Holy Bacchus

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So, that was a very short update even for this VN after all that time "on-hold". :( I hope this was just a minor blip in form given the issues they've been having and that it can get back to its former self in future updates.
 

EZ8lt

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I suspect that Haley rather likes Lisa for that girl's free-thinking attitude. The territorial issue consists of any of the LI's actually sleeping with the MC in their bed. She makes that perfectly clear in this episode. I tend to take her word in such matters. It is the fact that she and the MC spend the night together whenever possible that gives her comfort; if anyone intrudes on that privilege, Haley loses her sense of being protected by her brother. As insecure as she is, Haley needs that sense of protection.

So she basically tells the MC, 'Hey, Bro, if you really like some girl, you can fuck her; you can even fuck her in our bed; just don't fall asleep with her on it! That's MY job!'

EDIT: The MC and Haley don't just sleep together, they literally cling to each other.
It's not only about this update, but the previous one as well. During the club scene and back home she was already contradictory a bit.On one hand she pushed the MC to go for it, but on the other hand, she had snarky comments and grimaces when Lisa was too pushy or clingy, and unlike when she snarks about other girls, it did felt like she was bothered by it to an extent. This update did continue the tendency, she giving her space and help, but then getting visibly upset when the "side-chick" was still there when she went back home. I'm not sure if this is the beginning of a "more selfish, less sharing" Haley on the solo route, or it's just about Lisa, and the case of two pipers in one tavern because of their somewhat similar characteristics, but neither Adriana or Diane seemed to "bother" her this much.
 
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Walter Victor

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that's funny, The MC has fucked 6-7 other women in the game.:D when you love a girl you don't look at other women.
In real life, for most people, that is correct. But it ignores the fact the some loving couples do engage in a swinging lifestyle. It happens and should not be ignored. Nor am I going to judge those people and say that the don't really love each other.

But let us not forget that this is a porn game. Many rules and customs that exist in real life are stretched or ignored in games promoted on this site. Of course, anyone is free to ignore such games if a game strays too far from what any one individual might think is a step too far.

In this game, Haley and the MC have formed a symbiotic relationship, whereby each one feels incomplete and threatened without the presence of the other. Haley, in particular, will accept almost anything from the MC, including sex with other women, as long as he stays with her as her lover and protector. The MC, for his part, would kill if he had to, to protect Haley.

There is no doubt that those two love each other in every sense of the word.
 

Walter Victor

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It's not only about this update, but the previous one as well. During the club scene and back home she was already contradictory a bit.On one hand she pushed the MC to go for it, but on the other hand, she had snarky comments and grimaces when Lisa was too pushy or clingy, and unlike when she snarks about other girls, it did felt like she was bothered by it to an extent. This update did continue the tendency, she giving her space and help, but then getting visibly upset when the "side-chick" was still there when she went back home. I'm not sure if this is the beginning of a "more selfish, less sharing" Haley on the solo route, or it's just about Lisa, and the case of two pipers in one tavern because of their somewhat similar characteristics, but neither Adriana or Diane seemed to "bother" her this much.
It may be irrelevant what Haley thinks about Lisa or any of the other girls that the MC is having sex with. I don't believe that a long-term relationship will be formed with any of them for the MC in that route.

Let us not forget Haley's relationship with the other potential LIs. Adriana is her boss. Diane is her friend. She doesn't even know about Alana. Naturally, Haley's remarks concerning those ladies will be different. Even so, Haley often teases the MC mercilessly whenever he has to see Adriana.

That brings us to Sandra. If we recall earlier in the game, Haley was relentless in her comments regarding Sandra and 'Muffin'. It sure didn't stop Haley from accepting Sandra when it suited her, and to persuade the MC to relinquish his other love interests.

I believe it is all part of Haley's nature to persistently and continually tease the MC and joke about just about everything.
 

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In real life, for most people, that is correct. But it ignores the fact the some loving couples do engage in a swinging lifestyle. It happens and should not be ignored. Nor am I going to judge those people and say that the don't really love each other.

But let us not forget that this is a porn game. Many rules and customs that exist in real life are stretched or ignored in games promoted on this site. Of course, anyone is free to ignore such games if a game strays too far from what any one individual might think is a step too far.

In this game, Haley and the MC have formed a symbiotic relationship, whereby each one feels incomplete and threatened without the presence of the other. Haley, in particular, will accept almost anything from the MC, including sex with other women, as long as he stays with her as her lover and protector. The MC, for his part, would kill if he had to, to protect Haley.

There is no doubt that those two love each other in every sense of the word.
to accept your opinion, but there is another question after what you wrote,why has the Haley not cheated on the MC with another man?
 
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Cartageno

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to accept your opinion, but there is another question after what you wrote,why has the Haley not cheated on the MC with another man?
Answer is pretty much the same though. This is a game which caters to players' fantasies. Some fancy the girl having some fun on the side, some don't. This seems to be a game catering to the latter audience.
 

EZ8lt

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That brings us to Sandra. If we recall earlier in the game, Haley was relentless in her comments regarding Sandra and 'Muffin'. It sure didn't stop Haley from accepting Sandra when it suited her, and to persuade the MC to relinquish his other love interests.

I believe it is all part of Haley's nature to persistently and continually tease the MC and joke about just about everything.
That's the point though, with the others, she was teasing. With Lisa, beside the teasing, she visibly seemed upset a few times now, that's what makes it different.

On the Sandra route, since you don't break up with her, she has to accept the relationship overtime and that's why she formulates the "plan", on the non-Sandra, there's no commitment, hence why maybe it's why her selfish side kicks in.
 
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Ziltoid

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I believe they were talking about Haley's past relation with a teacher while she was a minor, not that the MC abused the sister.
I know it! We still haven't seen any of it, there were only mentions... and i didn't say they said mc abused her, just that i think they (MC/Haley) relationship cute.
 
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Walter Victor

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to accept your opinion, but there is another question after what you wrote,why has the Haley not cheated on the MC with another man?
Because that's not the game these developers wanted to create. So they portray Haley as someone who only really loves the MC and doesn't want anything to do with another guy. The MC, however, is portrayed as a typical single guy who likes to sleep with girls, but happens to also fall madly in love with his sister.

The arrangement that they have mutually agreed upon is that he gets to sleep around, but she doesn't. It is the story that we have. It's actually a pretty common one in porn games, when you have a male protagonist.
 
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From Ptolemy in Discord, just now:
"We've been contacted by Patreon's Trust & Safety team regarding Haley.
We'll need to make some changes to the game before our next release. And make the appropriate patches, of course.
This will delay the 5$ tier release date".
Honestly rather amazed the Devs were able to get the story this far along before that happened.
 

ZTex

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From Ptolemy in Discord, just now:
"We've been contacted by Patreon's Trust & Safety team regarding Haley.
We'll need to make some changes to the game before our next release. And make the appropriate patches, of course.
This will delay the 5$ tier release date".
Trust and Safety team...
What a good joke. We have no trust people can be safe with fictious content.

Whatever though hopefully this is just a quick "edit" and "patch" to restore original scripts are created.
 

Walter Victor

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From Ptolemy in Discord, just now:
"We've been contacted by Patreon's Trust & Safety team regarding Haley.
We'll need to make some changes to the game before our next release. And make the appropriate patches, of course.
This will delay the 5$ tier release date".
This was inevitable. It was only time before someone who disliked this game contacted Patreon about the actual subject matter. There are certainly enough of those people that I am surprised that it took this long for someone to spill the beans.
 

Tserriednich'sNen

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From Ptolemy in Discord, just now:
"We've been contacted by Patreon's Trust & Safety team regarding Haley.
We'll need to make some changes to the game before our next release. And make the appropriate patches, of course.
This will delay the 5$ tier release date".
Well it was only a matter of time before someone snitched or Patreon would eventually crack down on HS.
 
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