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Loving this game so far but the skin textures are really bothering me.

I also see a harem tag but I need to pick paths. Im assuming you cant just bang everything that moves?
 
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. The wrong hard on for his step-sister might be because he just hates her.
That's the point. Adam hates her step-sister because... hates her step-sister. And hates the MC for the same reason. He´s evil because he´s evil. He´s greedy because he´s greedy. Good villains have reasons for being the way they are. Reasons one can even relate with at some level. But Adam, as the step-brother of Vicky, is just and asshole and nothing more. I wonder what is the problem of the dev with step-brothers... Maybe he has an evil step-brother? :unsure: :LOL:
 

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That's the point. Adam hates her step-sister because... hates her step-sister. And hates the MC for the same reason.
He´s evil because he´s evil. He´s greedy because he´s greedy. Good villains have reasons for being the way they are. Reasons one can even relate with at some level.
Well, she was an orphan who was adopted by his parents and got the right to inherit part of his parents' immense fortune.
I could see why he could be pissed about that, not that I share the same thoughts but it is quite understandable from the point of view of a spoiled and wealthy single child.

But Adam, as the step-brother of Vicky, is just and asshole and nothing more. I wonder what is the problem of the dev with step-brothers... Maybe he has an evil step-brother? :unsure: :LOL:
Jenny!!!
And he's not a step-brother, he's her adoptive brother which is like being a real brother for all legal intents and purposes.
Vicky's foster brother is an asshole too but for very different reasons :KEK:
 

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Loving this game so far but the skin textures are really bothering me.

I also see a harem tag but I need to pick paths. Im assuming you cant just bang everything that moves?
Yes, each new choice cuts you from getting more fun time with other girls. It's done in a really annoying matter sometimes, like, you have to choose between more time with Jenny (obviously for some content) and Ashley's party (obviously for some more content), what would be the harm to make some compromise in this case since both events do not go into conflict with each other?
The most annoying part of those choices is that you really do not know beforehand if those event will become a conflict issue or you can have them both, so you really have to dive pretty deep into the story to find out if they are or they are not, and if they are, replay a pretty big piece of story anew. Not very smooth move from dev imo...

Besides, there is no real proof if there is any future for MC with other than those 3 main characters (why Valery as third one? I'd like it to be Rebecca or Aurora, much more appealing as a girlfriend material), so I have a fair concern if there is actually any more content for those 2 as an example than there is now for them when I go for Jenny. I guess I can find that out at some point, but the time it will consume to find out makes it a long-time wish rather than something to be revealed soon.
 
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Yes, each new choice cuts you from getting more fun time with other girls. It's done in a really annoying matter sometimes, like, you have to choose between more time with Jenny (obviously for some content) and Ashley's party (obviously for some more content), what would be the harm to make some compromise in this case since both events do not go into conflict with each other?
that's cause dev said you only get harem only after each girl gets her problems solved.

Till that happens the mc can romantically focus on only 1 or 2 two girls.
 
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that's cause dev said you only get harem only after each girl gets her problems solved.

Till that happens the mc can romantically focus on only 1 or 2 two girls.
Yes, I can believe that, but there is no sign about it in the game, and in meanwhile, we are cut from a great amount of content which is not necessary that influencing storywise, like the one I mentioned above.
Makes me wonder what's the point of all of the choices and all those story content sacrifices if we have a harem ending eventually? The story build makes even less sense with that statement of yours being true...
 

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Yes, I can believe that, but there is no sign about it in the game, and in meanwhile, we are cut from a great amount of content which is not necessary that influencing storywise, like the one I mentioned above.
Makes me wonder what's the point of all of the choices and all those story content sacrifices if we have a harem ending eventually? The story build makes even less sense for me now...
The game requires you to gather points for each girl even if you can't romance them in the beginning, pretty sure you won't be able to include vicky(for example) into your harem if she only has 2 points.
 

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This game is just frustrating me. It went from being my #1 VN with the prologue and CH 1 to being overly contrived and needlessly restrictive with the next 2 chapters.

I've replayed numerous times now trying to isolate to one path but still can't get the 'reward' sexy time with Jenny at the hotel. I pick every single option with her, ignore all others and have as many points as I can seem to get relationship wise but still get locked out arbitrarily. It must be some combination of picking an option that seems counter intuitive to get the best results and short of using a walkthrough for step by step progression, I doubt I'll bother trying to keep trudging a long.

I really like the relationship building, the slow burn, the renders and starting story, but this descent into mafia war just seems to detract from the games actual selling points. To the point of almost feeling like a bait and switch. We get a nude shot at the start of each chapter as a bone being thrown to us so we stick around for the endless attempt at 'serious' storytelling.

I guess I'm just salty. The opening made this feel like a very solid college comedy sex romp in the vein of Revenge of the Nerds and Animal House but now we're stuck in I know what you did last summer territory instead.
 

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The game requires you to gather points for each girl even if you can't romance them in the beginning, pretty sure you won't be able to include vicky(for example) into your harem if she only has 2 points.
There are no points in this game. I know what you are referring to by saying "points", but it does not work this way from the player's side, and, after 4-6 months, when we get some decent amount of content in the game, people will never be able to say how far did they progress with each girl.
And it does not really dissonates with what's I've said before, there are a lot of ways to give players both choice paths (no point in those with harem ending, but there will be too late when dev himself realizes it) and more content (not romantic one) to be unlocked for player's joy.
Okay, I guess it's not a good time to be pessimistic about nuances, I'll just enjoy the story more as I know now that MC will be all over the girls eventually and there is no need to be strict about choices anymore even if the story makes much less sense for me now...
 

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Well, she was an orphan who was adopted by his parents and got the right to inherit part of his parents' immense fortune.
I could see why he could be pissed about that, not that I share the same thoughts but it is quite understandable from the point of view of a spoiled and wealthy single child.
So, wealthy single child are greedy and evil by nature? Do you think that being a single child (until he gets the little sister that he asked for) and wealthy, is a valid reason to hate so much not only her little sister, but the friends of her little sister, and try to ruin their lives and even to make them killed?

The character is over the top, as other characters in this game. Adam is a single child, and as most single children, wants a little brother or sister. The he gets his wish fulfilled... and the for some reason, instead of loving his little sister (that even had a serious medical problem, another reason to be protective with her), he starts hating her guts... Why? Because he has to share the inheritance of his father? Just like everybody that have brothers and sisters, and it usually doesn´t make people to hate their relatives and try to ruin their lives and the lives of their friends. Why is he so greedy? Because the fortune of his parents is immense? Another reason for not to be greedy, he´s going to be rich anyway. He´s greedy and evil just because he´s evil and greedy. And that's not a valid reason, just lazy, careless writing.

As happens with other characters in this game, the writer has exceeded himself with Adam, artificially looking for drama.

The romance in this game is great and the girls look amazing, that's why forgive most of the "sins" of the writing. But it doesn´t means they don´t exist.
 
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Man o man i just finished Chapter 3 and im really impressed by the scene animations and the details in every cutscene it really is my number 1 game at the moment and i played around 15 other popular games in this site. I played the game with Scrappy mod by the way it really changes the way how you play the game
 

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Progress Update

As I'm chugging along with completing all the other features previously mentioned, here's the newest feature update in progress...mouse-hovered info on all FreeRoam events.

These use the same aesthetic as the Mini-Stat screens previously mentioned and work/change as you hover over either a dialogue hotspot or navigation hotspot, giving you more info on what to expect before you click them, and if and when the choice will exit the FreeRoam event or allow you to continue it.

Here's some teaser pics below that help visualize the concept. See my previous posts on other features that are being introduced including full in-game Route guides exhaustic choice guides, various stat screens, etc. Regards.

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So, wealthy single child are greedy and evil by nature? Do you think that being a single child (until he gets the little sister that he asked for) and wealthy, is a valid reason to hate so much not only her little sister, but the friends of her little sister, and try to ruin their lives and even to make them killed?

The character is over the top, as other characters in this game. Adam is a single child, and as most single children, wants a little brother or sister. The he gets his wish fulfilled... and the for some reason, instead of loving his little sister (that even had a serious medical problem, another reason to be protective with her), he starts hating her guts... Why? Because he has to share the inheritance of his father? Just like everybody that have brothers and sisters, and it usually doesn´t make people to hate their relatives and try to ruin their lives and the lives of their friends. Why is he so greedy? Because the fortune of his parents is immense? Another reason for not to be greedy, he´s going to be rich anyway. He´s greedy and evil just because he´s evil and greedy. And that's not a valid reason, just lazy, careless writing.

As happens with other characters in this game, the writer has exceeded himself with Adam, artificially looking for drama.

The romance in this game is great and the girls look amazing, that's why forgive most of the "sins" of the writing. But it doesn´t means they don´t exist.
I have the same feeling about this story, some parts are great some are not. Like you said some characters are over the top, i had that first impression when we encounter Adam the fisrt time. At that moment i had some doubts about this game, the same when you get to the house and Jade wants to blow you in front of everybody.
But apart from that the girls charachter were wery well done and i loved that story and the chat and flirt with the girls.
But with that last update, things went really over the top in too many ways and i could not enjoy it.
I had to drop it for a while because i was getting upset, now that i have cool down i will finish it soon.
All i hope is that the dev will concentrate on the girls story and not so much on that drama, but i fear it won't be the case.
 
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Adam is a single child, and as most single children, wants a little brother or sister.
On what statistical fact is this conclusion based? I'm an only child and never felt this way as well as anyone else I've ever known that is an only child. "...as most single children wants a little brother or sister" is a ridiculous statement tbh, but I understand and appreciate the frustration you are trying to point out regarding the character of Adam.

...he starts hating her guts... Why? Because he has to share the inheritance of his father? Just like everybody that have brothers and sisters, and it usually doesn´t make people to hate their relatives and try to ruin their lives and the lives of their friends.
Very key word you placed "usually". One must not discount that many, many families have been torn apart due to inheritance and probate issues. One is either inexperienced in the process or naive to believe otherwise. But again, I understand and appreciate your frustration regarding Adam. It's just the points you are making are not as unbelievable as you want them to be imo....except for the killing part or course :).

At the end of the day the dev wanted to create a villain, and Adam is at least one of them. As frustrating as it may be, it's not so over the top taking into account the totality of extravagant acts irl true historical villains in the history of humanity have undertaken. Regards and be well.
 
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Adam imo is just a misguided Rich guy consumed by money & power to the point he will do just about anything to secure whatever slice of pie he can get, even if it means putting family in danger, he doesnt care (only Fakes concern to get what he wants.)
 

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Just a little feedback for dev (assuming they read this thread) now that I've finished Ch3 Gold - potential spoilers for folks who haven't played Chapter 3, so be advised...

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Thanks for your efforts Dev, looking forward to Chapter 4. And make sure to put up an announcement in this thread if this game ever releases on Steam or GOG. I'd be happy to buy the game at one of those stores for full price.
 
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All i hope is that the dev will concentrate on the girls story and not so much on that drama, but i fear it won't be the case.
That's exactly what I´m expecting. The dev said that he don't want to write a thriller, so I expect the story of the cartel of the dalias will be finished as soon as possible and the game will be again about roleplaying to be a college guy with a bunch of beautiful girls to hang around, without cheap villains, cheap female 007 and absurd crossovers/Easter eggs with BaDIK. But will see.

About the scene when the MC first arrives to the house of the girls, as I already said in another comment, I think that at first the dev had the idea of making a more conventional porn game with a lot of slutty girls eager to have sex with the MC, and then he changed his mind and made the female characters way less slutty (except Jade) an way less experienced about sex and men. There is a incongruence between that scene (or the scene of the train with Valery), or even the way they dress, the tattoos, piercings, make ups... with the personality that the girls develop along the game after the prologue.

The scene of Adam knowing the MC for 2 seconds and provoking him to a fight just because, is just bad writing, IMO. One could think that the wealthy and powerful owner of a private university and a lot of other business, both legal and illegal ones, with his father with a terminal desease, would have better things in his mind than becoming the mortal enemy of a random student, or even pissing off his step sister.
 
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Adam imo is just a misguided Rich guy consumed by money & power to the point he will do just about anything to secure whatever slice of pie he can get, even if it means putting family in danger, he doesnt care (only Fakes concern to get what he wants.)
Yeah, he's greedy and evil because he´s rich and single son... Because we all know that rich people are evil by nature and single sons too...

Let's face it: Adam is like one of those villains of 007´s movies that want to launch nuclear missiles and kill everybody just because James Bond has to show off and ruin his evil plan.
 
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pretty much & it feels like thats happening here with the hamshire cartel verses the Dalias cartel.

(i just hope valery doesnt have to go through the same trauma all over again.)
 
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