VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[TD1900]

I am so confused. I've done a save where there is literally 0 indication

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I know, this is going to sound stupid, but I have to ask...

Did you pick Ian to give you money for Rosalind's problem? rosalindKilSolution is the sole determinant variable for that scene, and the only way to pick it up is by selecting that option or mucking about with the console. If you don't want to replay from that earlier point, I'd recommend mucking. rosalindKilSolution = False will get rid of it, but I would also turn one of the other three options on as... it's a pretty important Rosalind variable that gets referenced a lot.

Let me know if you want me to elaborate further on those.

Great scenes with Felicia and Mina, but this time they had very little expression on their faces in those scenes, which was quite disappointing. Such expressions had a rather strong influence on the H-scenes in this game and their absence was very sad and made these scenes a little bland. I hope that this is still an isolated case and does not mean at all that the author has lost interest in his game and therefore misses various kinds of “details” in his opinion...

I can assure you that was GIL at his most interested, and that the cause of your disappointment rests somewhere else other than a lack of enthusiasm on his part. I'm actually stumped on how you'd call any of that "very little expression", other than perhaps you want ahegaos and eyes rolling back into heads or maybe more climatic close ups? In which case, you can blame my direction for not calling for those in the script.

Anyway, probably an isolated case, so don't be too worried?

 

[MagicMan753]

Do you hope for a romance path or more along the line of the handjob scene?

I am hoping for something more romantic, but you can also go more hardcore, like there is always a option, if you just look at the most recent felicia scene, you can approach more rough or romantic. If you look at rose she got some story progression in past updates, but in terms of scenes its very small or path dependent like if you didn't go with veronica, You get a very short handhob scene, but I never see any reason not to go with veronica, so I don't really see that scene and in this update you had to accept a deal way back when, and im not really into heavy sharing, if it were to happen inside the club sure, thats fine, because that would be part of the story, but outside i want solo rosa,so Im hoping next update we get some sort of date, or romantic evening in just the two of them, which like I said would make sense beacaue in ch.4 we had 4 updates each focusing on a main girl, the only main girl who didn't focused yet is rose, so hopingfor update 5 we get a date out or night in for them next update.

 

[sunaboz]

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I can assure you that was GIL at his most interested, and that the cause of your disappointment rests somewhere else other than a lack of enthusiasm on his part. I'm actually stumped on how you'd call any of that "very little expression", other than perhaps you want ahegaos and eyes rolling back into heads or maybe more climatic close ups? In which case, you can blame my direction for not calling for those in the script.

I don't know what he's talking about, girls had various expressions all the time so I'm guessing he was counting on aheago faces (and there are a couple of those in this update, anything more would be excessive IMO). I have a very different opinion, IMO this update is visually the best of all (expressions included). Lucy scene for example is so hot mainly thanks to her expressions. The restriction of the place and not being able to have sex with her then and there made for one of the hottest scenes in a whole game IMO.
GIL3D

 

[Garen]

TD1900 I encountered a minor bug, maybe?

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[Turret]

I don't know what he's talking about, girls had various expressions all the time so I'm guessing he was counting on aheago faces (and there are a couple of those in this update, anything more would be excessive IMO). I have a very different opinion, IMO this update is visually the best of all (expressions included). Lucy scene for example is so hot mainly thanks to her expressions. The restriction of the place and not being able to have sex with her then and there made for one of the hottest scenes in a whole game IMO.
GIL3D

Agree with you! I mentioned GIL´s still growing great Art in my own thoughts post and we had many expressions showing on the faces of boys´n girls in the update. I have no idea what that guy is talking about unless he wanted some very specific expressions.

 

[eromaster]

Amazing update! Looking through the source, seems I missed two threesome scenes on my route (IanXEdwinXRose, EdwinXFelXMina), and also an unused image of victoria's past! I'm just sad I'll have to wait a few more months!

 

[forceline0]

Love how subtle the ntr is in this game, even ntr haters don't complain. Haha, so amusing.
Ty for the update!

 

[Samga]

I was aiming to reach some kind of relationship with either the mom or the old hag, however that Denise character appeared and now i'd really like more of her.

 

[reid1]

Very solid update, liked many things about it (still have to check my other saves since I only played my main route today).

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[Shubhamdt98]

Android version?

 

[Turret]

Very solid update, liked many things about it (still have to check my other saves since I only played my main route today).

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Well, that is another hint towards Chuck´s deviant sexuality. Several updates ago we learned that Dalia is afraid of Chuck, so she must have had "his attention". And since she is important to the running of PC, she survived, something most other girls are implied to not have done. This update Chuck also mentions it to Sophia since she is important, he could not do much to her, if he would win a chess game.
And as I mentioned in several posts of mine before, Sophia, an amoral, eccentric genius nerd for whom the end justifies the means and potentially really dangerous herself finds Chuck scary! If someone you consider dangerous tells you about seomthing/somenone they find scary you should better listen well.

 

[Randomguy3478]

I am hoping for something more romantic, but you can also go more hardcore, like there is always a option, if you just look at the most recent felicia scene, you can approach more rough or romantic. If you look at rose she got some story progression, but in terms of scenes its very small or path dependent like if you didn't go with veronica, You get a very short handhob scene, but I never see any reason not to go with veronica, so I don't really see that scene and in this update you had to accept a deal way back when, and im not really into heavy sharing, if it were to happen inside the club sure, thats fine, because that would be part of the story, but outside i want solo rosa,so Im hoping next update we get some sort of date, or romantic evening in just the two of them, which like I said would make sense beacaue in ch.4 we had 4 updates each focusing on a main girl, the only main girl who didn't focused yet is rose, so hopingfor update 5 we get a date out or night in for them next update.

Seems like a rose update is still on the list. I would prefer to see the dynamic of the handjob scene continued, as I enjoyed Edwin just using rose as a personal slave for his selfish pleasure and I'm just generally not interested in any romance. But prefer solo as well. But if it's Ian I don't mind as it's always funny and my sexual desire enjoys how he treats the women.

+1 for Oyakodon ending ^^

 

[Vaassaa]

You have to ask him for help with Rosa on the 12th and he will stipulate a threesome to give her the money, which she gladly accepts.

Otherwise you shouldn't get the scene as far as I know (and in my old savegame I didn't).



Something doesn't seem to work right with the persistent saves, I had to copy over mine from Update 3 into the folder of Update 4 as well.

I know, this is going to sound stupid, but I have to ask...

Did you pick Ian to give you money for Rosalind's problem? rosalindKilSolution is the sole determinant variable for that scene, and the only way to pick it up is by selecting that option or mucking about with the console. If you don't want to replay from that earlier point, I'd recommend mucking. rosalindKilSolution = False will get rid of it, but I would also turn one of the other three options on as... it's a pretty important Rosalind variable that gets referenced a lot.

Let me know if you want me to elaborate further on those.



I can assure you that was GIL at his most interested, and that the cause of your disappointment rests somewhere else other than a lack of enthusiasm on his part. I'm actually stumped on how you'd call any of that "very little expression", other than perhaps you want ahegaos and eyes rolling back into heads or maybe more climatic close ups? In which case, you can blame my direction for not calling for those in the script.

Anyway, probably an isolated case, so don't be too worried?

I went back and am currently skipping through just for that choice, because I really don't like sharing with one of the girls I'm most interested in.

I mean, the choice was basically years ago, wasn't it? Obviously I don't have the save where I really thought about it, so I tried skipping through to start this update with the right choices but must have missed one.

Imho options that are very fetish-y/risky that you took years ago should really give you an opt-out in future updates.

Although yeh, one of the issues here is the cheat mod doesn't let you change variables

 

[McGreed]

Well, that is another hint towards Chuck´s deviant sexuality. Several updates ago we learned that Dalia is afraid of Chuck, so she must have had "his attention". And since she is important to the running of PC, she survived, something most other girls are implied to not have done. This update Chuck also mentions it to Sophia since she is important, he could not do much to her, if he would win a chess game.
And as I mentioned in several posts of mine before, Sophia, an amoral, eccentric genius nerd for whom the end justifies the means and potentially really dangerous herself finds Chuck scary! If someone you consider dangerous tells you about seomthing/somenone they find scary you should better listen well.

Do you have any thoughts about cliffhanger and what could happen in one of the future updates given what we saw in the end of this one? I quite like reading your comments and was surprised that you didn't say anything about it, unless I'm actually blind and somehow didn't notice it in your overall comment about this update

 

[sunaboz]

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Imho options that are very fetish-y/risky that you took years ago should really give you an opt-out in future updates. (...)

The problem here is that we got 5000 USD because we've agreed to a threesome, if we would opt out we would betray Rose and Ian and lose any credibility we would have. Edwin is an adult and he knew perfectly well what he was getting into when he agreed so why would he back out?

If you

don't like sharing

then why did you agree to it? I don't want another fictional character have sex with a fictional, virtual woman but I'll choose the option to have a threesome with her and by default have another man fuck her. WTF?

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

We're a harem game in the sense that the potato MC bangs a bunch of hot chicks who all compliment his dick. Or in other words, a porn game.

We're not a harem game in the sense that... there's not going to be any harem?

So I suppose it just depends if you're using harem as a synonym for eye-roll worthy wish fulfillment, which fair, but that's the same as everyone who calls another dude getting his wick wet NTR.

I sure do love circling this drain with you, Johnny.

If you're as sharp and aware as I think you are, you know exactly why I'm revisiting this theme at this point in time.

Though separately I would commend the two of you for making this update more heavy on storytelling and lighter on beating up girls for fun.

 

[juice2000]

Has anyone got a gallery unlock for all scenes?

 

[Turret]

Do you have any thoughts about cliffhanger and what could happen in one of the future updates given what we saw in the end of this one? I quite like reading your comments and was surprised that you didn't say anything about it, unless I'm actually blind and somehow didn't notice it in your overall comment about this update

Hi! Well, I kept back on commenting on the cliffhanger in my "update thoughts" post since I wanted to think several scenarios through. It was quite a bang moment, but generally I consider it a move which can backfire on the Club big time! While it was not Kat alone, the invitation was from "us"(the leadership of PC), I am quite sure it was Kat pushing for inviting Elias. Which is why I mentioned the Xanatos gambit. Inviting Feli´s husbandis certainly for the most part due to Kat´s sadism and cruelty, which is growing going by some comments of August, but I think Kat has also plans using the bang and fallout waiting to happen.
Even if I were not a fan of Sophia my MC would certainly look towards getting the support of August, Abel and Sophia. They are at least rational thinking persons, unlike Chuck and Kat who seem to get worse than in former times.

 

[Ungawa]

Folks, if you're asking for the Gallery Unlocker, it's on page 655 posted by Ass prefer which helps unlock everything from the Ch 4 Up 3. You still got some leg work, but it's (currently) this post right here.

Also, another option...

Mod is here

It's up to you if you want to use that information or not.

Edit -> Given that the galleries were changed in the most recent update, I'll wait until the public release before giving a proper link for mods.

 

[Ass prefer]

Folks, if you're asking for the Gallery Unlocker, it's on page 655 posted by Ass prefer which helps unlock everything from the Ch 4 Up 3. You still got some leg work, but it's (currently) this post right here.

Also, another option...

Mod is here

It's up to you if you want to use that information or not.

if anything, I'm not the creator of this program. You don't need to contact me