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Probably what made everything for me completely boring and not in any way sexually arousing is the fact that 75% of the characters have shaved heads or actively get shaved heads by the end.
75%?! From my memory in volume 2 I've seen 2 or 3 with shaved heads as maximum, but for sure not 75% in either of the volumes.
It is a bit longer since I've played the games, especially volume one, so I could be wrong, yet if 75% of the female chars here are hace shaved head ir would surprise me.
 

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75%?! From my memory in volume 2 I've seen 2 or 3 with shaved heads as maximum, but for sure not 75% in either of the volumes.
It is a bit longer since I've played the games, especially volume one, so I could be wrong, yet if 75% of the female chars here are hace shaved head ir would surprise me.
Yeah, there are only Bobby and Charlie with shaved hair, the twins have long hair with side-cuts and Grace has shaved side-cuts, so there are a lot of woman with long/unshaved hair.



Shaved head hair does not make the woman less beautyful but they lose attractiveness (imo).
Shaved Hair is a statement, it is a new start in a new episode of life, with the cut people try to cut off their former personality or behavior.
 
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Ok well that ending sucked. Not even a note if the pregnancy attempt took. And what the hell is the point of the point system if you can't progress beyond full friendship points!! And I would have loved to see how things went with Bobbie and Charlie starts fing but ends in a tactical nuclear bomb level of what is this?
Agreed I actually came to post something similar. One of the worst ending. Feels like the dev said fuck it I am tired of working on this game. There was even a foreshadowing of babies but don't see that happening.
 

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Yeah, there are only Bobby and Charlie with shaved hair, the twins have long hair with side-cuts and Grace has shaved side-cuts, so there are a lot of woman with long/unshaved hair.



Shaved head hair does not make the woman less beautyful but they lose attractiveness (imo).
Shaved Hair is a statement, it is a new start in a new episode of life, with the cut people try to cut off their former personality or behavior.
No, it just speaks to deep emotional damage and this is their way a saying "Look at me!!! Pay attention to me!!!! I desperately need your attention and validation!!!!" That is my take on it anyway.
 

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Nothing against lesbian/bi girls but when all the women are bi and they start banging the other girls without you it's no longer a harem.
Your idea of a harem means that the women are subjected to frustration while they wait for their turn for a romantic date, and subsequent love making. Giving a woman the independence to love another woman that is a LI shouldn't be seen as something of a detractor, but should be seen as making sure they're taken care of(love). One man logically cannot always be there for his woman if there are 13+ LI you need to give some latitude.
 

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Great game.. One of the few where I didn't skip half the dialog.

I liked the story and the theme. All the girls are hot, and the quality of animations are also pretty good..

I think if you'd started to make optional paths to cater to some people wanting options for this and that, the final product would have suffered. Hard to keep story on track with different paths, and often leads to creating content only a few will see..

A bit confused about title of this thread.. I guess the first part is final as 0.95 beta and the second one at 0.5, but from the title it sounds like 0.5 is the first one, or an already combined one. No biggie ;)

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While i enjoyed the entire game, i found the end somewhat lacking.
none of our girlfriends had a proper introduction into the family itself, we didn't became real fathers, so my children never get to meet their Aunts.
while the goverment hired us to to a job we never got thanked for it by them.

While i understand its the writer choise to say when the book is finished, just like with Lucifer, the fans made it posible for 2 more seasons, and maybe and hopefully a 3rd season. maybe us fans should ask the writer to at least add those scene's in version 1.0.

So envixer, pls add at least those scene's to the last and final update pretty please?
Greetings Riggnarock
 
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While i enjoyed the entire game, i found the end somewhat lacking.
none of our girlfriends had a proper introduction into the family itself, we didn't became real fathers, so my children never get to meet their Aunts.
while the goverment hired us to to a job we never got thanked for it by them.

While i understand its the writer choise to say when the book is finished, just like with Lucifer, the fans made it posible for 2 more seasons, and maybe and hopefully a 3rd season. maybe us fans should ask the writer to at least add those scene's in version 1.0.

So envixer, pls add at least those scene's to the last and final update pretty please?
Greetings Riggnarock
There will possibly be more content in the remaster, but that will take a long time. My focus is now on two other games.

Thank you for the feedback!
 

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There will possibly be more content in the remaster, but that will take a long time. My focus is now on two other games.

Thank you for the feedback!
oh Envixer, there is no rush on it all, i already understand that you wanted to start a new project and that the next time you update this story it would have been remastered wich would at least take another year. im just saying, just like with lucifer, we fans, or at least me feel like the ending and some other things dont realy feel finished and that i would like to see those things included. maybe a whole big family reunion or family party or something, maybe even in naughty santa outfits seeing you aparantly enjoy xmas alot, wich who wouldnt? (just an idea btw, not something you should feel oblidged to do :D)

and im glad you enjoyed my feedback, or are you just saying that becouse you secretly also love lucifer just like me, and want to do something in return for a lucifer fan?

Many Greetings from a fan from Holland.
Riggnarock.
 
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  1. It was never MC harem. It was her mother and aunt family tradition. Where every family member can have sex with any other family, if it is consensual. This means women with women, men with men and all in between.
  2. From our very tag definition here on the zone:
    1. Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.]
 

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I'm disappointed ... there is pregnancy in the description of the game and yes, they talk about pregnancy ... but they only talk because no girl walks with a "belly" and somehow it seems to me that the game is not finished as it should be ... unless it is planned 3 episode??? but there are no announcements ... sorry for my english (google translate)
 

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I played this game quite some time ago. And I have a question about it. But I have no idea if this fanbase is one of the more friendly or one of the more toxic ones when it comes to differences. So before I ask it I just want to say that any differing tastes, opinions, criticisms, or gripes that I may have with it are not meant as an attack, nor to offend any of the game's fans who feel differently, or the dev for that matter. If you like something that I don't, or I like something that you don't, or you disagree with me on anything, then that's fine, and also not meant as a slight against you.

That being said, there were parts of this game that I really liked, but unfortunately there were also a couple of aspects of it that I disliked so much that it killed virtually all of my interest in playing any more of it. But since it's been so long now, I just wanted to check and see if maybe anything has changed on those fronts.

Probably my biggest issue, and the one I care about the most, is does this game still basically remind and preach to the player every five minutes about the dangers of inbreeding, and how the women are going to eventually leave to be with other men so that they can continue the family line etc.? Incest and pregnancy are two big kinks of mine. I understand that not everyone will be into the latter, and that's fine. People who are not into the former are probably not playing this game anyway lol. Even if the dev is not into that and just doesn't want to do it, that's fine. It's their game, and I can go elsewhere to scratch that particular itch. Finding a way to just say "no pregnancies" in-game once is one thing, but the constant bashing and lecturing about it was just a huge boner-killer for me, and made it difficult for me to enjoy the other aspects such as incest, harem, lesbian, etc.

Also I feel that a "Because realism" argument falls flat here, since we're talking about a game where the protagonist is a 5' nothing 20 year-old who is still somehow a hardened ex-Spec Ops military veteran who also apparently has more money than a lot of small countries. "Realism" would be a weak argument here imo. One throwaway line about gene-splicing technology making it safe or anything else like that would be just as feasible as a lot of the other things in this game.

Speaking of the protagonist though, personally I thought that he was one of the most arrogant and self-righteous pricks I've ever come across in an adult game. The political commentary was another turn off, especially with how forced and eager it was. The exchange early on in the game about "libtards" and "republicunts" was just so cringe and eye-roll inducing that it nearly blinded me. It's just my own opinion, but you know those pictures of people drinking from mugs that say "Liberal Tears" or "Conservative Tears"? Yeah, I think they're both just as lame as the other, and that's there's already more than enough division these days without people being so glad or eager to antagonize and just throw more fuel onto the fire. If you're someone who liked it, then that's fine. But whether I'm one of many or literally the only person who finds that obnoxious, I just still wanted to mention it.

Back to the inbreeding topic though. As someone who finds it hot within the realm of kink and porn fantasy, I thought the in-game situation would have been salvageable or even cool if the protagonist, as the patriarch of the family or something, made a decision to say "You know what... Fuck this. I'm changing the rules. I don't care how long it's been a tradition." But I do seem to remember either the dev, or fans on behalf of the dev, being adamant in that there will never ever be any incest pregnancy in this game. Period. Of course that could have either been just simply true, or a red herring to throw people off for a surprise plot twist later on or something, which would be plausible. Only time would tell on that one. And since it has been some time now, I wanted to see if anything ever changed there. If it did, then I'd still like to start a new playthrough. Because despite my gripes that I had with it, there really was a lot that I did like in the game when I played. But if it's still getting drilled in-game over and over "No inbreeding and here's why etc etc!" then in that case I'd just rather not waste my time since it's clearly not for me.

Yes I know this comment was a novel, and I probably could have summed it up in a simple question within just a few sentences. But I did like (other parts) of the game enough back when I played to where I just cared enough to elaborate while also giving some feedback on it.


TL;DR Does this game still basically remind and preach to the player every five minutes about the dangers of inbreeding, and how the women are going to eventually leave to be with other men so that they can continue the family line?
If this is true, I feel like pregnancy tag should be removed not to lead people astray.

Also trying to make incestual harem realistic is adorable, but laughable attempt. Any time these things are connected, any sort of believability is already out of window.
 
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