VN Ren'Py Abandoned Come Inside [v0.2.1] [ttll]

[zandalari]

ttll, I think it's great that you are engaging with the community, but arguing with bitter people is pretty pointless. They will remain bitter and probably stop supporting your patreon which is certainly their right, as is your right to work slowly and only release a game when it is ready. Keep on working, do your thing at your own pace. Your vision earned you many fans and the quality of your releases only reinforced them.

Don't go changing any of that. Trying to appease the fringe could lead to losing the core fans if you have to make compromises. Let your work speak for itself, the game you're making is fucking awesome. I personally can't wait to see what other things you have planned and am good with waiting.

Just remember to watch your blood pressure when reading this forum. Life's too short to stress about nonsense and I'd rather see you live long enough to finish this and however many other games you'd want to make!

 

[Holoholo22]

Sorry to bother with this question guys, but TTLL is using daz 3d or blender to make his art? (Or other software perhaps)

 

[ttll]

MOISTNESS First of all, I'm glad you liked the game. =)

But to be honest, I don't agree with you.


I don't think BigBrotherrrr has a negative opinion of me or my game, after all he has a picture of my game in his signature, which indicates that he likes it.
And the more he writes on the forum, the more he spreads the word about my game, and helps me indirectly, for which I am grateful.


I don't engage into discussions in which there's a subjective opinion. "Bad renders" - maybe. "Bad story" - okay.
"It's disgustingly written" - it reads a little better in Russian. =)

I only try to answer when I see some misunderstading, mistakes, wrong interptretanion of the game, the plot, my words or actions.

After eight months of reading this thread, I still believe that I can explain my position to the people. And that most people will understand it.

And since no one here is PAYING for the game... fuck-em..?!

Nope.

Some people here are repeatedly cheated by developers, some are disappointed with empty promises and don't believe anyone else, some have a difficult financial situation, some just don't like my game, that's happens and totally normal and some simply don't understand why they have to pay for what they can get for free, and this is also a valid opinion. =)

I understand them all.

Just because they don't pay me money doesn't mean I should pay less attention to them or their problems.

They still support me when they still remember the game, the last update of which was 5 months ago.
They still support me when they write that they're waiting for my game.
They still support me when they write that they will show patience.
They still support me when they write kind words.
They still support me when they mention my game in other discussions or give my game "like" or rate the thread.


I think most of those who support me on patreon came from this forum.
And without this forum, it is unlikely that the game would have started to be developed.

There are a lot of great guys here who write useful and interesting comments.
A lot of people have been writing to me in PM offering their help.

I will always be here and I will always answer people and read messages. Even if it's hard sometimes.

I'm not going to lock myself in a "room" where everyone loves me. Of course it's simple and pleasant.

But it's not that interesting.

Spoiler: Thank you all, guys

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daz 3d

Daz 3d, Zbrush, Substance Painter, Photoshop, Lightroom

 

[PimbyBoink]

Can you stop being so reasonable? Geez! It disturbs the space-time continuum.

 

[BigBrotherrrr]

People can unsubscribe from any developer at any time. Or they can only pay for an update.
The patreon site is not for selling games. It's for supporting people.

The fact that no one makes people support developers and that they can unsubscribe any time, doesn't mean that everything is fine. After all if there are such devs as Erosion Games, the creator of Dual Family, and the one you mentioned, then something's clearly wrong with that system.

I don't think there are enough people who can say negative things, I can see there are almost none. So that's one of the reasons I write all this. Because, just like you, I don't want you to lock yourself in the room where everyone loves you. And because I prefer to see things how they are and not how I want them to be, and raise the voice when something has to be said. You see, if I hadn't said it, no one would. And there IS a problem with your schedule, not with your speed of work, not with your writing, not with your renders (well to be honest, partly, yes, there is, you've seen what I posted before ). And the fact that after these inconveniences which led to what we have today, some people say that you should resume your patreon page, even though there's a very good reason why it's paused, makes me want protest and say that something's wrong. There's only one thing that stops a dev from becoming a milker: self-restraint. There really is nothing more, you could just say "duck them", like some little brats suggested above, resume your patreon page, and become another dev that everyone hates eventually.

Btw, I really like your game. When I first played it I was blown away. I thought, "Wow, I didn't think such a game could exist!". But there are more than enough people who told you that, so... I just said what had to be said. Don't become a milker, and give us more previews .

you're just embarrassing yourself. if you're unhappy with how the project is going, just cancel your patreon sub ( if you have one ) or stop following the thread. so much fucking drama in every thread by impatient little brats

I'm really not embarrassing myself. Why after this statement you're giving me this stupid advice right away, like I asked for one? You're embarrassing yourself. If you have nothing to say, just stay silent. That's my advice. How you like it, you... oh, I'm sorry, not you... khm all them ignorant little brats.

 

[SpikeZg]

we love you ttll
you just keep being awesome

 

[randursel]

I don't think there are enough people who can say negative things, I can see there are almost none.

Agree, except I'd used the word "constructive" instead of "negative". One can point out weaknesses in something and be constructive. What I quote from you is something I see as a constructive statement, not a negative one.

 

[Deleted member 12408]

Spoiler: Thank you all, guys

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Am i wrong or Lora's boobs becoming bigger? Too much for my taste...

 

[RainMan92]

Am i wrong or Lora's boobs becoming bigger? Too much for my taste...

You are wrong.

 

[ttll]

doesn't mean that everything is fine.

I think it is.
If someone does not unsubscribe, then they have their reasons, and it is not up to us to judge them or decide for them.

I don't think there are enough people who can say negative things,

Just read through the thread from the very first page. For me it's more then enough, tbh. =) And there will always be more of them here. And sometimes it's really hard and painful to read.

There are many ways to criticize. We're all human and we have feelings.
Be polite and calm with me and you will get the same in return.
I'm open to dialogue, and I'm glad if someone finds a way to make my game better.

For example, Gargarlley pointed out that colorblind can't read messages on the phone. So I made a choice of background and text color. Just because one person politely asked me to.
And a dozen more little things I've fixed and I'll keep fixing them, just because someone pointed them out to me here.

I am glad that sometimes here write people who speak positively, logically and constructively. Without too much emotions, and without the feeling that I owe them something.

some people say that you should resume your patreon page

Two people. =) And of course, I immediately unpause the patreon page.... oh, no, I'm not.
Whether someone here speak positively or negatively, in that case I will continue to do what I think is right at this moment.

But there are more than enough people who told you that, so

Nope. Each feedback gives me emotions and strength to continue. Every that kind of message is important to me.

Don't become a milker

Your milker in another castle BigBrotherrrr =)

and give us more previews

If you'd said it that way right away, I wouldn't have corrected you.
But you started saying I only showed the preview three times, which is not true.

 

[BigBrotherrrr]

I think it is.
If someone does not unsubscribe, then they have their reasons, and it is not up to us to judge them or decide for them.

Have you ever heard about MMM?

If you'd said it that way right away, I wouldn't have corrected you.
But you started saying I only showed the preview three times, which is not true.

Yeah, well, I've seen only four, and one of them was in low resolution so I didn't pay much attention and forgot about it. And the point is that they're all kinda cut and for us, plebs, it's too little. I wish you'd give us more previews or at least some "uncut" ones.

 

[ttll]

about MMM?

I've heard. And if you think it's the same thing, I don't think we have anything else to discuss.
I've made my point, and I have no intention of convincing you.

give us more previews

I did. A couple of messages above. Two renders.
Did you give to this message a "like"? No. Did you mention that previews in your message? No.
Why do you notice things that I don't do while at the same time you can't even do these little things? =)

I don't think the "give us more" thing is a criticism or an valid opinion. Of course everyone wants more things. Renders, updates, previews, choices and so on.
It's obvious.

 

[BigBrotherrrr]

I've heard. And if you think it's the same thing, I don't think we have anything else to discuss.
I've made my point, and I have no intention of convincing you.

Well, I didn't say it's the same thing, it's just an example, that If people decide to put their money in something, it doesn't mean, that there's no one to blame if they lose them. But never mind.

I did. A couple of messages above. Two renders.
Did you give to this message a "like"? No. Did you mention that previews in your message? No.
Why do you notice things that I don't do while at the same time you can't even do these little things? =)

Yes, I've seen them, very cool, jeez. I was talking in general terms.

I don't think the "give us more" thing is a criticism or an valid opinion. Of course everyone wants more things. Renders, updates, previews, choices and so on.
It's obvious.

That is why I put "I wish" there. Chill, bro .

 

[Deleted member 1816167]

Your game has the potential to become one of the best adult games. I hope you find a way to make the game development faster, at this rate you won't be able to complete this game in 7 years.. by then i'll probably have kids and won't have time to play adult games

 

[Deleted member 12408]

Your game has the potential to become one of the best adult games. I hope you find a way to make the game development faster, at this rate you won't be able to complete this game in 7 years.. by then i'll probably have kids and won't have time to play adult games

But your kids will. Isn't it great?!

 

[axmed050505]

Ttll is genius and perfectionist. Models are incredible. Plz more content with mother, 80% of fans here because of this.
But I have question. Is shota legal in Russia? Ttll, are u russian? Ты же не будешь иметь проблем с этим? Очень волнуюсь, что тебя могут посадить на бутылку и ты перестанешь делать эту игру
Алсо если ты русский, то не имеешь ли ты проблем с налоговой, или у патреона все схвачено с этим?
И почему не создаешь треды на дваче? Я думаю там много любителей того что ты делаешь.

 

[ttll]

russian

Yeah. I don't have any problems for now, thx.

А на дваче, думаю, и без меня разберутся.)

 

[randursel]

Am i wrong or Lora's boobs becoming bigger? Too much for my taste...

Can't actually say, but I'm not complaining if they are

 

[randursel]

Well, I didn't say it's the same thing, it's just an example, that If people decide to put their money in something, it doesn't mean, that there's no one to blame if they lose them.

Lose them? That doesn't sound like supporting someone but trying to buy something. When I want to do the latter I wait until there is a finished product (which in this case would be free). I guess one can see it as an investment instead if one wants to (but a stupid kind of investment financially - and, yes, I have pledged several kickstarter campaigns).

 

[Kakato]

Interacting with others is one Golden Rule few developpers understand. Thank you ttll for doing it, even though you're not obliged to do so. What many people hate here is when devs play the " silent card". You're not like that and from what I read, you speak with an undeniable honesty. At first, I, like many others, thought that you were Aortta. To all guys still thinking that, let me tell you that Aortta is the perfect example of bad communication. He never cared when ppl kept harrassing him to give some news. Don't forget that.