sembolan

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Jan 21, 2021
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Most users are very satisfied, not because of the progress, but because they can see the big jump in quality from the previous version to the new one. The same goes for new users, they are loving it.

Just a very minor part of people don't really like it, and it's completely understandable for users who were expecting progress on the story.

But it's not true that there was zero progress, none can say that there isn't any difference between the prologue and this new version, in terms of quality.
What are you even talking about. Most people here are annoyed at you. We haven't waited 2+ years for this fucking side track.

Instead of finishing the story you made a CHRISTMAS update that came out 5 months after christmas (like holy shit). And now you're trying to act like you didn't make it just so you could keep your patreons that were turning on you?

Where's the ACTUAL update? Does it even exist and when does it come out?
Why would you start working on a christmas event when no one was asking for it? Why didn't you use that time to work on the actual update instead?

You must've started working on this christmas update a lot earlier than christmas no? A couple of months? + 5 months after christmas before it came out. That's a lot of time for a side track.
 

HogRocket

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What are you even talking about. Most people here are annoyed at you. We haven't waited 2+ years for this fucking side track.

Instead of finishing the story you made a CHRISTMAS update that came out 5 months after christmas (like holy shit). And now you're trying to act like you didn't make it just so you could keep your patreons that were turning on you?

Where's the ACTUAL update? Does it even exist and when does it come out?
Why would you start working on a christmas event when no one was asking for it? Why didn't you use that time to work on the actual update instead?

You must've started working on this christmas update a lot earlier than christmas no? A couple of months? + 5 months after christmas before it came out. That's a lot of time for a side track.
Komisari = right
you - wrong
 

Komisari

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Dec 17, 2019
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What are you even talking about. Most people here are annoyed at you. We haven't waited 2+ years for this fucking side track.

Instead of finishing the story you made a CHRISTMAS update that came out 5 months after christmas (like holy shit). And now you're trying to act like you didn't make it just so you could keep your patreons that were turning on you?

Where's the ACTUAL update? Does it even exist and when does it come out?
Why would you start working on a christmas event when no one was asking for it? Why didn't you use that time to work on the actual update instead?

You must've started working on this christmas update a lot earlier than christmas no? A couple of months? + 5 months after christmas before it came out. That's a lot of time for a side track.
Hello, I understand you might be annoyed. But it is not true that most people here are annoyed at me. Most of the users who insult here don't even play the game, nor want to play it.

I started working on the Christmas event the October 31st, specifically.

Also, here you have a roadmap for the next update:
If you didn't like what I did, please, there is no need to support me or join my Patreon, you can just wait while there are other games to enjoy. I'm sorry for the decisions I took, I explained multiple times that the Christmas Update was a mistake, I even almost cancel it halfway through.

Even so, the vast majority that TRIED the update are happy. They saw the change between the prologue and the new quality, they saw what it looks like, and how much it takes to create something like that. A small minority here who didn't even want to try the update has zero-to-none weight in their words.

And now you're trying to act like you didn't make it just so you could keep your patreons that were turning on you?
The update was completely free for everyone.
I even made multiple public announcements asking for people to NOT pledge on my Patreon until I post the next update.
 

Komisari

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Hello, I don't delete bad comments, anyone can go to any community and check it themselves :)
I don't have power over this thread, I cannot delete your messages :)

Also, please, unfollow this thread if you don't care about this game.
 
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standbygames

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Mar 13, 2018
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Hello, I don't delete bad comments, anyone can go to any community and check it themselves :)
I don't have power over this thread, I cannot delete your messages :)

Also, please, unfollow this thread if you don't care about this game.
You might not but someone sure does. This is maybe the most censored thread on the site. I've seen whole pages of comments disappear overnight, time and time again. Way more so than any other thread I read on the site. And they're almost all pages of comments critical of the game/development. Most the comments deleted didn't violate any rules. It was mostly just fair criticism of a game that has released 1 holiday patch no one really wanted in literally 2.5+ years. I don't know if some mod just loves the game or what but I just shrug and accept whatever the mods want to do (it's their site after all).

Either way to claim that most people support you and that most the people who are critical "don't even play the game or want to" is kinda silly. It was overwhelmingly negative in here in the months before the holiday patch. Then some brief somewhat positivity on release as there was at least something to play, albeit not the promised chapter 1 people wanted. And now? It's kinda just dead around here.. literally like 1/20th the activity of a few months ago. There used to be pages of discussions a day. I think some people are finally starting to accept this game will never be finished, nor updated in any reasonable timeframe, and stopped caring as much. Just apathy at this point, after years of delays and disappointment. Which is probably worse for you than all the criticism, tbh, or at least, not as entertaining haha.
 
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Komisari

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I think people are finally started to accept this game will never be finished, nor updated in any reasonable timeframe, and stopped caring. Just apathy at this point, after years of disappointment. Which is probably worse for you than all the criticism, tbh, or at least, not as entertaining haha.
Yeah, seems like people started to realize about it.
It's a good time to unfollow the thread if you're not interested in the game anymore!
 

Komisari

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It is true there are many pages with deleted comments... that I read before and now they are not there, it is true perhaps Komisari does not delete them, but perhaps he reported it so that an administrator could delete those bad comments, in short they are critical, which should be useful, yes He doesn't accept negative criticism... what does he make of it? but anyway, if the majority still sees the thread, it's because they want to see that so many people today realize that this game is going nowhere, you can try transparency now... but it's too late... two years and half late... greetings and as someone here said in previous comments, it is the thread with the most censorship... pages and pages of negative comments eliminated... it is critical, whether positive or negative they should be, because that's how new people like I who will try the game abides by what to expect from this game... those who really want to support it will be there for more years to come, and those who don't will at least be aware that they don't have much hope...
I do not report comments with bad critisism, its your problem if you believe that.

Also, come on, people. When the comments (Including mine) get deleted, you get a notification with the reason.
Most of the times is "offtopic" or "cleanup".

These comments will also probably get deleted for the same reason. Including mines.
 

KittyMaid

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Jul 28, 2020
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Yeah, seems like people started to realize about it.
It's a good time to unfollow the thread if you're not interested in the game anymore!
They are interested, despite what they say. No one is going to write an essay if they truly had no interest, they just having a tantrum is all. Anyways good update but will there be more Leticia next time? She's an awesome character that i think she should get more attention, she's a witch! :3
 
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Komisari

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They are interested, despite what they say. No one is going to write an essay if they truly had no interest, they just having a tantrum is all. Anyways good update but will there be more Leticia next time? She's an awesome character that i think she should get more attention, she's a witch! :3
Loooooots of Leticia incoming!
 

akselx

Active Member
Mar 29, 2020
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Seriously, though, do you get a kick out of being verbally abused? Every time I checked this thread, there're always people bitching about long wait and you stoking the flames by responding to every other message. What gives?

Also, it seems to me that in this thread moderators just doing their moderating stuff, I've seen them delete whole pages of messages before in other threads, nothing else to it.
 

Kantanshi

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You might not but someone sure does. This is maybe the most censored thread on the site. I've seen whole pages of comments disappear overnight, time and time again. Way more so than any other thread I read on the site. And they're almost all pages of comments critical of the game/development. Most the comments ...

Blah blah bLah BLAH etc and so on
The messages that get removed add nothing to the conversation or thread topic. Most likely they are something that has been said a thousand times before. Moderators, through experience, recognize such posts and know when they will lead to flame wars in the thread so try to stop them before they happen as they add no value. If you feel nostalgic about such posts, just go back a few pages and relive the glory days of pointless hateful postings if that's the sort of thing you enjoy. A few words get changed here and there but they amount to the same thing. "I'm mAd *pout* "You're a sCamm3r *stick out tongue*" It's all been said before ad-nauseum.

As for Komi's claim that most people support him, I kinda believe it. Most of the negative comments came, in the majority, from a handful of haters that made repetitious posts and patted each other on the back when they made disparaging comments. All you have to do is go back to messages in support of Komi and look for the facepalm reactions or the negative posts with positive reactions. Pretty much the same group of people for all of them.

Most people who support Komi do not post in here because they know that 9 times out of 10 they will just be called a shill or white knight or whatever or they are just patiently waiting for the next release and feel they have nothing to add to the conversation.

As for your conclusion that people are giving up which is causing the thread to slow down, it doesn't ring true. The reason that it flared up for a while is because Komi announced that he was going to release content so people got more involved. Then the delays caused more negative input which sparked even more responses. Now that the release is "old news" activity has dropped back to pre-announcement rates with the majority of posts being people asking about the INC patch, save files and compressed version requests.

In the end, it boils down to maturity level and amount of patience. Those who have it usually stay silent while patiently waiting and playing some other games to pass the time while those who don't have it scream the loudest that they are upset that they aren't getting immediate gratification.

And yes, I'm guessing this post may disappear like many other posts have before. Such is life.
 

CrackedDong

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Aug 1, 2021
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I don't give a fuck about the drama, like the game, just want to ask if there is any knowledge or steps from this Christmas in May update that will be applied towards more concurrent updates or for helping when the second part comes out, or however these updates are being titled/worked on?
 

Komisari

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I don't give a fuck about the drama, like the game, just want to ask if there is any knowledge or steps from this Christmas in May update that will be applied towards more concurrent updates or for helping when the second part comes out, or however these updates are being titled/worked on?
Hello, can you please come again? I wasn't unable to understand your question. Sorry!
 
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