VN Ren'Py Abandoned A.O.A. Academy [Ch.5 Gold] [TLGGAMES]

[van321]

I want to want to continue this game, but I just haven't had the heart in me to play the last two updates after reading changelogs and plot spoilers. Maybe what I expected this to be about, a slice of life college life game with more mature themes and serious romance than say BADIK, just isn't what TLG wants it to be, a crime thriller with college kids banging. Maybe the bugginess of the pathing, and seemingly arbitrary exclusionary nature of the pathing (you HAVE to follow their full paths to a tee to get enough points to move onto the next part of their story, so HAVE to use a walkthrough), just annoyed me to the point that I'm just going to move on.

It's a shame because characters like Vicky, Valery and even Jade and Jenny are extremely well done, if I'll say somewhat unique. I wish it was more about MC bonding with them than... whatever cartel nonsense it seemed to start to be about in Chapter 3 and onward.

I'll keep a distant eye on it in case this is just a small step toward a bigger story, but I'm not optimistic. Cheers.

 

[Exdeath92]

The way this game handles the variables makes it impossible to play without scrappy's mod. I had to take one save and modify it with the mod so I could get every route available without having to restart the game.
I like the game, but having to do this is troublesome (and that was the reason I had to drop BA Δ)

 

[NeonFaithxx]

As much as I love this game I do hate how alot of things happened in the span of a week

 

[seniorboop]

As much as I love this game I do hate how alot of things happened in the span of a week

I want to want to continue this game, but I just haven't had the heart in me to play the last two updates after reading changelogs and plot spoilers. Maybe what I expected this to be about, a slice of life college life game with more mature themes and serious romance than say BADIK, just isn't what TLG wants it to be, a crime thriller with college kids banging. Maybe the bugginess of the pathing, and seemingly arbitrary exclusionary nature of the pathing (you HAVE to follow their full paths to a tee to get enough points to move onto the next part of their story, so HAVE to use a walkthrough), just annoyed me to the point that I'm just going to move on.

It's a shame because characters like Vicky, Valery and even Jade and Jenny are extremely well done, if I'll say somewhat unique. I wish it was more about MC bonding with them than... whatever cartel nonsense it seemed to start to be about in Chapter 3 and onward.

I'll keep a distant eye on it in case this is just a small step toward a bigger story, but I'm not optimistic. Cheers.

Exactly why I recommend cheating and turning your brain off while you look at high fidelity renders. I will always praise the devs ability to produce high quality renders but the story writing just isn't there. The main plot makes no sense whatsoever and each update only digs a deeper hole.

Im a bit conflicted myself honestly. My golden rule of VNs is that ill play a minimal/no lewd VN if the story is great and inversely ill play a VN that has great lewds even if the story is awful. This game does not have good lewds and the story is awful yet for some reason I haven't put this game on my blacklist.

I guess I hoped the game would get better which never happened. I respect the devs commendable effort, 3.6K renders is nothing to sneeze at. Regardless, I don't think I could recommend it, especially to people that prefer a story focus. This story isn't salvageable from my pov.

 

[Before I Forget]

The way this game handles the variables makes it impossible to play without scrappy's mod. I had to take one save and modify it with the mod so I could get every route available without having to restart the game.
I like the game, but having to do this is troublesome (and that was the reason I had to drop BA Δ)

It's complicated for no reason.

 

[NeonFaithxx]

I want to want to continue this game, but I just haven't had the heart in me to play the last two updates after reading changelogs and plot spoilers. Maybe what I expected this to be about, a slice of life college life game with more mature themes and serious romance than say BADIK, just isn't what TLG wants it to be, a crime thriller with college kids banging. Maybe the bugginess of the pathing, and seemingly arbitrary exclusionary nature of the pathing (you HAVE to follow their full paths to a tee to get enough points to move onto the next part of their story, so HAVE to use a walkthrough), just annoyed me to the point that I'm just going to move on.

It's a shame because characters like Vicky, Valery and even Jade and Jenny are extremely well done, if I'll say somewhat unique. I wish it was more about MC bonding with them than... whatever cartel nonsense it seemed to start to be about in Chapter 3 and onward.

I'll keep a distant eye on it in case this is just a small step toward a bigger story, but I'm not optimistic. Cheers.

Same man the first 2 chapters I thought it was going to be a slice of life type vn where the MC helps with the girls' trauma would have been so much better but nope it decides to add some mafia drama. Don't really care for the story that much anymore I'm playing for the characters cause I love them alot

 

[van321]

Exactly why I recommend cheating and turning your brain off while you look at high fidelity renders. I will always praise the devs ability to produce high quality renders but the story writing just isn't there. The main plot makes no sense whatsoever and each update only digs a deeper hole.

Im a bit conflicted myself honestly. My golden rule of VNs is that ill play a minimal/no lewd VN if the story is great and inversely ill play a VN that has great lewds even if the story is awful. This game does not have good lewds and the story is awful yet for some reason I haven't put this game on my blacklist.

I guess I hoped the game would get better which never happened. I respect the devs commendable effort, 3.6K renders is nothing to sneeze at. Regardless, I don't think I could recommend it, especially to people that prefer a story focus. This story isn't salvageable from my pov.

A year ago, I never would have found myself preferring so many Honey Select and Koikatsu AVNs, but what I have found is those who are better writers don't tend to be amazing artists, and vice versa. Of course, there are plenty of those who are terrible at both... The difficulty curve for DAZ3D is a lot higher, and just look at the render quality for AOA! That being said, quality of lewds isn't only about render quality. There is a writing aspect to depraved acts just as there is to romance. It's alarmingly easy to make porn boring.

I played the Prologue and Chapter 1 several times, and continue to believe it was on a great path forward for those looking for a great romance story. However, now that more chapters have been released, the reality is there are just so many better options. For fap material with great lewd content and renders? So many better options. This here is just stuck in the middle, while also trying to play to the crime genre audience.

Quality isn't terrible (though coding quality leaves much to be desired), but it needs an identity.

 

[van321]

Same man the first 2 chapters I thought it was going to be a slice of life type vn where the MC helps with the girls' trauma would have been so much better but nope it decides to add some mafia drama. Don't really care for the story that much anymore I'm playing for the characters cause I love them alot

Harem Hotel style LI relationship building, but with more intense themes of personal trauma, loss, and loneliness.

And obviously without the modernized fantasy genre and slavery.

Could have worked, especially since the MC started out quite interesting, with his own fresh losses to cope with and fish out of water headed into a college setting. Unfortunately, he seems to have just become another blank slate.

 

[Hahn1900]

Hm, bug after being with Jenny, MC is entering with valery instead and acting like something happend with her... but i was with Jenny. Nothing major but strange bug.

Maybe not the only one, have to play the whole episode first.

 

[NeonFaithxx]

Hm, bug after being with Jenny, MC is entering with valery instead and acting like something happend with her... but i was with Jenny. Nothing major but strange bug.

Maybe not the only one, have to play the whole episode first.

Yea same thing happened but I was on Rebecca's path instead

 

[JesterAI]

I thought I was an expert so far in at least understanding which girls and scenes cancel out each other and working my way around based on which girls I liked the most in my playthrough. Since Jenny has her own harem variable in the script and Jade has highly hinted towards being a part of it throughout the scenes they've shared till now. I can't get why as a player who has primarily focused on both of them that their scenes during the academy free roam event can't be obtained in one playthrough.

Spoiler: Jenny/Jade Scenes In Chapter 5

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I wouldn’t complain if the game highly pushed the player about only having one love interest per playthrough, but the game doesn’t. It just makes certain girls’ conflict with each other during free roams such as Aurora and Elizabeth, Jenny and Ashley, and Jade and Rebecca. Or just automatically prioritizes one girl scenes over the other such as in Chapter 4 towards the end with Sung Ji over Vicky if the player decided to tease her in Chapter 2 despite all your other progress with Vicky as a love interest at that point. We’re pretty much mixing and matching girls at this point with no clearly defined relationships or harems in the story yet and the one potential threesome relationship I believe is the most obvious is conflicting each other in terms of content and story. I’m not sure if these issues are going to get better in future updates at this point but I hope so.

I agree

I think the most annoying thing to me is that the game puts a smokescreen over the impact of your choices.

We should be able to chase the girls we want to chase without having to replay the game 5 times because we told another girl we'd go to the gym with her, or study with another girl, etc. I get throwing a few curveballs at the player so it's not predictable, but don't make it so ridiculously confusing to pursue the options you want to pursue as a player. This really hurts the gaming experience, because instead of playing the game, seeing girls, and going after a couple, I'm left trying to guess which variable is tracked where, if I am nice to this girl here, does that mean I can't be nice to another girl there, etc.

If we have to choose, make the choice a little bit obvious, because then we feel like we have agency. Making the choices is hot if we know what they do, but irritating and a turnoff if we don't. Do I want to go to lunch with this girl? I don't know, let me look at the variables and see if it randomly impacts a totally different girl first.

I don't want to make a spreadsheet to try to date the girls I want to date. That's a boner killer.

 

[NeonFaithxx]

Harem Hotel style LI relationship building, but with more intense themes of personal trauma, loss, and loneliness.

And obviously without the modernized fantasy genre and slavery.

Could have worked, especially since the MC started out quite interesting, with his own fresh losses to cope with and fish out of water headed into a college setting. Unfortunately, he seems to have just become another blank slate.

This plus the renders this game would have been a banger

 

[AgnorWolf]

Same man the first 2 chapters I thought it was going to be a slice of life type vn where the MC helps with the girls' trauma would have been so much better but nope it decides to add some mafia drama. Don't really care for the story that much anymore I'm playing for the characters cause I love them alot

Yeah I have no idea what happened but its taken a massive nose dive for me. I also really liked the first 2 chapters aswell and then the story just became a hot mess of over the top drama. Not the mention the weird rigid paths that the girls or on. god forbid you play this one without scrappys mod you would be super lost. the renders are great and the scenes are well done if few and far between but ive kinda lost interest after the last update.

 

[Hahn1900]

Yea same thing happened but I was on Rebecca's path instead

yeah and a little later on you got messages from Val and Jade on the phone like you were together with them... well, i wasnt. Again, nothing major cause after this the game continues with my decisions like it has to be, but yeah, some fixes are needed here and there, but well... which update doesnt need some fixes here and there?

Overall, i liked the update, seems that episode 6 will be kind of an "great finale" with major impact. Cant wait for it... love this game so much, yeah the mafia and adam thing is a little too much i admit... getting into murder and such. But especially all the girls are just loveable, and how the relationship between them and the MC is going is just lovely.

 

[Hahn1900]

I agree

I think the most annoying thing to me is that the game puts a smokescreen over the impact of your choices.

We should be able to chase the girls we want to chase without having to replay the game 5 times because we told another girl we'd go to the gym with her, or study with another girl, etc. I get throwing a few curveballs at the player so it's not predictable, but don't make it so ridiculously confusing to pursue the options you want to pursue as a player. This really hurts the gaming experience, because instead of playing the game, seeing girls, and going after a couple, I'm left trying to guess which variable is tracked where, if I am nice to this girl here, does that mean I can't be nice to another girl there, etc.

If we have to choose, make the choice a little bit obvious, because then we feel like we have agency. Making the choices is hot if we know what they do, but irritating and a turnoff if we don't. Do I want to go to lunch with this girl? I don't know, let me look at the variables and see if it randomly impacts a totally different girl first.

I don't want to make a spreadsheet to try to date the girls I want to date. That's a boner killer.

i know what you mean, BUT losing SOME points with a girl doesnt rule her out, you dont need all points with a girl... if you want to pursue her all the major decisions are unavoidable. there are several scenes in the game at some points where you will meet multiple girls and there you have to make decisions which really counts...

if you go in a freeroam in the classrooms instead to the cafeteria you may loose some points with a girl you like, but later on you will have the chance to get some points enough to take the realtionship further. You will just miss some points, dialogues and gallery pictures if you dont have gathered every relationship point with the girl... but if you really want to be with a girl, you cant miss that, doesnt matter what you do in the freeroams and if you miss something there...

But yeah i agree, things should be way more obivious in that department, but well... thats what quicksafe is for.

 

[NeonFaithxx]

yeah and a little later on you got messages from Val and Jade on the phone like you were together with them... well, i wasnt. Again, nothing major cause after this the game continues with my decisions like it has to be, but yeah, some fixes are needed here and there, but well... which update doesnt need some fixes here and there?

Overall, i liked the update, seems that episode 6 will be kind of an "great finale" with major impact. Cant wait for it... love this game so much, yeah the mafia and adam thing is a little too much i admit... getting into murder and such. But especially all the girls are just loveable, and how the relationship between them and the MC is going is just lovely.

Agreed the thing that makes me always come back to this game are the characters they're some of my favorites

 

[kkevin33]

Im on the Jenny and Elizabeth path but why MC said with Elizabeth that it was his first kiss ??? did he lie ?

 

[Anus Mundi]

Im on the Jenny and Elizabeth path but why MC said with Elizabeth that it was his first kiss ??? did he lie ?

The scene should play out correct codewise but it doesn't. There's a similar situation with Rebecca in MCs room when she talks about the promise he made. Same outcome => doesn't work out properly.
Thanks for pointing it out. There is a workaround for this problem.

Edit:
Since for me some scenes seemed to not work out properly i made some changes to the coding. For those who like to try i'm attaching a patch. Feel free (but at your own risk ). You'll have to restart at the beginning of Chapter 3. Changes are marked with "#fixed".

Spoiler: Changelog

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[D2M3]

There's something very wrong with the pacing of this game's narrative.

It feels like it's a TV show that has first 3 episodes and then final 2 episodes available to stream only from a 13-15 episode season.

 

[kkevin33]

The scene should play out correct codewise but it doesn't. There's a similar situation with Rebecca in MCs room when she talks about the promise he made. Same outcome => doesn't work out properly.
Thanks for pointing it out. There is a workaround for this problem.

Edit:
Since for me some scenes seemed to not work out properly i made some changes to the coding. For those who like to try i'm attaching a patch. Feel free (but at your own risk ). You'll have to restart at the beginning of Chapter 3. Changes are marked with "#fixed".

Spoiler: Changelog

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so the true is if the scene play out correctly he will say it not his first kiss ?