, then it wouldn't be an issue.
Man, you literally can have sex as soon as possible by entering H-mode, and it even opens all the animations for you. You also can learn a skill to stay on the ground so even if you lost 90% of HP to one grab the closest enemy will start to fuck you without grabs or dmg. But you just keep telling how it's a problem just because you aren't able to enter H-mode by pressing button on the keyboard.

You can't use H-mode wherever you want and call it a legit play it just equals to god mode.

And I've said that dmg of grabs, their frequncy and other things are the matter of balance.

If you're trying to say that the game is balanced around the arena mode then just say so XD but before infection was introduced, the game had no difficulty.
If patch is arena focused that means that you should play arena to test them for better experience. Balance is not only about difficulty levels you need to balance things even if there is only one difficulty level. I say that game is more balanced in the Arena than in the Story mode, it's not equal to saying that game completely balanced in Arena. For example Arena provides you with painkillers which you struggle to find to die less form "bad high dmg grabs" in the Story mode. And I don't get why are you keep talking about shared MC between Arena and Story, I've never said it's in the game and it tells me you didn't give it a chance in all these days.

I believe at some point the dev didn't even necessarily plan to fully replace the older system, and how can you know he won't do the same with this one?
You can believe whatever you want but to be sure you better ask the dev about it. It's even hard to imagine how his plan from the beggining was to make whole sex system in pressing of V key. And I doubt that H-mode will stay in the end in any form.
He already said that current system will be updated by making different kind of grab by replacing hits with gropes to increase arousal instead of dealing dmg. My vision is that you won't be able to have easy sex from the start just by entering the game and curroption system that are being implemented proves it, but untill it's incomplete we have a H-mode.
 
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Honestly thought the simplicity and access of the old system was a nod to the fact that some people are just here for the porn. Maybe I gave too much credit, ionno.

Though, I'm also reminded that some of the best animations (the anal on the 'father', ofc) are still fucking backwards, still facing the wrong way, after fuck knows how long.
 

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If someone need a fertile tattoo. ;)

Just download this picture and rename to .png or .jpg then palce it in the body folder in your save location:
yourName\AppData\Local\Yuna\Saved\SaveGames\Customization\Tattoo\Body

Yuna Fertile Tattoo_01.png
BT_0.png
 

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interesting problem ive got here: when i boot up the game i get a black screen with like, a sliver of what i imagine to be the main menu on the left side of the screen. 1745916990413.png
 

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interesting problem ive got here: when i boot up the game i get a black screen with like, a sliver of what i imagine to be the main menu on the left side of the screen. View attachment 4789197
try to launch in compatibility mode. Also can be useful if your cpu doesnt work well with Unreal Engine. (some i7/i9's)
vv iIf you dont know how vv
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