Nurikabe

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I understand that there are a lot of viewers here that enjoy the cuckold humiliation. Personally, it disgusts me and is a huge turnoff. I play all the paths because I have written a critique that criticizes the fact that the story is driven by Darrel and race play, and has very little to do with Ethan or Natalie and their growth or change as characters. That is a poorly written story that lacks focus.

That doesn't mean that there is no entertainment value here. There are lots of stories told poorly that are still entertaining and serve their purpose. It just so happens that many of those stories are NTR stories. I do not understand how these authors begin these stories well with a couple wanting to explore, and then they all devolve into a humiliated mess of a husband and a disgusting slut of a wife that has no value other than to be a prostitute or whore slave to BBC. King B would do well to write the main story he wants here: A weak minded cuckold who cannot contain his wife's sexuality. She must explore larger and larger cocks with more and more men until she has destroyed her husband, her marriage, and her life.

That is the story he wants to tell. But I think he slips in the voyeur and exhibitionist routes to try to even out the humiliation route. To please a wider audience. As a result, the story becomes ineffective, repetitive, and lacks dynamics. Now, I know there are a lot of fans on this page that would completely disagree (the facepalm brigade), and that there are fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible. My point is, that is fine for cheap erotic porn literature. It is not good for a classy story with intellect and maturity that does justice to the lifestyle of those who choose to swing or become hotwives. And it hurts this story.
 

Big Rooster

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I understand that there are a lot of viewers here that enjoy the cuckold humiliation. Personally, it disgusts me and is a huge turnoff. I play all the paths because I have written a critique that criticizes the fact that the story is driven by Darrel and race play, and has very little to do with Ethan or Natalie and their growth or change as characters. That is a poorly written story that lacks focus.

That doesn't mean that there is no entertainment value here. There are lots of stories told poorly that are still entertaining and serve their purpose. It just so happens that many of those stories are NTR stories. I do not understand how these authors begin these stories well with a couple wanting to explore, and then they all devolve into a humiliated mess of a husband and a disgusting slut of a wife that has no value other than to be a prostitute or whore slave to BBC. King B would do well to write the main story he wants here: A weak minded cuckold who cannot contain his wife's sexuality. She must explore larger and larger cocks with more and more men until she has destroyed her husband, her marriage, and her life.

That is the story he wants to tell. But I think he slips in the voyeur and exhibitionist routes to try to even out the humiliation route. To please a wider audience. As a result, the story becomes ineffective, repetitive, and lacks dynamics. Now, I know there are a lot of fans on this page that would completely disagree (the facepalm brigade), and that there are fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible. My point is, that is fine for cheap erotic porn literature. It is not good for a classy story with intellect and maturity that does justice to the lifestyle of those who choose to swing or become hotwives. And it hurts this story.
my preference of game play is that Ethan would be a strong-willed stand-up guy, with the kink of watching his wife having sex with others. But the prospect of him being reduced to a sub-sissy-cuck is really fun too!
King B is baking the cake and we're enjoying eating it too.
 

ename144

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I understand that there are a lot of viewers here that enjoy the cuckold humiliation. Personally, it disgusts me and is a huge turnoff. I play all the paths because I have written a critique that criticizes the fact that the story is driven by Darrel and race play, and has very little to do with Ethan or Natalie and their growth or change as characters. That is a poorly written story that lacks focus.

That doesn't mean that there is no entertainment value here. There are lots of stories told poorly that are still entertaining and serve their purpose. It just so happens that many of those stories are NTR stories. I do not understand how these authors begin these stories well with a couple wanting to explore, and then they all devolve into a humiliated mess of a husband and a disgusting slut of a wife that has no value other than to be a prostitute or whore slave to BBC. King B would do well to write the main story he wants here: A weak minded cuckold who cannot contain his wife's sexuality. She must explore larger and larger cocks with more and more men until she has destroyed her husband, her marriage, and her life.

That is the story he wants to tell. But I think he slips in the voyeur and exhibitionist routes to try to even out the humiliation route. To please a wider audience. As a result, the story becomes ineffective, repetitive, and lacks dynamics. Now, I know there are a lot of fans on this page that would completely disagree (the facepalm brigade), and that there are fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible. My point is, that is fine for cheap erotic porn literature. It is not good for a classy story with intellect and maturity that does justice to the lifestyle of those who choose to swing or become hotwives. And it hurts this story.
I don't think I can agree. Like you I'd find the game a lot more interesting if it focused on a mutually consensual swinging take, but that seems more like personal preference than it is an objective measure of quality. As depressingly oversaturated as the NTR/cuckold approach is, it's a valid kink in its own right and it clearly has some staying power. It's a big pond so I can't exactly blame KingB for wanting to swim in it. We can debate whether this game is a big or small fish in that pond, but at the end of the day it's his game so he gets to call the shots.

Personally, I think the actually does do a pretty decent job on the alternate paths. Yes, progress can be slow and there's a lot less content relative to the BBC-crazed-cheating-wife routes, but we still get enough to hold my interest and the quality is pretty decent. If you make the right choices it's clear that Nat (and even Darrel on occasion) respect Ethan and value his perspective. That's a substantially more than we usually get in games that permit the existence of more than one penis. The biggest misstep, IMHO, is that Ethan can't contradict Sam when he says to leave the wives alone at the swingers party, but even there Ethan is still new at this and Sam is - by all appearances - not a great role model to begin with.

So I don't think it's fair to say that trying to portray multiple routes hurts the game's objective quality. I think it's more accurate to say that it slows down development considerably and dilutes the enjoyability of the game to varying degrees depending on the path and your own tastes. Whether getting a game with a 30% swinging/60% NTR mix is better than having a game with either 100% swinging or 100% NTR is one of those glass half full/half empty questions that tend to hinge on whether your ox is the one that winds up getting gored.
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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I understand that there are a lot of viewers here that enjoy the cuckold humiliation. Personally, it disgusts me and is a huge turnoff. I play all the paths because I have written a critique that criticizes the fact that the story is driven by Darrel and race play, and has very little to do with Ethan or Natalie and their growth or change as characters. That is a poorly written story that lacks focus.

That doesn't mean that there is no entertainment value here. There are lots of stories told poorly that are still entertaining and serve their purpose. It just so happens that many of those stories are NTR stories. I do not understand how these authors begin these stories well with a couple wanting to explore, and then they all devolve into a humiliated mess of a husband and a disgusting slut of a wife that has no value other than to be a prostitute or whore slave to BBC. King B would do well to write the main story he wants here: A weak minded cuckold who cannot contain his wife's sexuality. She must explore larger and larger cocks with more and more men until she has destroyed her husband, her marriage, and her life.

That is the story he wants to tell. But I think he slips in the voyeur and exhibitionist routes to try to even out the humiliation route. To please a wider audience. As a result, the story becomes ineffective, repetitive, and lacks dynamics. Now, I know there are a lot of fans on this page that would completely disagree (the facepalm brigade), and that there are fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible. My point is, that is fine for cheap erotic porn literature. It is not good for a classy story with intellect and maturity that does justice to the lifestyle of those who choose to swing or become hotwives. And it hurts this story.
We are pretty much always on the same page. I just want to add one thought re-Devs.
It seems to me you have a split audience. Group one being the porndogs, just give them lots of porn scenes and that is fine. In Group 2 you have people like us who want a good erotic story that includes a few sex scenes. No doubt there are those in between who have a foot in both camps.

Does the Dev want to create a good story? I think most do but they also want to cover costs and make a few dollars. To do that you have to appease the wider audience and make the porndogs happy. I don't think finding that balance is easy. How many walking dildos do you bring in to the story like Daryl and Peter before story group gets bored? How much do you focus on the Nat and Ethan journey before the porndogs get bored? It makes my head spin just thinking about it haha.
 

Big Rooster

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IMO there are more than enough people and paths already.
Ethan and Nat are the protagonists, Sam and Jenna as their muses and mentors, Riya (maybe) and Darrel are the main romantic rivals or the occasional alternative playmates. Peter is their foil.
The main cast is complete, side characters can come and go, like Vance, Carl, Matt, Tavon, Jack, etc. added to spice up the story.
As much as I agree that things could get stale and devolve into just another sausagefest, there is no sign that it is... just not yet
 
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L0b0ts

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Feb 22, 2021
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I understand that there are a lot of viewers here that enjoy the cuckold humiliation. Personally, it disgusts me and is a huge turnoff. I play all the paths because I have written a critique that criticizes the fact that the story is driven by Darrel and race play, and has very little to do with Ethan or Natalie and their growth or change as characters. That is a poorly written story that lacks focus.

That doesn't mean that there is no entertainment value here. There are lots of stories told poorly that are still entertaining and serve their purpose. It just so happens that many of those stories are NTR stories. I do not understand how these authors begin these stories well with a couple wanting to explore, and then they all devolve into a humiliated mess of a husband and a disgusting slut of a wife that has no value other than to be a prostitute or whore slave to BBC. King B would do well to write the main story he wants here: A weak minded cuckold who cannot contain his wife's sexuality. She must explore larger and larger cocks with more and more men until she has destroyed her husband, her marriage, and her life.

That is the story he wants to tell. But I think he slips in the voyeur and exhibitionist routes to try to even out the humiliation route. To please a wider audience. As a result, the story becomes ineffective, repetitive, and lacks dynamics. Now, I know there are a lot of fans on this page that would completely disagree (the facepalm brigade), and that there are fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible. My point is, that is fine for cheap erotic porn literature. It is not good for a classy story with intellect and maturity that does justice to the lifestyle of those who choose to swing or become hotwives. And it hurts this story.
It's an adult porn game, get over yourself.
 

Nurikabe

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Undoubtedly, you are in the group of " fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible." That is fine. Nothing against you and that group. But I believe this game is above just that.

Calling it a "porn game" is calling it trash. A "porn game" that uses "porn logic" is nothing more than cheap porn on pornhub. Visual novels can certainly be "porn games" and serve only that purpose. I believe this game is beyond that. You could call it "elevated porn" and I would think that is doing it an injustice. This visual novel is telling a mature adult story and happens to include explicit scenes.

My point is that clearly, he wants to tell the story of the weak wife that can't resist the BBC and humiliates the husband. There are plenty of people here that support that story as much as he does. But he is trying to include all the other paths to entice readers, like me, who want more from the couple. People who want to see swinging, sharing, and a husband that is capable, loving, and can hold his own in a cock measuring competition, or pleasing his wife. I appreciate that he is including that kind of content. But it is weak and the story quickly falls apart.

Try doing the path where Nat loves her husband, Darrel respects Ethan, and the couple is together with Darrel. The hotel scene ends without warning and is quite boring. You will quickly see that there are parts of the scene that are abruptly cut. It seems that the cheating path where Ethan kicks Natalie out is going to be a stronger story. I also believe the exhibitionist path will get future updates and will be more robust.

It would be difficult for any developer to create a well-rounded story that has robust stories and renders for all the paths in this story. KingB is writing a great story —if you play the BBC, cuck humiliation path. I simply would like to see more focus on the couple, Ethan and Natalie, versus Darrel. Hopefully, we will see a strong path with Riya and Ethan getting together. Again, the cuckold fans would rather see Riya cuck Ethan. I think that would go against the story. Natalie leaves Ethan for BBC, Ethan hooks up with Riya, and Riya then hooks up with BBC. Not even "porn logic" can cover that story.

How many NTR games get to this point and then it all ends in a hasty heaping mess of open relationships gone wrong, or a cheating wife leaves for BBC, or the wife becomes cock hungry slut? Nearly all of them. If that is the story that KingB is telling, great! It's his story to tell. I'm simply adding my opinion of the weakly portrayed alternate paths. You know what they say about opinions and assholes? Everyone has one. ;)
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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Undoubtedly, you are in the group of " fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible." That is fine. Nothing against you and that group. But I believe this game is above just that.

Calling it a "porn game" is calling it trash. A "porn game" that uses "porn logic" is nothing more than cheap porn on pornhub. Visual novels can certainly be "porn games" and serve only that purpose. I believe this game is beyond that. You could call it "elevated porn" and I would think that is doing it an injustice. This visual novel is telling a mature adult story and happens to include explicit scenes.

My point is that clearly, he wants to tell the story of the weak wife that can't resist the BBC and humiliates the husband. There are plenty of people here that support that story as much as he does. But he is trying to include all the other paths to entice readers, like me, who want more from the couple. People who want to see swinging, sharing, and a husband that is capable, loving, and can hold his own in a cock measuring competition, or pleasing his wife. I appreciate that he is including that kind of content. But it is weak and the story quickly falls apart.

Try doing the path where Nat loves her husband, Darrel respects Ethan, and the couple is together with Darrel. The hotel scene ends without warning and is quite boring. You will quickly see that there are parts of the scene that are abruptly cut. It seems that the cheating path where Ethan kicks Natalie out is going to be a stronger story. I also believe the exhibitionist path will get future updates and will be more robust.

It would be difficult for any developer to create a well-rounded story that has robust stories and renders for all the paths in this story. KingB is writing a great story —if you play the BBC, cuck humiliation path. I simply would like to see more focus on the couple, Ethan and Natalie, versus Darrel. Hopefully, we will see a strong path with Riya and Ethan getting together. Again, the cuckold fans would rather see Riya cuck Ethan. I think that would go against the story. Natalie leaves Ethan for BBC, Ethan hooks up with Riya, and Riya then hooks up with BBC. Not even "porn logic" can cover that story.

How many NTR games get to this point and then it all ends in a hasty heaping mess of open relationships gone wrong, or a cheating wife leaves for BBC, or the wife becomes cock hungry slut? Nearly all of them. If that is the story that KingB is telling, great! It's his story to tell. I'm simply adding my opinion of the weakly portrayed alternate paths. You know what they say about opinions and assholes? Everyone has one. ;)
My eyes my eyes! You want a game that is great reading erotica with non-NTR paths, instead of just porn trash. Blaspheme!
Yes said with sarcasm for those who didn't catch it.

On a serious note, Riya is a sweetheart, I look forward to her involvement in Ethan's various paths.
 

L0b0ts

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Feb 22, 2021
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Undoubtedly, you are in the group of " fans that don't care, they just want to see Natalie fuck as much as possible." That is fine. Nothing against you and that group. But I believe this game is above just that.

Calling it a "porn game" is calling it trash. A "porn game" that uses "porn logic" is nothing more than cheap porn on pornhub. Visual novels can certainly be "porn games" and serve only that purpose. I believe this game is beyond that. You could call it "elevated porn" and I would think that is doing it an injustice. This visual novel is telling a mature adult story and happens to include explicit scenes.

My point is that clearly, he wants to tell the story of the weak wife that can't resist the BBC and humiliates the husband. There are plenty of people here that support that story as much as he does. But he is trying to include all the other paths to entice readers, like me, who want more from the couple. People who want to see swinging, sharing, and a husband that is capable, loving, and can hold his own in a cock measuring competition, or pleasing his wife. I appreciate that he is including that kind of content. But it is weak and the story quickly falls apart.

Try doing the path where Nat loves her husband, Darrel respects Ethan, and the couple is together with Darrel. The hotel scene ends without warning and is quite boring. You will quickly see that there are parts of the scene that are abruptly cut. It seems that the cheating path where Ethan kicks Natalie out is going to be a stronger story. I also believe the exhibitionist path will get future updates and will be more robust.

It would be difficult for any developer to create a well-rounded story that has robust stories and renders for all the paths in this story. KingB is writing a great story —if you play the BBC, cuck humiliation path. I simply would like to see more focus on the couple, Ethan and Natalie, versus Darrel. Hopefully, we will see a strong path with Riya and Ethan getting together. Again, the cuckold fans would rather see Riya cuck Ethan. I think that would go against the story. Natalie leaves Ethan for BBC, Ethan hooks up with Riya, and Riya then hooks up with BBC. Not even "porn logic" can cover that story.

How many NTR games get to this point and then it all ends in a hasty heaping mess of open relationships gone wrong, or a cheating wife leaves for BBC, or the wife becomes cock hungry slut? Nearly all of them. If that is the story that KingB is telling, great! It's his story to tell. I'm simply adding my opinion of the weakly portrayed alternate paths. You know what they say about opinions and assholes? Everyone has one. ;)
You are wrong you are just speaking shit.
 
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