VN Ren'Py Abandoned Coffee Break [v0.24] [InCreed]

[exazubi]

and that's the problem with games that have ntr. Vocal support from fans all over the world. And they will fight for the game to continue with that tag. But little of that support is reflected on patreon. What a shame, but it is what it is

There are also other platforms, such as itch.IO

Since there are a lot of developers who would like to be paid per month on patreon, but stop the development in the middle, which is more the rule than the exception, not to forget those who always give in to haters and change their games, more and more people are avoiding this platform.

I myself only support developers on itch.io. There is usually paid for per download. There is always a minimum price + a bonus, a kind of recognition, that you can determine yourself. Strangely enough, significantly fewer developers stop the developing there.

 

[InCreed]

There are also other platforms, such as itch.IO

Oh, my game is on itch.io, and it's doing "great":

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[E_O_N]

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You can report them, takes 2-3 weeks but they will be gone.
Since you chose ntr, it will be harder on places like reddit as well.

You took the path where chest hair is needed.
If nothing else, be proud of that.

 

[dumbass55]

I swear in the real world there is an influential group of narcissists who look just like Garry.

 

[Kaos_Theory]

InCreed People dislike NTR for whatever reason, but given that I've gone through the comments and seen your addition of a disclaimer (recent or not) on how all NTR scenes that could involve girls with whom the mc will/could have relations are entirely avoidable, I fail to see what they're complaining about. The one thing to remember is, the quietest voices are the ones who will appreciate good work that's done well, while the loudest are the ones who will openly criticize you for even the tiniest mistake. Try to pay no mind to the loud voices, they will not help you perfect your craft

 

[exazubi]

InCreed People dislike NTR for whatever reason, but given that I've gone through the comments and seen your addition of a disclaimer (recent or not) on how all NTR scenes that could involve girls with whom the mc will/could have relations are entirely avoidable, I fail to see what they're complaining about. The one thing to remember is, the quietest voices are the ones who will appreciate good work that's done well, while the loudest are the ones who will openly criticize you for even the tiniest mistake. Try to pay no mind to the loud voices, they will not help you perfect your craft

NTR haters generally hate any other penis in a game that isn't the MC's, whether the scene is actually NTR or not. Most don't even know the real definition of NTR. And some of these people do anything to sabotage such games, from haunting threats to dragging down ratings, both on forums and on patreons. I can name countless threats where it works the same way. This is a never ending story. Thank goodness forums and developers have finally started to fight back.

 

[ThaDude1977]

I would say if your making this VN for just shits and giggles while making a little bit of cash i would say do this VN how you want. But if you want to make lots of money I would make what NTR you have avoidable and drop the NTR stuff moving forward because while you may have a lot of support vocally for NTR not to many of them are willing to pay for it. NTR lovers are a minority and over half that minority is just looking for free content. Also going half in on NTR is not going to make to many people happy. NTR lovers are not going to like it because it is half assed and the Non NTR people are not going to like it because they don't want to see it at all and they are very sensitive to what NTR is.

 

[Rockero_69]

So will there be a harem? because in future labels I don't see that this

 

[SamualHand]

So will there be a harem?

Maybe an office harem? All the girls in this game belong to your office.

 

[InCreed]

There is a harem ending planned, so there will be harem content, but it will come later.

 

[Frankbob]

I like this game, It's a shame that there is an active group that goes around trying to destroy a devs work. Why can't these people just fuck off.

 

[InCreed]

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[exazubi]

I like this game, It's a shame that there is an active group that goes around trying to destroy a devs work. Why can't these people just fuck off.

This "group" is hardly a handful of people that are in every NTR threat. Just ignore it as the developer does

 

[InCreed]

This "group" is hardly a handful of people that are in every NTR threat. Just ignore it as the developer does

Yeah, they are annoying, but whatever. I'm more sad about their review bombing the game. I'm not saying that, this is the best game ever, and deserves only 5-star ratings, but there are a lot of negative reviews from NTR haters on different sites. Even here, there is one review by the guy who created his account five minutes before posting it, and the only activity on his account was face palming my NTR explanations. Also, he mentions "numerous bugs", that no one else has encountered. Now I think his account is deleted, but his review stays. And the two 5-star reviews, which I agreed looked very weird, were instantly deleted...
Edit: I see the review that I talk about was removed, thanks to the moderators for being reasonable.

 

[exazubi]

Yeah, they are annoying, but whatever. I'm more sad about their review bombing the game. I'm not saying that, this is the best game ever, and deserves only 5-star ratings, but there are a lot of negative reviews from NTR haters on different sites. Even here, there is one review by the guy who created his account five minutes before posting it, and the only activity on his account was face palming my NTR explanations. Also, he mentions "numerous bugs", that no one else has encountered. Now I think his account is deleted, but his review stays. And the two 5-star reviews, which I agreed looked very weird, were instantly deleted...

This is nothing new. I'm also used to facepalms, I laugh about it. This guys are a lot fewer than you think, they´are not the majority at all. Not even in this thread. Some of these people create extra accounts just to complain and haunt NTR threats to disrupt. They're like schoolyard bullies who take on every newcomer just to "mark their territory". They are in every NTR threat. I assure you, there are enough NTR fans spread over the whole forum. As soon as a game has reached a certain quality and a developer has asserted himself against the haters, the fans come too.

 

[DarknessDai]

This is nothing new. I'm also used to facepalms, I laugh about it. This guys are a lot fewer than you think, they´are not the majority at all. Not even in this thread. Some of these people create extra accounts just to complain and haunt NTR threats to disrupt. They're like schoolyard bullies who take on every newcomer just to "mark their territory". They are in every NTR threat. I assure you, there are enough NTR fans spread over the whole forum. As soon as a game has reached a certain quality and a developer has asserted himself against the haters, the fans come too.

True that , NTR fans never go to Harem only games and complain about harem and so but in every game that has NTR tag they will come bitching about it i mean if all porn market is the same we will all be bored having femdom games there maledom here ntr here and harem there makes us able to choose if everygame dev gets bullied for making different content then we are doomed plus Dev stay strong and keep the good work

 

[M3lly]

This disclaimer has been added to make the change in the dev log more visible. To be honest, it didn't make much of a difference in how I wanted the game to progress. And I originally intended to make Kendra scenes unavoidable, so that was the 5% unavoidable, but I changed my mind in the last update and made it avoidable, so there you have it.

I am only here for the NTR tbh.. and NTR only works if it is a direct love interest else we won't really feel anything.

 

[BlasKyau]

NTR haters generally hate any other penis in a game that isn't the MC's, whether the scene is actually NTR or not. Most don't even know the real definition of NTR. And some of these people do anything to sabotage such games, from haunting threats to dragging down ratings, both on forums and on patreons. I can name countless threats where it works the same way. This is a never ending story. Thank goodness forums and developers have finally started to fight back.

I don't like netorare, sharing or swinging. The voyeur scenes where a guy bangs a girl (known or unknown, but without being netorare, that is, she doesn't have any kind of romantic relationship with the MC), well, they don't interest me. And you're right about one thing, I'm not particularly keen on seeing penises other than the MC's in games. But as long as it's not NTR or sharing, and knowing in advance that those scenes exist, I can always use CTRL to skip them.

In any case, the NTR is avoidable, so I don't know what problem there might be with it.

I've started the game, and so far it looks interesting, although I haven't progressed far enough to be able to give a definitive opinion.

 

[InCreed]

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[Steve Carter]

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