VN Ren'Py Completed A Moment of Bliss [v5.0.1 Final] [Lockheart]

4.10 star(s) 65 Votes

Bloodguard

Engaged Member
Feb 20, 2021
2,304
3,713
I personally like the dialogue during the sex. In too many other games you are left with just the physical act and to me in kills the intrigue as to what they are thinking about during the act. Perhaps it could be toned down some or maybe include some of it as part of an inner dialogue but I would by no means just eliminate it.
These games are AVNs, they are porn fantasy, not real life. And while it would be a bit weird to have tons of talking during real sex, I find some amount of dirty talk and dialogue key to any fap-worthy scene in an AVN. Otherwise, it's just a silent slideshow, which is creepy AF. ;)
 

MrPerson28475

Active Member
Game Developer
Nov 25, 2020
630
1,650
I dont remember having to do some point and click before, if this is going to be more prevelent in future updates then I don't know if I want to finish the game. The phone I can put up with, but there is no point in one big arrow in the middle of the screen.
 

LSC82

Well-Known Member
Jul 27, 2020
1,842
3,673
Dirty talk during sex is a subjective art. Yet, plenty of dev's/writers treat it like a football commentary...
2 approaches are bad(imo) are:
Overly "pornish" (unless it's a girl that is deliberately teasing, not so suited for losing of virginity, or a romantic first date).
And narrating ones thoughts(stuff like "she tastes so good").
Something devs underestimate (i think) are happy tears, i find them very tasteful in the right moment.

In this game i think Petal who has been fucking for a while and is a Kinky little minx is in the clear for full porn dialogue, makes sense to her.
Bliss probably should've waited a bit(i still had fun).
 

weirdanime

Member
Jul 30, 2019
145
504
What in the world is transhumanism? Was this a sci fi story?
You're literally asking something that has been discussed in the last ten or fifteen posts.

Transhumanism is a rather large subject, while still being a bit fringe, so nothing strange about not having heard about it. The "trans" in transhumanism does not stand for transsexual, but instead extending across, through, or over, beyond, outside of. Beyond being human, in this case.
The concept of transhumanism is known enough to have not only a wikipedia article, but a full wikipedia portal. As usual, the introductory paragraph will probably offer enough orientation: "a philosophical and intellectual movement which advocates the enhancement of the human condition by developing and making widely available sophisticated technologies that can greatly enhance longevity and cognition."
It is not just about the tech of robots, cybernetics, bio-modifications etc. It debates what the effects of such tech will be on us as individuals and as a species, and what the ethics of this is, for example.

If you would prefer a novel to read, I would suggest Ian McDonalds "Terminal Café" (aka Necroville when released in the UK), or Greg Egans "Permutation City" or some of his short stories f.e.
I could also recommend the classic anime Ghost in the Shell
Think more Cyberpunk.

If you've played Cyberpunk 2077 or Deus Ex you'll notice people that have replaced body parts or internal organs with tech. That's transhumanism simplified.
also Altered Carbon.
the RPG Eclipse Phase goes into it massively.
not just Ghost in the Shell (i actually recommend the "stand alone complex" anime series over the movie for it's dive into trans-humanism) but pretty much all of Masamune Shirow's works, he's been head first into the subject since late 70's.
even current body mods fall under the trans-humanism umbrella.
The most basic dive into transhumanism would be " ", I reckon. What a film that is.
 

Avaron1974

Resident Lesbian
Aug 22, 2018
25,169
86,199
The most basic dive into transhumanism would be " ", I reckon. What a film that is.
That film is fantastic.

For a while I thought it was going to have one of those "lets work together" happy endings but damn was that ending so much better.

What in the world is transhumanism? Was this a sci fi story?
I wouldn't call it sci fi as such as it is something that is currently being worked on. Replacing lost limbs with mechanical working ones rather than the prosthetics of old is the current goal.

Sooner or later that will progress on to organs and other sorts of implants.

Probably not going to be a thing for a long time at that extent but I am willing to bet that at least replacing lost limbs should be a thing within our lifetime.
 
Feb 26, 2022
25
94
Probably not going to be a thing for a long time at that extent but I am willing to bet that at least replacing lost limbs should be a thing within our lifetime.
Well, depending on how narrow we set the specific type of performance, humanity have already surpassed the biological with limb replacement in one specific area :)



But to drag it back towards the game in question, having a lot of information very quickly available were once seen by most as something obviously positive, something that could "supercharge" us in f.e. decision making. Being in my late 40s, and having been around computers since commodore 64 etc, I remember well the tech-optimism of the early internet, how we would all become smarter, less prejudiced, all moving towards more intelligent decisions together.

I would say that today we know this is not the case. “What information consumes is rather obvious: it consumes the attention of its recipients. Hence a wealth of information creates a poverty of attention, and a need to allocate that attention efficiently among the overabundance of information sources that might consume it.” ― Herbert Simon

What actually is needed is relevant information, in relevant amount, presented in a way that we can grasp. Hence the AI in this game. Such an AI, that to that extent is trained and bound to the individual, could somewhat span the roles of librarian / archivist, mentor, even partly as super-ego, in a way that to me seems partially posthuman.

In reality it will of course never reach that, there's no profit to be made on too intelligent and informed consumers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PervyParadox

Deleted member 2030943

Active Member
Feb 16, 2020
532
853
These games are AVNs, they are porn fantasy, not real life. And while it would be a bit weird to have tons of talking during real sex, I find some amount of dirty talk and dialogue key to any fap-worthy scene in an AVN. Otherwise, it's just a silent slideshow, which is creepy AF. ;)
Yeah, I won't mention the name, but there's a game that has zero dialog during the sex scenes and it's just weird af. I just ffwd through them.
 
Last edited:
  • Red Heart
Reactions: Bloodguard

Anthony2

Member
Jan 7, 2019
333
421
this update was soo much fun.

i disagree with the people saying they are talking to much, have u guys watched real porn recently the dirty talk is absolute dogshite, for me the dirty talk enhances the scenes to an extreme and i hate games that have none i find it boring. i feel like if u actually have a kink u like dirty talk for that kink maybe im a minority in this opinion but hey if u dont like it just click over it faster and pause on a scene u like.
 

AVNSnax

Story Teller
Game Developer
Sep 27, 2021
169
954
This might be an unpopulair opinion, but I wouldn't mind it all if the characters would shut the fuck up during the sex scenes.
I think any dev that produces AVNs using Daz Studio will tell you: dialog is cheaper than providing 10+ times the number of animations or slideshows that would be required in its absence. Rendered animations are time-consuming. That's why you see so many VNs with 2-frame animations or selectable camera angles or whole sex scenes that are only a couple of seconds long. Or, where the participants shout 100 variations of "fuck me" with varying levels of cringe.
 

Walter Victor

Forum Fanatic
Dec 27, 2017
5,688
19,633
Think more Cyberpunk.

If you've played Cyberpunk 2077 or Deus Ex you'll notice people that have replaced body parts or internal organs with tech. That's transhumanism simplified.
So, have you come around to accepting this aspect of the game, or are have you turned off Transhumanism and are playing the Naturalist route? I am torn with which way to continue myself. I would prefer Naturalist, but since it is the developer's wish, I am leaning toward Transhumanism. I would appreciate your input.
 

Son of Durin

Engaged Member
Jul 5, 2021
3,686
6,675
By the way, the fact that the protagonist in this story is reluctant to cross the line with his daughters but they are not reluctant to seduce him - that is a MAJOR plot point in the story, due to a science experiment, etc. The author is telling a story where the Dad being pulled in against his best intentions actually matters to the plot. Let him write his story.

Some people on here seem to think that they are entitled to the exact story they like best. There are thousands of other games and VNs on here. Maybe they will suit you better.
amen.gif
 

Ogre

Member
Mar 29, 2018
218
555
I like the dirty talk. The more the better. The dirtier the better.

If it's just boring "ok that feels good you are amazing" then yeah, it's annoying

If it's filthy and animalistic and depraved... bring it on
 
  • Like
Reactions: Anthony2

ShiroObake

Newbie
Mar 30, 2020
51
43
omg that ending!!!!! finally what ive been waiting for since she came back, and dam is my heart racing full of anxiety!!! the next few months are gonna be torture!

Great f**king update!!!! god i love these games!
 
4.10 star(s) 65 Votes