Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

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N1K17Y

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JabadaJD said:
It's real.


I have no idea who the woman from the picture is, but i think that everybody can agree on that she would be THE perfect Linda.
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the only thing she has in common is the hair (and im pretty sure its tucked, its not actually that short). probably looks nothing like Linda in the front.
 
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You think this thread is bad, the Summertime Saga thread is a real shitshow.
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I haven't actually read enough of this thread to see how bad it is, but I do understand the frustrations on Summertime Saga. I was a patron of theirs, but the time between updates was just taking way too long for me. I also wasn't particularly happy with some of the artwork changes. I just wanted more focus in their development, and the more involved the game got, the less focused DC and team were. At least that was how I felt. There were other reasons why I stopped pledging. But I will say that if you are supporting someone, you do have the right to criticize a developer, hopefully constructively, but I know that doesn't happen. I also know from SS thread that it can get downright nasty. I am sure I aired my frustrations about DC and team on that thread, but at the time I was either still a patron or just recently ended my patronage and blowing off steam. With ICSTOR, the fact that he specifically said he is taking personal time off is fantastic. That level of transparency is not only appreciated, but for his Patrons, I think required. As far as the freeloaders go, yeah they have no room to talk. However, in saying that, being excited about an update coming out is great, and I don't think they should be ostracized for asking when an update will come out. Especially, if it has not been asked a hundred times before. Now if it has, and they still ask, then they deserve all the backlash they get. On that note, I am currently a freeloader of Milfy City (might pledge when ICSTOR comes back), and, therefore, I will never complain about the time between updates. I know this makes me in the minority, which is unfortunate, but also the truth. Finally, my point for this post was to show that there are people who have legitimate reasons to be frustrated, and that they should not just be lumped in as "whiny" bitches.
 
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Guys in the walkthrough for Linda it said hover your mouse to the gap in Bob office I cant do anything nothing popup. BTW i am android user.
 
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Mab's Thrall22 said:
I haven't actually read enough of this thread to see how bad it is, but I do understand the frustrations on Summertime Saga. I was a patron of theirs, but the time between updates was just taking way too long for me. I also wasn't particularly happy with some of the artwork changes. I just wanted more focus in their development, and the more involved the game got, the less focused DC and team were. At least that was how I felt. There were other reasons why I stopped pledging. But I will say that if you are supporting someone, you do have the right to criticize a developer, hopefully constructively, but I know that doesn't happen. I also know from SS thread that it can get downright nasty. I am sure I aired my frustrations about DC and team on that thread, but at the time I was either still a patron or just recently ended my patronage and blowing off steam. With ICSTOR, the fact that he specifically said he is taking personal time off is fantastic. That level of transparency is not only appreciated, but for his Patrons, I think required. As far as the freeloaders go, yeah they have no room to talk. However, in saying that, being excited about an update coming out is great, and I don't think they should be ostracized for asking when an update will come out. Especially, if it has not been asked a hundred times before. Now if it has, and they still ask, then they deserve all the backlash they get. On that note, I am currently a freeloader of Milfy City (might pledge when ICSTOR comes back), and, therefore, I will never complain about the time between updates. I know this makes me in the minority, which is unfortunate, but also the truth. Finally, my point for this post was to show that there are people who have legitimate reasons to be frustrated, and that they should not just be lumped in as "whiny" bitches.
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What is disturbing is not that he takes a vacation, or that he is absent, but rather that he does not say simply: the next update will be released in 2047. We would make it idea much more easily ...
 
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The mere fact, that he doesn't give you an artificial time of release, is what you find disturbing??? Quit being so petty.
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... that's not the point he's making.

Professionally run projects will be much more transparent about potential release dates, about the progress they're making, etc. They'll release a date, even if it's in the relatively distant future and then people can track as deadlines along that path are met or missed.

The whole "It'll be done when it's done and we have no idea when that is" mentality suggests (to some people) that nobody actually knows what's going on, that there's no clear focus, no goals set, no milestones to work towards. That organization is lacking.

Now speaking for this particular project and this particular developer? Who can say, but I imagine that the general train of thought when someone says "Why are there no target dates? Why is the dev so tight-lipped about how things are going?" is this.
 
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Vordertur said:
... that's not the point he's making.

Professionally run projects will be much more transparent about potential release dates, about the progress they're making, etc. They'll release a date, even if it's in the relatively distant future and then people can track as deadlines along that path are met or missed.

The whole "It'll be done when it's done and we have no idea when that is" mentality suggests (to some people) that nobody actually knows what's going on, that there's no clear focus, no goals set, no milestones to work towards. That organization is lacking.

Now speaking for this particular project and this particular developer? Who can say, but I imagine that the general train of thought when someone says "Why are there no target dates? Why is the dev so tight-lipped about how things are going?" is this.
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I'm sure there are target dates (the break notwithstanding, of course). He chooses not to share them with us, because then people will say stuff like "You promised it out in June! It's not out! You suck!"

Inherently artistic projects are harder to scope than technical projects, because you have to deal with things like artist's block in addition to technical issues like mis-estimating render times.

Plus, this is NOT a professionally run project. If I had to guess I'd say it's CMM level -1. :p



Yes, yes, the lowest CMM level is 1. I know.
 
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I look at it as: either the Devs work to a schedule and fit in what is possible (e.g., MrDots) or they work to a content goal and let that dictate the release schedule (e.g., ICSTOR, Luxee). Usually, it's a mix of the two but still favoring one "project management" method vs the other.

Summertime Saga has become weird because they are revisiting established parts of the game and releasing updates+fixes which don't provide new content so much as revised content, increasingly. That's OK for some things, but it really seems to be a large part of what they do now and feels like unnecessary churn and even destructive at times: if I was a patron of SS, the new content would be my focus, honestly.
 
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Vordertur said:
... that's not the point he's making.

Professionally run projects will be much more transparent about potential release dates, about the progress they're making, etc. They'll release a date, even if it's in the relatively distant future and then people can track as deadlines along that path are met or missed.

The whole "It'll be done when it's done and we have no idea when that is" mentality suggests (to some people) that nobody actually knows what's going on, that there's no clear focus, no goals set, no milestones to work towards. That organization is lacking.

Now speaking for this particular project and this particular developer? Who can say, but I imagine that the general train of thought when someone says "Why are there no target dates? Why is the dev so tight-lipped about how things are going?" is this.
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exactly!
 
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goobdoob said:
I'm sure there are target dates (the break notwithstanding, of course). He chooses not to share them with us, because then people will say stuff like "You promised it out in June! It's not out! You suck!"

Inherently artistic projects are harder to scope than technical projects, because you have to deal with things like artist's block in addition to technical issues like mis-estimating render times.

Plus, this is NOT a professionally run project. If I had to guess I'd say it's CMM level -1. :p



Yes, yes, the lowest CMM level is 1. I know.
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That's it. That's what I find important. At least we have an idea. Personally, if at my job I take 2 months of leave without any real justification, well it would say to me: "goodbye". Now, Icstor surely has good reasons. Personally, I prefer to tell myself that the end of the game will be released in 2047 and that we will finally have the family orgy ... At least, with luck, it may be released in 2046. Good, sorry, I do not want not be mean, but ... who would contradict me?
 
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That's it. That's what I find important. At least we have an idea. Personally, if at my job I take 2 months of leave without any real justification, well it would say to me: "goodbye". Now, Icstor surely has good reasons. Personally, I prefer to tell myself that the end of the game will be released in 2047 and that we will finally have the family orgy ... At least, with luck, it may be released in 2046. Good, sorry, I do not want not be mean, but ... who would contradict me?
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Well, for starters, every person in this thread not making ludicrous exaggerations for the sake of argument.
 
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People who complain about ICSTOR's release schedule should seriously get some perspective, hundreds of high profile AAA games are delayed or cancelled every year, these are projects that often have hundreds of employees and entire marketing departments working to arrive at a specific release date and even then they often fail and on the occasions the game makes the release date usually at the insistence of the publisher it's often so vapid or buggy that no one wants to play it anyway.

Expecting one dev to do what entire development studios of hundreds of employees and their publishers can't do (releasing games in the expected time) is unreasonable and stupid.
 
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