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Morpheas

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You can't sugar coat pirates being pirates. That is basically the MO of the internet. When somebody is selling something and we dl it for free, we are pirates and thieves, no nice way to say it. There are tons of reasons that people pirate, none of them are good, so there is no point trying to make yourself, me, and other pirates look like we do no wrong. I know the difference between right and wrong, and I am sure you do too.

Now one thing most people and businesses who make content have no clue about and that is how to combat piracy. Take the music industry, all people want is affordable music they like available in an easy manner. Me, I would love to be able to order cd's with the exact music I want on it, printed in lossless format for highest quality, and shipped to me. To my knowledge, there is no option like that for me because the music industry doesn't want everybody to get the exact songs they want. They want to sell me 5 cd's with 1 to 2 songs per cd I like, and the rest I don't like, just so they make me buy 5 cd's to get the small amount of music I want. It is at that point that I cease caring about highest quality and hit up youtube or other places. They are blind on how to tackle piracy. As Steam has proven, offer an awesome service, and the money and people will come.

What folks do with patreon and other services on the internet, well, their choice, but many of them way over value their time and effort. I will never back a patreon for $20 unless I get a meaty demo and the game proves itself in that demo. And even then, I will not sign up for $20 a month, it will be a one time payment after the project is finished. I don't earn money to support another person who may or may not be doing good work. All of us here know how big a scam Patreon can be, well, not Patreon, but those who try to use it to milk people who trust them by giving them a monthly paycheck. So far I can honestly say there are less than 10 games, out of the 100+ I have tried here, that I would outright buy. A third of them are on the popular games part of the game forum.

As for people who try to block pirates, as others have said, there are more games out there than people can count, if one makes it hard, we move on. The content creator loses those who give a damn about their game, they lose word of mouth, they lose potential cash. Their choice.

Anyway, stopping here. I can discuss this topic till the cows come home.
No sorry, I strongly disagree.
I am not sugar coating anything, the act of stealing is taking something that belongs to someone else.
If I were to take your PC (or mac whatever) without your permission, you lose your PC and I gain that for myself.
That would very much be stealing.

If someone copies a song onto their hard drive, the person who owns the original copy of the song doesnt lose anything, therefore that cannot possibly count as an act of theft. No one loses that song.
The file is literally created the moment it is copied, and doesnt cost anything.

Sure, the creators might lose some potential income, but they dont literally lose any of their work, no one can take that away from them.

If you cant understand that, then I dont know what else to tell you, its simple logic really.
 

Summer Love

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No sorry, I strongly disagree.
I am not sugar coating anything, the act of stealing is taking something that belongs to someone else.
If I were to take your PC (or mac whatever) without your permission, you lose your PC and I gain that for myself.
That would very much be stealing.

If someone copies a song onto their hard drive, the person who owns the original copy of the song doesnt lose anything, therefore that cannot possibly count as an act of theft. No one loses that song.
The file is literally created the moment it is copied, and doesnt cost anything.

Sure, the creators might lose some potential income, but they dont literally lose any of their work, no one can take that away from them.

If you cant understand that, then I dont know what else to tell you, its simple logic really.
You are debating semantics. If 4000 people have a song, then the maker of that song should make 0.99 cents for each of those people that have that song regardless of where they got it from. According to your world however, only 750 actually paid for that song and the artist can't do anything about it because under your definition it isn't "stealing".
 

master110

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This is dsp3000, the creator of the Academy series.

I've registered here for one reason and one reason only and that is to politely request that downloads, links and file shares for my games are removed from this site.
Hopefully many of you can appreciate that creating games like these takes significant amounts of time, resources and energy.
To have my creations shared illegally means that I lose a significant proportion of my income, and I cannot and will not work for free.
I'm sure I can speak for many in the creative industries when I state that sites that actively promote illegal file sharing jeopardize the creation of future games.
If you enjoy playing these games then you need to support the creators otherwise they will stop creating.

Please can one of the moderators contact me to discuss further.
LMAO GOODLUCK
 

Evis

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No sorry, I strongly disagree.
I am not sugar coating anything, the act of stealing is taking something that belongs to someone else.
If I were to take your PC (or mac whatever) without your permission, you lose your PC and I gain that for myself.
That would very much be stealing.

If someone copies a song onto their hard drive, the person who owns the original copy of the song doesnt lose anything, therefore that cannot possibly count as an act of theft. No one loses that song.
The file is literally created the moment it is copied, and doesnt cost anything.

Sure, the creators might lose some potential income, but they dont literally lose any of their work, no one can take that away from them.

If you cant understand that, then I dont know what else to tell you, its simple logic really.
My thoughts:
DSP is creating a game. He shares it on VDG for paying members. They then download it. Are they from then on the rightful owner of that copy they have downloaded? I think so, because they paid for it. ( I might be wrong, it's a bit misty because there is the question of copyright, which is in the hands of DSP).

Say i am right, then the paying owner can do whatever they want with it, including reupload and share with this forum.
 
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Morpheas

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Not going to argue with you guys about this, as this is irrelevant to the topic, and we are starting to turn this thread into something else.

I agree with some of your views, and disagree with others.
 

brandyfan723

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Digit 10 of the code at the beginning is for bridgette_lust, and 7 appears to be for setting it to 50. How come whenever I enter it her lust is always at fucking 35? Stupid game.
 
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master110

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Not sure why DSP is here whining but there website for about 5 years had a backdoor into playing free.

Pass and username ( no text just press enter) Took him five years to fix that lmao


This game sucks ass and I'd never pay for it.


Four eyes with huge monster boobs.
 
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Summer Love

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My thoughts:
DSP is creating a game. He shares it on VDG for paying members. They then download it. Are they from then on the rightful owner of that copy they have downloaded? I think so, because they paid for it. ( I might be wrong, it's a bit misty because there is the question of copyright, which is in the hands of DSP).

Say i am right, then the paying owner can do whatever they want with it, including reupload and share with this forum.
That is a grey area because DSP3000 doesn't have a terms and conditions agreement between himself and his "customers". As it is, he can't really do anything except politely ask for his games to be taken down because it isn't specified in legalese whether his games are pay-to-own or pay-to-use.
 

Sathonus

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My thoughts:
DSP is creating a game. He shares it on VDG for paying members. They then download it. Are they from then on the rightful owner of that copy they have downloaded? I think so, because they paid for it. ( I might be wrong, it's a bit misty because there is the question of copyright, which is in the hands of DSP).

Say i am right, then the paying owner can do whatever they want with it, including reupload and share with this forum.
I would strongly advise you not to use that argument in court.

Copyright law (eg. the Berne Convention) gives copyright holders certain automatic rights, one of which is the right to control how their works are distributed. Paying for a copy of that work does not confer that right on you, unless the owner specifically says so.

If the law worked as you claim, Napster would never have been shut down, and the RIAA and MPAA wouldn't have received draconian damage claims against copyright infringers.
 
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Sathonus

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Digit 10 of the code at the beginning is for bridgette_lust, and 7 appears to be for setting it to 50. How come whenever I enter it her lust is always at fucking 35? Stupid game.
The code generation for this in Part 1 appears to be different from what Part 2 expects:

ie. in Part 1, if bridgette_lust is 40 or less, you get an 8, if it's between 41 & 54, you get a 9, and if it's over 54 you get a 7.

But in Part 2, if you enter a 7 you get 38 bridgette_lust, if you enter a 9 you get 42 bridgette_lust, and if you enter an 8 you get 50 bridgette_lust
 
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Evis

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I would strongly advise you not to use that argument in court.

Copyright law (eg. the Berne Convention) gives copyright holders certain automatic rights, one of which is the right to control how their works are distributed. Paying for a copy of that work does not confer that right on you, unless the owner specifically says so.

If the law worked as you claim, Napster would never have been shut down, and the RIAA and MPAA wouldn't have received draconian damage claims against copyright infringers.
Thanks for your insights. Duly noted.
 
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