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Sancho1969

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WVM makes me want to gag. ... Patreon wins over what would be best for that story.
As is usually always the case. Hence why I have zero, zlich, nada monetary sites under my coding pseudonym. I'm one of the few that has no ulterior motive and nothing to gain through any of my works I decide to supply publicly. Of course those that have followed my work for some time know why my stance is this way... and the repercussions of being the black sheep.

Just to be fair against pathing complications I will sincerely admit that combinations of multiple LI's are a bitch to deal with. I've way more hours than I should in the SanchoCheats blocks to keep them as pure as possible by going up to 3 variable requirements back for each stage. It's worse on coding demands than BaDIK was, for real. This has been the largest delay cause regarding me being satisfied to release SanchoMod for this VN. I can't wait to hear the reactions regarding the FreeRoam info in the MiniStat screen though... I say this since I sort of impressed myself which is hard to do :ROFLMAO:.

Anyway, time to refill the ol' Crown & Coke then get back to it. Have a good one and regards.
 

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By the definition you impose then just about the only VN that meets that criteria is WVM :ROFLMAO:
Maybe read agian, no where did i said it needs all, All i'm asking for is a clear cut way get the "mini" harem without all this complication.

all i want is Val, Jenny, and sung maybe thats possible but considering how complicated the choice options are with random locking and blocking paths I have no clue how do it.

I'd even settle for a Val/Jenny but that doesn't seem possible either
 

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Maybe read agian, no where did i said it needs all, All i'm asking for is a clear cut way get the "mini" harem without all this complication.

all i want is Val, Jenny, and sung maybe thats possible but considering how complicated the choice options are with random locking and blocking paths I have no clue how do it.

I'd even settle for a Val/Jenny but that doesn't seem possible either
I gave it to you in my first reply. You should read again, bud:
... neither Jen nor Jade give a hoot if MC sees others... they're actually pushing him to do it over and over in the dialogue. MC can pick either Eli or Aur, so now we're up to three women, all fuckable from the get-go. Replace Jen with Val or Vic as desired. Ash is the curve ball that changes things a bit but on the other group of LI's. ...
 

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If your looking for just scenes, then here's the bottom-line deal:
(I'll publish a proper pathing guide for routes after the mod is release)
  • Ash (must have her Love route, Harem excludes scene) or Ash/Jad
  • Jen or Jen/Jad
  • Jad or Jad/(any other LI)
  • Sung or Sung/Jad
  • Val or Val/Jad
  • Vic or Vic/Jad
  • Aur OR Eli (mix either of them with any of the above as their scenes are point dependent only)
That's it for scenes, basically (this is not a routing guide but scene guide). Again this is just to outline as I don't feel like typing an entire guide ATM, the mod coding and release takes priority.
 
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I gave it to you in my first reply. You should read again, bud:
ya i read that but im not seeing how its possible... i keep getting hit with "if jenroute" "else "if valroute" elswe something else

everything in the walkthrough shows its either you pick one or the other you can't have both, you don't get both unless theres new variable in later chapters that changes it i'm at the hotel now (chapter 3) and i only have like val content and i made sure not to pick any of the options that said "blocks/locks path"

As far as i can tell its 3 main LI Val, Jen, Ash you have to go for one and get whatever random "harem" girls that comes with them
 
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ya i read that but im not seeing how its possible... i keep getting hit with "if jenroute" "else "if valroute" elswe something else

everything in the walkthrough shows its either you pick one or the other you can't have both, you don't get both unless theres new variable in later chapters that changes it i'm at the hotel now (chapter 3) and i only have like val content and i made sure not to pick any of the options that said "blocks/locks path"
Bud, look at the highlighted portion in the post again: REPLACE Jen WITH Val or Vic as desired.

To be clear you can't have Jen/Val that's one or the other. Same with Vic. You can't have Jen/Val, Jen/Vic, Val/Vic from that grouping. Jade is your mixer (along with Elizabeth OR Aurora). Aur or Eli can be mixed with anyone. Jade can be mixed with her grouping (Jen's house group). Reb is special, we don't know about her yet EXCEPT to be awarded the RebeccaLoyal event you can't fuck with anybody but the side LI's.

Edit: So, you can multiple LI's but only those that the dev has determined you can have... that's where the routing becomes complicated for folks as it's not just a "pick a few of these and run with it" type of gig.
 
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For Rebecca purists to obtain [RebeccaLoyal] event you can't do any of the following:
  • Date night with Jen
  • Kiss Ash
  • Gym with Val
  • Sex with Jad at pool
 

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Bud, look at the highlighted portion in the post again: REPLACE Jen WITH Val or Vic as desired.
Thats what i assume but since you replied agian with that i then assumed i mis-interpreted the first time.

and this is part of the reason IMHO this isn't a Harem game im "forced" to pick one main girl and then im stuck with w/e combo the dev decided to stick in with those girls rather i like them or not and sadly i don;'t care to much for some of the side girls the ones i like don't match up with the main girl i want

Lots of options to block route but not alot to get the combo you want
 

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Thats what i assume but since you replied agian it i assumed i missed interpreted that first time.

and this is part of the reason IMHO this isn't a Harem game im "forced" to pick one main girl and then im stuck with w/e combo the dev decided to stick in with those girls rather i like them or not and sadly i don;'t care to much for some of the side girls the ones i like don't match up with the main girl i want

Lots of options to block route but not alot to get the combo you want
I can appreciate your point of view, sincerely. Everyone just has to remember your playing the dev's game, it's their vision that they hope you enjoy. This is not a whack-a-mole, duck-hunt Atari2600 game. Just know that going in that your decisions WILL have repercussions. It's not going to be a romp good ol' fun time all around fuckfest. The only thing that pisses me off is the shitty grammatical and sentence structures. If that was tight this story would have so much more impact. Think of this title as you would "Leap of Faith" or "Chasing Sunsets" for example as far as consequences of your actions.
 

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If your looking for just scenes, then here's the bottom-line deal:
(I'll publish a proper pathing guide for routes after the mod is release)
  • Ash (must have her Love route, Harem excludes scene)
  • Jen or Jen/Jad
  • Jad or Jad/Jen or Jad/Val
  • Sung
  • Val or Val/Jad
  • Vic or (Vic/Jad if I remember correctly works but I've been drinking so...)
  • Aur OR Eli (mix either of them with any of the above as their scenes are point dependent only)
That's it for scenes, basically (this is not a routing guide but scene guide). Again this is just to outline as I don't feel like typing an entire guide ATM, the mod coding and release takes priority.
note the bottom bullet folks.
Aurora and Elizabeth. Actually, based upon my experience, they really only work well with Jen. But if the man says they work with them all then so be it. I am talking from a Jen point of view.
peace
 

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Ok game, shorter than I thought it would be. will take another 3 years to have enough content for more than 1 sitting. I guess people are liking for the potential it might have. Good luck dev. The asian chick is very cute.
 

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Arigon at the moment all my beta testers don't really know if my cheats are truly right/wrong in their testing so at some point after public release I wouldn't mind your opinion on their toggle behaviors in your experience. To put it in basic terms I'm coding it so if the user selects a certain route it turns off/on those that would otherwise during normal playthrough to make sure folks don't fuck up their game saves. I know modders don't do this ever.... but I do. I pride myself on bulletproof cheats but ain't gonna lie, this isn't the easiest task to code. If it's not your thing then no worries but I always value input whether it's positive or negative... since I'm a bit of a perfectionist in my mods, especially the dynamic ChoiceGuides. So much so that most devs start communicating with me but I reckon this VN will be the exception to that normal rule, just a huntch.
 
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Arigon at the moment all my beta testers don't really know if my cheats are truly right/wrong in their testing so at some point after public release I wouldn't mind your opinion on their toggle behaviors in your experience. To put it in basic terms I'm coding it so if the user selects a certain route it turns off/on those that would otherwise during normal playthrough to make sure folks don't fuck up their game saves. I know modders don't do this ever.... but I do. I pride myself on bulletproof cheats but ain't gonna lie, this isn't the easiest task to code. If it's not your thing then no worries but I always value input whether it's positive or negative... since I'm a bit of a perfectionist in my mods, especially the dynamic ChoiceGuides. So much so that most devs start communicating with me but I reckon this VN will be the exception to that normal rule, just a huntch.
Sure thing.
Just let me know when you have it ready.
Peace
 

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Okay, last post before I gotta crash (it's after 1am in my timezone and I've been drinking so... yeah).

SanchoMod - Dynamic FreeRoam details

Pending wall of text which I'll put in a spoiler for those that don't give a shit about the mod. I respect your personal view and, frankly speaking, don't care if you use my mods or not as I benefit not either way. But for those that do you'll likely find this rather ass-kickingly interesting and beneficial to what is coming:
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So there you go. Fucking badass, ain't it? Yeah, I think so too. Thanks for reading through that explanation but I hope that enlightens folks on just one of the many features contained in SanchoMod that goes above and beyond, giving you the power of choice. The choice to play as you want. Spoiler light, spoiler heavy, spoiler free, GUI customization only, pro replay gallery, whatever. Everything can be toggled on/off and/or adjusted as YOU want, not what I think you want. That's how a mod should be imho. But you do you, I'll just do my best to provide the tools that allow me and you to do that with professional, top of the line coding that's rock solid and dependable.

Thank you for your time and good night. Time to get my drunk ass some rest. Regards and be well.
 
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Hi everyone, it's been 2 weeks after the release of CHP. 5 and I'm here to share extended thoughts on the project.

1. ABOUT CHAPTER 5
First, the journey to complete this chapter had been daunting. Initially, I wanted to add the changes to the prologue chapter along with this chapter, but with how many bugs there are currently on chapter 5, it's honestly a good idea to push the changes back for another time. I can't imagine how much more buggy it will be otherwise.

To be frank, I've overworked myself to complete this chapter. With the number of renders and animations, this chapter is significantly tougher to complete compared to the previous chapters.
On average, I had to finish at least 30+ finished and edited renders a day with the appropriate script that accompanied them, this includes weekends and holidays. Animations are a whole other beast to handle, each animation easily taking a day or more to animate and render. This doesn't include scenes that didn't make the cut, or scenes that have to be remade.

I know that a lot of other developers are way better at this job than I am. Even if this is my first project, there's no excuse to not do better.

2. Chapter 6
Chapter 6 will be the last chapter for the first season of AoA academy. It will come in 2 parts, the first coming in August, and the second part will be in December. There will be endings based on each of the main LI's.

3. Closing words and my gratitude.
I don't want to make this post to complain, because I'm not. It's a part of the job (And my job is hardly the hardest job in this world).

In fact, I'm extremely lucky to be in this position today, and all of it is thanks to you who have supported me, despite my flaws. I felt that you deserved nothing but my best efforts in return.

I believed I've done all that I could in terms of the visual aspect of the actual product, particularly with the renders and animations.

In terms of writing, story, and the other aspects that surrounded this project, I fully acknowledge that none of those are my strong aspects as a developer.
Being social is genuinely difficult for me to do, and combined with my intense work schedule, I simply couldn't provide the proper community experience to all of you. To compensate for that, I strive to do more with the actual content itself. That's why I kept pushing further, despite knowing how much more work it would give me.

I love this project. I love the characters, they're all flawed, but interesting people. I sometimes hated that I couldn't give all these characters their proper storyline.

That being said, Thank you for all of your support! I want to use this post to own up to my mistakes and shortcomings, and to be crystal clear with my thoughts on this project.
 

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If main Li's are getting endings soon I'm very curious as to where season 2 is going. I just hope we aren't forced out of relationships and get to choose who to leave behind. But based on tlg's comments it seems likes he's apologizing in advance for how season 1 will end. Are we going to be forced off paths? Are Li's going to die? Are we going to be bottlenecked into a limited amount of routes? I'm worried. Leave Vicky alone!
 
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Well Aurora, that's a real nice dress you had planned...:unsure: View attachment 1840627
The grossest of the multiple inconsistencies of this kind can still be found in Ch1.
The MC can decide to have breakfast with Ash and meet Sung Ji for the first time, or to go to the academy on his own, where he'll bump into Valerie and Rebecca and then visit the library with them.
Even if you did't have breakfast with Ash, and therefore never met Sung Ji, later on you still talk to her in the library during the freeroam as if you had met before.
On that route, the MC and Sung Ji are NEVER introduced.
Chapter 1. A version from over 1.5 years ago.
 

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As for the periodical harem discussion, let me bring back a couple of my posts from earlier this year:

I admit it was my fault for assuming things, but it may turn out that our so-called "mini-harems" aren't mini after all, but just harems.

https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2021-05-02.10394/


Fuck me! :(

You'all have to ask the dev himself because we have no fucking clue. There's been much discussion about it here.

This site should really tackle some issues regarding certain misleading tags, to be more precise the harem and animated tags.

According to this site, there's a harem if the MC can date simultaneously 3 girls (or more) who are ok with it. However, I bet my left arm that without reading those rules the vast majority would understand harems as possibly involving every single LI in a game. I doubt Arabian harems were composed of just 3 women, right?
On the other hand, a game receives the "animated" tag even if it just includes a couple of walking animations early on and then nothing. This is an adult site; if I read animated, I believe that it's sex scenes that are animated. Or at the very least, I understand that animations of any type should be a common feature in that game.

Solution? Well, to me it would be extremely easy. It would just take approving a couple of additional tags that at the moment don't exist:
- Harem: just as it is now, 3 or more girls at the same time.
- Full Harem: needs no explanation.
- Animations: just as it is now, the game contains one or more animations of any type.
- Animated: the game includes many animations, either sexual or non-sexual, or both.
- Animated Sex: again it's self-explanatory; as a general rule sex scenes are animated.

I don't think it would cost anything to implement and it would make things much clearer for everyone.
Now, after reading again the definition of the "harem" tag there's something that just dawned on me: Wouldn't it be necessary for everyone to have sex at the same time, that is, an orgy?
"all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously."
According to this site's definition, there wouldn't be a harem if the MC has simultaneous romantic relationships with 3 girls but has sex with them only separately, 1 by 1.
 
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