Saraf

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Starting the endgame at this point is a...curious decision...and quite frigging evil at that.
Sad Belle is too much for me to handle,at last enough that Im seriously considering putting off the endgame till her path is finished(whatever form that might take).

That aside,am I the only one who was surprised Lilith isnt a virgin?
I guess there were the Thaddeus hints but...that still came somewhat out of left field considering how much political worth that should technically have for a princess(and considering the personality she displayed in the flashback she didnt really seem like the type to just ignore her role as one either,even if its a dimished one).
 

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Starting the endgame at this point is a...curious decision...and quite frigging evil at that.
Sad Belle is too much for me to handle,at last enough that Im seriously considering putting off the endgame till her path is finished(whatever form that might take).

That aside,am I the only one who was surprised Lilith isnt a virgin?
I guess there were the Thaddeus hints but...that still came somewhat out of left field considering how much political worth that should technically have for a princess(and considering the personality she displayed in the flashback she didnt really seem like the type to just ignore her role as one either,even if its a dimished one).
You know a girl can loose her V-card by physical activities aswell... like riding to fast or bending her body in otherwise unnatural ways... or falling down from the battlement.
 

Saraf

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You know a girl can loose her V-card by physical activities aswell... like riding to fast or bending her body in otherwise unnatural ways... or falling down from the battlement.
Yes I had that thought as well but the dialogue doesnt really hint towards it(in fact one of her dialogue variants kinda muddles it with "Im the first you had in a long time,huh?" "Yes,for a long time",which would be a somewhat weird response towards taking a real dick for the first time even if her activities with her sister are meant).
Couple that with how the game is rather heavy handed with maidenhood/first times otherwise and the possible subtlety leaves me a bit confused.
Might just be overanalytical on my part but maybe Belle could clear that up?
 

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EDIT: Someone above said charisma is tied to finishing relationships must I make the sister not dislike incest and the reject her? To "finish the relationship"
Nell and primrose you can reject and still get the charisma point. With Evelyn, you need to get into her relationship for the point(After convincing her incest is good, etc.). Same with Samarra, you need to have fucked her after beating her in the duel. You get the point after talking to her later in her tent.
 

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Yes I had that thought as well but the dialogue doesnt really hint towards it(in fact one of her dialogue variants kinda muddles it with "Im the first you had in a long time,huh?" "Yes,for a long time",which would be a somewhat weird response towards taking a real dick for the first time even if her activities with her sister are meant).
Couple that with how the game is rather heavy handed with maidenhood/first times otherwise and the possible subtlety leaves me a bit confused.
Might just be overanalytical on my part but maybe Belle could clear that up?
I quote... "It doesn't help that I haven't been physically close with anyone but..." "...Your Sister?" "I didn't say that"
Also I have been wondering why conspiracy talk has stopped since last Update.
Personally I think we have learned the identity of Mereks murder from Lilith dureing our confrontation of her dureing the probe mind skill.
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gotta admit I am currious if my assumptions are correct... but I thought about it for awhile and am pretty confident
 
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Saraf

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I quote... "It doesn't help that I haven't been physically close with anyone but..." "...Your Sister?" "I didn't say that"
Now this might be a genuine translation fuck up on my part but doesnt that just indicate she hasnt been with anyone since her sister(which the game indeed states)?
 

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Now this might be a genuine translation fuck up on my part but doesnt that just indicate she hasnt been with anyone since her sister(which the game indeed states)?
I am not a native english speaker myself... but I am pretty sure she would have stated that in order to cover up the fact that she was in a physical romantic relationship with her sister.
From the very biginning she had a rather volatile position to Incest. Considering all that useing a male lover as an excuse seems more like her
 

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I am not a native english speaker myself... but I am pretty sure she would have stated that in order to cover up the fact that she was in a physical romantic relationship with her sister.
From the very biginning she had a rather volatile position to Incest. Considering all that useing a male lover as an excuse seems more like her
I completely agree(in fact that was my first interpretation of the situation as well,to the point that the initial draft of my post was outright asking for clarification)but something about that sentence seems...off.
The lack of a time modifier in the given context really throws me for a loop.
This is the first time in over 2 decades that Im second guessing my own translation which is making me rather itchy. xD
Present perfect be damned.
 

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I completely agree(in fact that was my first interpretation of the situation as well,to the point that the initial draft of my post was outright asking for clarification)but something about that sentence seems...off.
The lack of a time modifier in the given context really throws me for a loop.
This is the first time in over 2 decades that Im second guessing my own translation which is making me rather itchy. xD
Present perfect be damned.
I mean there were several chances before and after that line to add... "ever since that fateful day"... also all modesty aside I am pretty sure Lilith understood that you are completly aware of her special relationship to her sister after completing her sentence perfectly... if anything I was suprised how little that seemed to affect her... but she might have guessed as much after the show down with the Leanè Sidhe and you probing her memories about her sister
 

Saraf

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I mean there were several chances before and after that line to add... "ever since that fateful day"... also all modesty aside I am pretty sure Lilith understood that you are completly aware of her special relationship to her sister after completing her sentence perfectly... if anything I was suprised how little that seemed to affect her... but she might have guessed as much after the show down with the Leanè Sidhe and you probing her memories about her sister
Just as there are several chances to add in a form of "never" to factualize the point.
Going with what a scrip doesnt outright state always has a margin of error to misinterpret the authors intentions.
Having said that,Im going to take Belle´s silence on the matter as well as me seemingly being the only person getting that impression as me just having misunderstood the scene so fair enough(that or I actually hit a point with the Thaddeus thing thats not supposed to be revealed yet...hah,right).

Though if thats the case I do think the scene misses out on fully capitalizing on the kink(as the game did in the others).
Playing it up just a bit more with maybe a single sentence(or even simple modification of the "I didnt know sex could be so good"-one)could easily capizalize on that without changing anything about the overall integrity of it or its characters but thats personal preference and neither here nor there I suppose.
 

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Finally was able to play the last update, best yet.
Impressed the dev referenced the concept of the geas.
Belle definitely seems to have a greater knowledge of Fae myth and Celtic history.
 
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The walkthrough says I need to ask Primrose for family records to continue with Evelyn's story, but I'm not getting the option. I've looking everywhere at this point, with no luck.
My first casual run without a walkthrough to guide me, I lost the ability to find the grave secrets for both of them. I had to go back an do it again.
Now this might be a genuine translation fuck up on my part but doesnt that just indicate she hasnt been with anyone since her sister(which the game indeed states)?
No, it's pretty clear. She strongly implies she was not talking about her sister, but someone else.
 

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No, it's pretty clear. She strongly implies she was not talking about her sister, but someone else.
You know if people are found doing something they aren't supposed to they tend to lie... and her refusal was quiet weak aswell.
More like a Tsundere "I don't like you you know?"
 

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I quote... "It doesn't help that I haven't been physically close with anyone but..." "...Your Sister?" "I didn't say that"
Also I have been wondering why conspiracy talk has stopped since last Update.
Personally I think we have learned the identity of Mereks murder from Lilith dureing our confrontation of her dureing the probe mind skill.
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gotta admit I am currious if my assumptions are correct... but I thought about it for awhile and am pretty confident
he is already near the princess then, why waiting the coronation when he could kill her already? don't make sense
 
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