Extra gallery content, and finished (proofread, finalized) script.What is the Gold Patch? Is it an IC patch or something? I'm just curious if I should DL it or not.
Extra gallery content, and finished (proofread, finalized) script.What is the Gold Patch? Is it an IC patch or something? I'm just curious if I should DL it or not.
It'd be kinda crap if they all got raped, sure sexual abuse could be a compelling way to draw some juices for character development like overcoming their trauma and whatnot but that's kinda boring if they all had experienced something similar and all the main character had to do was show them some real love and affection for them to overcome it, it works once but it'd be boring if that's all it takes for all of them to get naked.90% of men in this game are total perverts so I wouldn't be that surprised if we learn Jenny got raped as well.
BUT:
- Jenny getting raped by person who adopted her is too similar to Valery's story, do we really need to replay the same story over & over again, this dev ought to be more original than that.
- Jenny's backstory focuses on her brain tumor & her inability to sleep, to shift the focus from that to her getting raped by some degenerate is in such poor taste.
*Also, the dev imagining a dude adopting a little girl who just went through hell, a girl who already gave up on life only to rape her is beyond fucked up. I don't think he'll do it.
Honestly the darker themes and the abuse aren't really the issue. I don't even mind the slow burn aspect but the contrast between the different girls is just too violent. On one side, we have Ashley & Sung Ji whom for now have no story or issue beyond their insecurities and Vicky with her minor issue with the jackass and jealous brother. And on the other side, we have Jenny's group facing issue honestly far beyond MC's reach like dealing with a fucking mafia organisation and a Frank Underwood wannabe trying to destroy Jenny and MC's futur with money, blackmail and shady relation and who knows what the future holds with Rebekka and Jade. Ashley's group and their minor issues look like secondary characters totally irrelevant with the more important dark plots.I will agree with you that there should 100% be some “normal girls” too in the story and as for i can see/know all the girls outside of Jenny's circle seem to fit that for now at least the only one who seems to possibly have been through something is Vic
Well, the darker themes and abuse really aren't the issue, playing the rape rebound guy for 1-2 girls is fine. Hell it was the entire theme of Avalon and it was fine. But for half a dozen? Pass...Honestly the darker themes and the abuse aren't really the issue. I don't even mind the slow burn aspect but the contrast between the different girls is just too violent. On one side, we have Ashley & Sung Ji whom for now have no story or issue beyond their insecurities and Vicky with her minor issue with the jackass and jealous brother. And on the other side, we have Jenny's group facing issue honestly far beyond MC's reach like dealing with a fucking mafia organisation and a Frank Underwood wannabe trying to destroy Jenny and MC's futur with money, blackmail and shady relation and who knows what the future holds with Rebekka and Jade. Ashley's group and their minor issues look like secondary characters totally irrelevant with the more important dark plots.
This whole Cartel storyline is too forced. It's ten times bigger than the whole drugs & prostitution ring, or religious jerk father in BADIK. Right now, the game's trying to be too many things at once. It's just feel like you're confronted with sad backstory on repeat without really getting any story with half of the others characters like Ashley's group. If we'll have to deal with every girl personal trauma one by one while Ashley, Sung Ji, Vicky and Elizabeth remain satellite characters it's gonna be quickly repetitive and frustrating.
I actually wrote something similar to this a couple pages back, anyone outside of jenny's group are kind of satellite love interests at this point.It's just feel like you're confronted with sad backstory on repeat without really getting any story with half of the others characters like Ashley's group. If we'll have to deal with every girl personal trauma one by one while Ashley, Sung Ji, Vicky and Elizabeth remain satellite characters it's gonna be quickly repetitive and frustrating.
I don't think his fanbase would appreciate that type of storytelling.It could work tho but judging from the way most people are reacting the beta version, I doubt it's working well.
I think people are allowing themselves to be fooled into believing this cartel storyline has stakes.So unless the mc suddenly becomes Bryan Mills or John Wick I don't see how He/us the players are going to deal with this cartel business.
Seriously, it should be exclusively Val's shtick and let the other characters damn be, just come up with better (i.e. more diverse) backstories for them and drop this "similar circumstances" dialogue from this beta.I don't think his fanbase would appreciate that type of storytelling.
Pretty sure jenny is a fan favourite, something tells me lots of patrons will drop the game if that happens.
i think maybe the "similar circumstances" aspect refers to something else other than rape, more like bad rep & inability to adapt to society.just come up with better (i.e. more diverse) backstories for them and drop this "similar circumstances" dialogue from this beta.
Well i'd say there are a couple differences there is Liz who from what we can tell had a thing with a Student a couple years before Vic Rebecca and Aurora have problems yes but so far i haven't really gotten the impression that it has anything to do with abuse at least not sexual so far the only ones we know for a fact has been raped/forced is Val and Jade yes there are perhaps hints with some of the others but there isn't anything like seeing Val on that bed nor like Jade going into detail about what happened to herSeriously, it should be exclusively Val's shtick and let the other characters damn be, just come up with better (i.e. more diverse) backstories for them and drop this "similar circumstances" dialogue from this beta.
Jenny made the MC promise not to tell anyone after she divulged this new information. We already knew about Val and Jade, but if the "similar circumstances" would be this overt for the rest of them, the "similar circumstances" part wouldn't need to be kept secret. The hints for this commonality being sexual assault are all there. Especially for Jenny and Aurora.i think maybe the "similar circumstances" aspect refers to something else other than rape, more like bad rep & inability to adapt to society.
Rebecca is ashamed of some embarrassing public event that ruined her career.
Valery is known as the girl who murdered her rapist uncle.
Jade was a prostitute so her rep was always shit, but i'm sure there's more to her than that.
Even Aurora has bad rep, everyone makes fun of her acting talents.
Rebecca made the MC promise not to tell anyone about her past music career. No sexual abuse hint there, unless we make up shit & try to construct a narrative.Jenny made the MC promise not to tell anyone after she divulged this new information.
That's a misquote,I think people are allowing themselves to be fooled into believing this cartel storyline has stakes.
No permanent harm will come to anyone that matters. At most, some recently introduced side character with minimal buy-in will be killed off for shock factor.
MC and the LIs have 12-inch thick plot armor. This is probably why the lack of progression with the LIs annoyed me so much, alongside the sudden personality changes.
People have to make a habit of seeing the forest for the trees.
At least I'm not cherry-picking to build an argument. I'm looking at the whole picture. Care to explain Jenny? This deluded paranoid peasant would be much obliged.Rebecca made the MC promise not to tell anyone about her past music career. No sexual abuse hint there, unless we make up shit & try to construct a narrative.
Offing characters you haven't picked as love interests is nothing new, we've seen it in Acting Lessons, no reason why it shouldn't happen here.That's a misquote,
It's about people NOT being able to see the forest because of the trees.
As for the MC or the LIs being safe; I would not be too sure about that.
Remember there IS a point in the Prologue where a choice will suddenly End the game !.
what am i cherry picking, valery's & jade's past has been hinted since 1st chapter, it was easy to guess from back then that valery was raped.At least I'm not cherry-picking to build an argument. I'm looking at the whole picture. Care to explain Jenny? This deluded paranoid peasant would be much obliged.
i don't think Jenny was raped at all if anything the reason she hesitates and why so many of the others girls do too is cause they don't feel like they deserve to be happy cause of their past whether if it's because of rape and being treated like shit like with Val and Jade or someone giving their life for you when you had already pretty much accepted you were going to die as with Jennywhat am i cherry picking, valery's & jade's past has been hinted since 1st chapter, it was easy to guess from back then that valery was raped.
becky's & jenny's flashback didn't imply that they were raped.
From what I've seen from Jenny so far she is daydreaming about her days in the hospital, that's what traumatized her the most. Did the father come & rape her in the hospital?
I agree, IMO the common denominator between all the girls from Jenny's group is that none of them believe they deserve happiness cause of some shitty event that ruined their life.i don't think Jenny was raped at all if anything the reason she hesitates and why so many of the others girls do too is cause they don't feel like they deserve to be happy cause of their past whether if it's because of rape and being treated like shit like with Val and Jade or someone giving their life for you when you had already pretty much accepted you were going to die as with Jenny