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"It should be clarified that there will be no NTR against the main character of any kind."

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Literal first scene of the game, MC catches his wife cheating on him... I almost wanted to quit the game immediately. Then, after you meet up with her to talk she tells MC that she's "not interested in that moron" and has blocked all contact with him. This is a lie of course and she arranges to meet up with her lover again ONE NIGHT AFTER BEING CAUGHT. How is this not NTR? She claims to love and adore MC but her actions say otherwise, it's been nothing but lies since he returned from the business trip. I like netori and revenge stories but i don't know what to make of this one because she's clearly going to be a central character and wants to win the MC back. Her idea of making things even is letting him have sex with someone else ONCE? That's fucking hilarious considering she's been cheating on him for almost a year. It would take a miracle for her to be redeemed in my eyes. Let MC run off with Sloane instead, maybe that will teach the gold digging skank a lesson.
 

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"It should be clarified that there will be no NTR against the main character of any kind."

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Literal first scene of the game, MC catches his wife cheating on him... I almost wanted to quit the game immediately. Then, after you meet up with her to talk she tells MC that she's "not interested in that moron" and has blocked all contact with him. This is a lie of course and she arranges to meet up with her lover again ONE NIGHT AFTER BEING CAUGHT. How is this not NTR? She claims to love and adore MC but her actions say otherwise, it's been nothing but lies since he returned from the business trip. I like netori and revenge stories but i don't know what to make of this one because she's clearly going to be a central character and wants to win the MC back. Her idea of making things even is letting him have sex with someone else ONCE? That's fucking hilarious considering she's been cheating on him for almost a year. It would take a miracle for her to be redeemed in my eyes. Let MC run off with Sloane instead, maybe that will teach the gold digging skank a lesson.
By that I meant that when the MC appears on the scene that will no longer happen, the wife is one of the main parts of the game as she is the one who set the events in motion.
If you look at how the story goes you will realize that she is not the main focus or that MC wants to return with her to the marriage, the vast majority of the women in the game will have more presence and scenes than the wife.
However she has to be part of the story she is an important part of the main character's life. and certainly the source of doubt in his actual path.
The game is about teaching them a lesson.
 

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Thing is, Rue arranging to meet her lover after being caught still feels like NTR to me even if she did cancel her plan after the MC called her. The intention is what matters, not just the action. If she had been telling the truth when she said she had blocked contact with Hunus then redemption would still take a hell of a lot, but now it's damn near impossible. If she didn't find out her lover didn't actually have any money, would she have continued to fuck him? Based on her actions, the answer is yes. Rue constantly lies to the MC and while she's scared of losing him now, she doesn't show any remorse over what she's done.
 
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I dont think there is reedeming her, it is a revenge story against her and her lover/father after all. And I'm not even sure why we are getting revenge against the lover because he is just a dude that did what any dude would, which is to fuck the pussy the was presented and offered to him. It is the wife that was supposed to faithful and she was even using that guy for his money.
Honestly, I would be very surprised and disappointed if MC ends up forgiving her or if she gets a happy ending with MC. Specially considering what the dev has said:
MC still loves Rue (he says and thinks this many times). I'm sure she will suffer along the way, but i think in the end the MC will probably take her back, or this will be an option at least. That said, i don't know the dev's plans so maybe i'm wrong. As for her lover, he deserves everything that's coming to him too, this isn't the first time he cheated on his own wife.
 
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Was waiting to see if the cheating ex-wife was going to still be around, and it looks like she's gonna still be part of the story. That plus using RPGM when not even being an rpg(or something with actual gameplay) makes this game an easy skip, even if I was interested on the characters renders.
 
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I dont think there is reedeming her, it is a revenge story against her and her lover/father after all. Honestly, I would be very surprised and disappointed if MC ends up forgiving her or if she gets a happy ending with MC. Specially considering what the dev has said:
Yes. And I emphasize this, if he returns with her it would be on very different terms, although as I said several endings have been thought of.
 

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MC still loves Rue (he says and thinks this many times). I'm sure she will suffer along the way, but i think in the end the MC will probably take her back, or this will be an option at least. That said, i don't know the dev's plans so maybe i'm wrong. As for her lover, he deserves everything that's coming to him too, this isn't the first time he cheated on his own wife.
Yeah I just finished playing it and it seems thats where it is going, with him saying he "loves her" again and again and still willing to work things out with his wife even knowing she was on her way to fuck that guy yet again lmao. Like I am actually offended that the MC is even considering saving that relationship when she is lying to his face by the Nth time. Apparently we are supposed to be more angry with the lover and the wife's father than with her, like if she was a child that doesnt know better.
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I guess I'll just ignore this, what a shame because all other women look very nice but if we are going to be simping for a piece of shit like this then it is a hard pass. I should have played it entirely before making a comment lol.
 
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Here's few thoughts of mine after trying this game out.

Story is quite interesting and the usage of RPGM doesn't really bother me that much, but hopefully in future updates there is going to be more things to find out or do on the maps, without it just being go from plot point A to point B. There were few hidden scenes to find, but more will be needed for it not to feel cumbersome in my opinion. I did encounter few situations where same lines repeated for conversation for some reason, also text does need some editing and fixing up. For example in few scenes the way thoughts are represented in dialogue were missing (), and there's your average typos and grammar mistakes you might find. About NTR in the game, there was earlier comment in previous page that summed up my thoughts quite well also. How in this game the story doesn't make you feel like the intended NTR loser of a protagonist, instead it's there to give rise to the feeling of wanting to even things and then dump the cheater, with eventually basically achieving everything that the cheating wife wanted, but with other people, with hopefully you getting the option of basically rubbing it into her face. Perhaps even while banging her sister and impregnating the her in front of your future ex-wife's eyes.

Now as for the complaint i've seen in here about MC still feeling love towards the cheating bitch of a wife. It's actually quite normal for you to still have feelings of love for someone that betrayed you, shortly after you discovered about it. Humans aren't machines that can just turn off those feelings with turning off some switch. I think anyone who has gone through with hard break up, divorce, etc.... will tell you that there's quite the emotional turmoil going inside you, not just hatred or disgust towards the cheating partner, it's psychological feature of human beings. So the emotional confusion DevDaniels is representing on the story is quite accurate in that regard.

All in all, not much to see yet, except promising yet faulty start. Will be interesting to see how the paths develop and will we be able to really make our love harem that includes everyone except the future ex-wife, (she can be the slave for the harem if she really desperately begs for being given chance to redeem herself, but will always be the bottom of the list).
 
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Here's few thoughts of mine after trying this game out.

Story is quite interesting and the usage of RPGM doesn't really bother me that much, but hopefully in future updates there is going to be more things to find out or do on the maps, without it just being go from plot point A to point B. There were few hidden scenes to find, but more will be needed for it not to feel cumbersome in my opinion. I did encounter few situations where same lines repeated for conversation for some reason, also text does need some editing and fixing up. For example in few scenes the way thoughts are represented in dialogue were missing (), and there's your average typos and grammar mistakes you might find. About NTR in the game, there was earlier comment in previous page that summed up my thoughts quite well also. How in this game the story doesn't make you feel like the intended NTR loser of a protagonist, instead it's there to give rise to the feeling of wanting to even things and then dump the cheater, with eventually basically achieving everything that the cheating wife wanted, but with other people, with hopefully you getting the option of basically rubbing it into her face. Perhaps even while banging her sister and impregnating the her in front of your future ex-wife's eyes.

Now as for the complaint i've seen in here about MC still feeling love towards the cheating bitch of a wife. It's actually quite normal for you to still have feelings of love for someone that betrayed you, shortly after you discovered about it. Humans aren't machines that can just turn off those feelings with turning off some switch. I think anyone who has gone through with hard break up, divorce, etc.... will tell you that there's quite the emotional turmoil going inside you, not just hatred or disgust towards the cheating partner, it's psychological feature of human beings. So the emotional confusion DevDaniels is representing on the story is quite accurate in that regard.

All in all, not much to see yet, except promising yet faulty start. Will be interesting to see how the paths develop and will we be able to really make our love harem that includes everyone except the future ex-wife, (she can be the slave for the harem if she really desperately begs for being given chance to redeem herself, but will always be the bottom of the list).
Thank you, it seems you understood what I was going for, a human doesn't go from love to hate, and decides to throw it all away, not saying that MC is going to forgive his wife.
I'm just saying that he has mixed feelings.
Nor that he's going to come back and be a cuck.
Mc is not going to be a cuck, I already said that, he is the one who is going to perform the humiliation to his wife and her lover.
Thanks for the advices, I will take them very well into account.
 

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same here
As much as I try I can not replicate this problem, but a friend of mine had the same thing happen to him, the only thing he could do is to start the game again and it all went well, it is something that I have to check and fix.
 

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Thank you, it seems you understood what I was going for, a human doesn't go from love to hate, and decides to throw it all away, not saying that MC is going to forgive his wife.
I'm just saying that he has mixed feelings.
Nor that he's going to come back and be a cuck.
Mc is not going to be a cuck, I already said that, he is the one who is going to perform the humiliation to his wife and her lover.
Thanks for the advices, I will take them very well into account.
To give example of things i meant for player to be able to find and interact, perhaps pictures of earlier years of MC and Lyssa, her mom and aunt, in Lyssa's apartment. With MC having some thoughts about those happy days and then later on in the game, after plot has progressed with Lyssa and her family, perhaps same pictures but different thoughts. So not everything extra needs to be nude render or sex scene, but just adding some world building in these, that will give players some extra insight into people if they bother to explore things.
 
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To give example of things i meant for player to be able to find and interact, perhaps pictures of earlier years of MC and Lyssa, her mom and aunt, in Lyssa's apartment. With MC having some thoughts about those happy days and then later on in the game, after plot has progressed with Lyssa and her family, perhaps same pictures but different thoughts. So not everything extra needs to be nude render or sex scene, but just adding some world building in these, that will give players some extra insight into people if they bother to explore things.
Thanks :D
 

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Now as for the complaint i've seen in here about MC still feeling love towards the cheating bitch of a wife. It's actually quite normal for you to still have feelings of love for someone that betrayed you, shortly after you discovered about it. Humans aren't machines that can just turn off those feelings with turning off some switch. I think anyone who has gone through with hard break up, divorce, etc.... will tell you that there's quite the emotional turmoil going inside you, not just hatred or disgust towards the cheating partner, it's psychological feature of human beings.
MC still loving Rue is not the problem for me, it's that fact that after all her lying and knowing she was on her way to cheat on him again, he's still considering taking her back! If my girlfriend ever cheated on me we would be done. Immediately. No second chances no matter how much i love her. Trust is important and Rue has shown that she can't be trusted. I don't hate the game and may come back to it once we get to the humiliation of the wife and her lover but so far i've found the MC's attitude frustrating.
 

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MC still loving Rue is not the problem for me, it's that fact that after all her lying and knowing she was on her way to cheat on him again, he's still considering taking her back! If my girlfriend ever cheated on me we would be done. Immediately. No second chances no matter how much i love her. Trust is important and Rue has shown that she can't be trusted. I don't hate the game and may come back to it once we get to the humiliation of the wife and her lover but so far i've found the MC's attitude frustrating.
That is if you are thinking rationally, but people rarely are thinking rationally in this kind of situation, where there's only been such a short time since the discovery and the shock. Tbh based on my experiences and observation of real world and people in it, MC is actually acting more rationally than most would in that situation, with him keeping his calm on the first night and immediately going for the divorce lawyer and bank to settle matters on the next morning. Especially considering how much MC says his wife meant for him, that he was even willing to sacrifice his relationships with his friends and family to satisfy her. You don't just get out of those feelings easily. It will take time and effort, if you had any real emotional connection with her. I can understand it feels frustrating in the eyes of someone who is not MC, but IMO the story is stronger for it. If MC just went from being completely in love with his wife to completely hating her and not feeling anything positive towards her in that emotional turmoil, it would be weak writing and make MC feel like he is not human, but rather character that was written by someone who has no experience in emotions work. And that would just be boring story to see unfold and play. But each to our own and not every game is for everyone.
 

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MC still loving Rue is not the problem for me, it's that fact that after all her lying and knowing she was on her way to cheat on him again, he's still considering taking her back! If my girlfriend ever cheated on me we would be done. Immediately. No second chances no matter how much i love her. Trust is important and Rue has shown that she can't be trusted. I don't hate the game and may come back to it once we get to the humiliation of the wife and her lover but so far i've found the MC's attitude frustrating.
I completely understand, I am sure that when the revenge begins, things will be more clear as well as the MC's determination.
 

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I completely understand, I am sure that when the revenge begins, things will be more clear as well as the MC's determination.
Game started strong with MC keeping his cool about the situation and looking for a divorce and being introduced to hot chicks who care for him but later on...
I dont know bro, I feel like the "revenge" is aimed at the wrong people here. The one that stabbed MC in the back is the wife and she was ready to do it again inmediatly. And, the way things are going it seems like the worst she would get is being rejected by the MC and nothing else.
Instead we are focusing our revenge on her lover, why? He didnt have to faithful to us, he didnt care about us, he just wanted to get some pussy, sure he was cheating on his wife and lied about the money and bla bla bla, ok. Imagine the dad is not retarded and gets an actual rich guy who is single for her daughter, then what? The wife would have still wanted to marry him for the money, What if he didnt have a micropenis and the sex was actually enjoyable to her?. So in the end, why would he be at fault? It is a beautiful woman throwing herself at him wanting to marry him.
Then there is the dad who is a bad person and everyone knows it, but again, he didnt drug or forced the wife to cheat, he barely talked her into it and nothing else, you can get told stupid ideas by anyone but it is your decision if you want to go with them after assesing the pros and cons. Why would mc want to get revenge on him, if anything he should be thankful to him for finally exposing the wife as the whore that she is. Its not like when you commit a crime you just say "he gave me the idea, im innocent lol"
All in all, this is the story of a revenge that is not aimed at the actual perpetrator of the betrayal, the wife, so it is pretty weak imo.
I get that you cant get rid of feelings so easily, but surely having your wife wanting to cheat yet again and lying in your face about it would do it. What else does she have to do? Run you over with her car?
I felt like I was playing simp simulator and the game was trying hard to gaslight the player into blaming the lover and the dad, when in my opinion, they did nothing wrong at least to MC. The one the was supposed to love him and be faithful to him was the wife and she will get off easy either by being forgiven or just being rejected, it wont go much far since mc is on great terms with her mom and (in the future) her sister and cant stop saying how he loves her
 

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By that I meant that when the MC appears on the scene that will no longer happen, the wife is one of the main parts of the game as she is the one who set the events in motion.
If you look at how the story goes you will realize that she is not the main focus or that MC wants to return with her to the marriage, the vast majority of the women in the game will have more presence and scenes than the wife.
However she has to be part of the story she is an important part of the main character's life. and certainly the source of doubt in his actual path.
The game is about teaching them a lesson.
Just to be 100% clear: I am posting here to provide constructive criticism and not to complaint or attack the developer.
I hear what you are saying, but you are at f95zone now, so you do not get to make up the rules. In here any sex is considered <insert the forbidden unspeakable three letter acronym> when it involves a partner of an mc without a prior agreement between the mc and the partner. Whether you show it before or after the mc is presented does not matter at all.
If your project is not about that stuff, then do not put it in there. Just having a single scene like that will cause a lot of people to turn around before the story even begins!
My advice for you would be to remove that scene and instead in the introduction mention that the partner of the mc has been unfaithful. Or perhaps insert a yes/no choice before that scene unfolds so that the audience can choose if they want to experience it or not. Good luck with the project!
 

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Game started strong with MC keeping his cool about the situation and looking for a divorce and being introduced to hot chicks who care for him but later on...
I dont know bro, I feel like the "revenge" is aimed at the wrong people here. The one that stabbed MC in the back is the wife and she was ready to do it again inmediatly. And, the way things are going it seems like the worst she would get is being rejected by the MC and nothing else.
Instead we are focusing our revenge on her lover, why? He didnt have to faithful to us, he didnt care about us, he just wanted to get some pussy, sure he was cheating on his wife and lied about the money and bla bla bla, ok. Imagine the dad is not retarded and gets an actual rich guy who is single for her daughter, then what? The wife would have still wanted to marry him for the money, What if he didnt have a micropenis and the sex was actually enjoyable to her?. So in the end, why would he be at fault? It is a beautiful woman throwing herself at him wanting to marry him.
Then there is the dad who is a bad person and everyone knows it, but again, he didnt drug or forced the wife to cheat, he barely talked her into it and nothing else, you can get told stupid ideas by anyone but it is your decision if you want to go with them after assesing the pros and cons. Why would mc want to get revenge on him, if anything he should be thankful to him for finally exposing the wife as the whore that she is. Its not like when you commit a crime you just say "he gave me the idea, im innocent lol"
All in all, this is the story of a revenge that is not aimed at the actual perpetrator of the betrayal, the wife, so it is pretty weak imo.
I get that you cant get rid of feelings so easily, but surely having your wife wanting to cheat yet again and lying in your face about it would do it. What else does she have to do? Run you over with her car?
I felt like I was playing simp simulator and the game was trying hard to gaslight the player into blaming the lover and the dad, when in my opinion, they did nothing wrong at least to MC. The one the was supposed to love him and be faithful to him was the wife and she will get off easy either by being forgiven or just being rejected, it wont go much far since mc is on great terms with her mom and (in the future) her sister and cant stop saying how he loves her
The revenge goes against everyone, not just the lover and the wife father, and while I didn't want to say this part por que es a bit of a spoiler , the divorce is certain.
I know that it seems that against her it will not do anything, but it is not the case, that is why I introduce the sister and the wife's mother.
The only reason he does not act against his wife yet is because he still has mixed feelings for her. That will become increasingly evident as the story unfolds.
She is not a victim in this, I think I made that clear. And for me she is more to blame than the others. Therefore Mc is not going to be merciful with her, that's what I can say without giving too much spoiler
 
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