alex13_zen

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any VN with "tsundere" LI (use search for keyword), that's her obvious character archetype
to each their own i guess, never understood appeal of those characters - "wanna play tsuntsun? fine, i have another five girls waiting in line and no patience for your bullshit, you can tsuntsun with your dozen cats how much you want"
Vanessa isn't tsundere because she doesn't have emotional swings. She's just learning to not be so guarded all the time.
 

ThaDude1977

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I enjoy this game, but I still don't see how this is going to end up a harem game. The characters are all pretty complicated and they don't really have a lot in common with each other. I can see how some might end up a semi harem with Erika and the MC, but I'm confused how people like Vanessa, Riley, your professor, etc could end up in this.
To be fair the Li don't have to get along with each other to be a harem they just gotta like the MC. But that's just me idk.
 
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All right I have to get a few things off my chest while I'm here in chapter 10. I honestly like a lot of slow burn games but I'm going to have to say that Riley and Vanessa are just way too slow for my liking. Frankly speaking it's so slow that despite the MC's flirting attempts, I've pretty much lost all interest in both of them as characters. I haven't played ch 10 completely or 11 but it's honestly gotten to a point where I feel like even if they were lying down in front of me spreadeagle, I wouldn't give a shit anymore.
 
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alex13_zen

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All right I have to get a few things off my chest while I'm here in chapter 10. I honestly like a lot of slow burn games but I'm going to have to say that Riley and Vanessa are just way too slow for my liking. Frankly speaking it's so slow that despite the MC's flirting attempts, I've pretty much lost all interest in both of them as characters. I haven't played ch 10 completely or 11 but it's honestly gotten to a point where I feel like even if they were lying down in front of me spreadeagle, I wouldn't give a shit anymore.
Would be nice if we could have a bit of revenge somehow. E.g. completely cut Riley off from our lives, and seeing clear regret in her. Would give some long-awaited satisfaction.

But the biggest problem is that after 3 years and over 10 chapters, the expectations from future romantic/lewd scenes with Vanessa and Riley have become huge if they are to justify the waiting time. Such scenes couldn't measure up even for normal characters, let alone ones so reserved and guarded.

All writers make mistakes, and the game has some good content nonetheless.
 

Blernblern

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Would be nice if we could have a bit of revenge somehow. E.g. completely cut Riley off from our lives, and seeing clear regret in her. Would give some long-awaited satisfaction.

But the biggest problem is that after 3 years and over 10 chapters, the expectations from future romantic/lewd scenes with Vanessa and Riley have become huge if they are to justify the waiting time. Such scenes couldn't measure up even for normal characters, let alone ones so reserved and guarded.

All writers make mistakes, and the game has some good content nonetheless.
I completely agree with your post, and yes the game is mostly very enjoyable.
 
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kov1974

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This is one of my fav games, I have just done the whole playthrough again.

I like the idea of the joking around, it has made me chuckle a lot.

Can't wait for an update. Keep it going.

Thanks
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MarsUltor

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With regard to all of the Vanessa/Riley slow-burn hate, I'd like to express a contrasting point of view...

Early on in my play-through of the game, I felt like the MC had no chance with Vanessa, so I'm pleased that she is beginning to warm up to him, and I feel like the progress of that relationship is right on track, considering where she started, and her personality and issues.

When I play the game, I mentally insert myself into the role of the MC (as I suspect many others do), so yeah, my MC is a bit frustrated by Riley's current "friend-zone" tendencies, but I personally consider that good, entertaining, nuanced storytelling (if I was just looking for a quick wank, I'd go to PornHub instead). I think Riley is hot AF, so my MC is playing the long game, and holding out hope that Riley will have an epiphany, realize what a good thing she has right in front of her, get over whatever hangups she has (often not so easy IRL), and throw herself at him hard (making up for lost time...). I see her as the final boss; defeating Bowzer/King Koopa, figuratively speaking.

Keep up the great work, Venus!
 
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newdawn75

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Which is the best dialogue option when talking to vanessa, knight, joker or charmer? Because it seems like she doesn't respond well to anything but knight and just mocks everything else.
 

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Which is the best dialogue option when talking to vanessa, knight, joker or charmer? Because it seems like she doesn't respond well to anything but knight and just mocks everything else.
it doesn't seem to make a difference what you pick when comes to that for any of the women. think of it like a vanity item in a mmorpg.
 
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alex13_zen

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Which is the best dialogue option when talking to vanessa, knight, joker or charmer? Because it seems like she doesn't respond well to anything but knight and just mocks everything else.
There will be choices that are clearly marked with 'Pursue' or 'Don't Pursue' but they are different from those you are asking about. So pick whatever feels right: you might want to constantly troll her for example, do it without fear!

Trying to look for a bright side in that apparent lack of consequences, I like to think that she'll like me no matter what, and this acceptance makes her more endearing (applies to all girls ofc).
 

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Which is the best dialogue option when talking to vanessa, knight, joker or charmer? Because it seems like she doesn't respond well to anything but knight and just mocks everything else.
Like others have said, it doesnt matter, but joker probably works better for the flow of conversations since their whole relationship revolves around her being too serious and him not being serious enough
 

newdawn75

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I know this game is tagged as a Harem, But can u actually hookup with all the women without any current reprecussions? Reason I'm asking is because after u are already pursuing harlow and you get option to pursue erika a small mc monologue comes up about him already with harlow, like it could potentially hurt mc being with both. Make me wonder if harem tag was a mistake?
 

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I know this game is tagged as a Harem, But can u actually hookup with all the women without any current reprecussions? Reason I'm asking is because after u are already pursuing harlow and you get option to pursue erika a small mc monologue comes up about him already with harlow, like it could potentially hurt mc being with both. Make me wonder if harem tag was a mistake?
Harem tag means there is at least one set of four people (usually MC and three others) living together with everybody happy with the arrangement in the end. It doesn't necessarily mean everybody is available for it, nor that there won't be complaints and complications along the way. (Just as a general reminder of how tags work.)
 
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Joshy92

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Harem tag means there is at least one set of four people (usually MC and three others) living together with everybody happy with the arrangement in the end. It doesn't necessarily mean everybody is available for it, nor that there won't be complaints and complications along the way. (Just as a general reminder of how tags work.)
Plus, with the harem tag definition changing soon
It will make a harem even easier to get
Because the mc only has to be with two girls for it to be a harem
 

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Has Jordan a piercing on her lower lip ?
It appears in the threesome with Marisa (facial/cumshot scene).
Or maybe is it a graphic glitch ? :unsure:
 
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