VN Ren'Py Abandoned A.O.A. Academy [Ch.5 Gold] [TLGGAMES]

[SerHawkes]

You can have sex with Jadetwice,
also also after the second time you get a chance to kiss her.
(I believe the kiss is Very important ie like the promises that other LIs wanted)

Jadey twice over while teasing us with a thirdy.

But I agree, kissing is kinda like promises that down the road. That we are showing interest and with intent to cash in those chips at a later date.

 

[tlarsen]

It was always very clear imo since ep 1 that this game was going to involve Sexual abuse and thereby be a darker themed game so unless you're a newcomer to this game there's no real reason for you to complain now about it's involvement

 

[doe50818]

It was always very clear imo since ep 1 that this game was going to involve Sexual abuse and thereby be a darker themed game so unless you're a newcomer to this game there's no real reason for you to complain now about it's involvement

Selectively with one or two characters, sure, no problem, loved to play Avalon. But

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of all the romanceable characters? Don't you think that's a little bit too much?

 

[SerHawkes]

Selectively with one or two characters, sure, no problem, loved to play Avalon. But 5/8 of all the romanceable characters? Don't you think that's a little bit too much?

Let's see...
Val, Jade for sure. Everyone else is up in the air. And oh yeah, this is the BETA, which means things might or might not change. If you are this entirely upset by this story, this game might not just be for you. Plain and simple.

 

[doe50818]

Let's see...
Val, Jade for sure. Everyone else is up in the there certainly. And oh yeah, this is the BETA, which means things might or might not change. If you are this entirely upset by this story, this game might not just be for you. Plain and simple.

I'm "upset" by an individual character flair becoming a repetitive theme, it devolves the story content, which we all enjoyed, into an almost cookie-cutter ensemble of me picking up the broken pieces and putting together what's left. With all of them.

By the way add Jenny to that list. With her comment in the beta about all the girls in her group being in similar circumstances, and her sudden change in mood being called a slut the first scene you encounter her, that's completely obvious now. Daddy was diddling her 99%.

 

[tlarsen]

Selectively with one or two characters, sure, no problem, loved to play Avalon. But

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of all the romanceable characters? Don't you think that's a little bit too much?

I will agree with you that there should 100% be some “normal girls” too in the story and as for i can see/know all the girls outside of Jenny's circle seem to fit that for now at least the only one who seems to possibly have been through something is Vic

 

[SerHawkes]

I'm "upset" by an individual character flair becoming a repetitive theme, it devolves the story content, which we all enjoyed, into an almost cookie-cutter ensemble of me picking up the broken pieces and putting together what's left. With all of them.

Again, this is the BETA. From until the final version, it may change with some of the characters backstory. It might not. Thats for the dev to decide. It's their story.

And in terms of "devolves" the story not is up to each of the players and their own opinions. For me, I don't mind the tragicness of what happened. It adds that characters character and how appropriately I want to care for them and such.

And like I said before: If you are this upset with this game, you don't have to play it. The dev isn't going to cater to everyone wishes and hopes. If they want to have a semi darkish story yet turns happy and hopefully by the end, so be it.

 

[doe50818]

Again, this is the BETA. From until the final version, it may change with some of the characters backstory. It might not. Thats for the dev to decide. It's their story.

And in terms of "devolves" the story not is up to each of the players and their own opinions. For me, I don't mind the tragicness of what happened. It adds that characters character and how appropriately I want to care for them and such.

And like I said before: If you are this upset with this game, you don't have to play it. The dev isn't going to cater to everyone wishes and hopes. If they want to have a semi darkish story yet turns happy and hopefully by the end, so be it.

If you don't like it, don't have it, is such a cop-out argument, don't you agree? There are numerous ways the developer could have communicated that this will be a common theme with these 5 girls, that they share this one thing from their past.

 

[Ahchi]

Jadey twice over while teasing us with a thirdy.

But I agree, kissing is kinda like promises that down the road. That we are showing interest and with intent to cash in those chips at a later date.

What I think a lot players are missing is that at the end of Chapter 2
All our relationships with the main LIs ( Ashley, Jade, Jenny and Valery )changed.
Now the LIs seem unsure, Like that they are afraid of making a wrong move.

As for Vicky: Letting her share your bed was like a promise,
But I get a feeling that Vicky is NOT a LI But as a "Bro Interest "
In that she needs/wants a Best Friend,
Someone she can trust and turn to when she need help.
And who would also trust her and would not afraid to seek her help when needed.

 

[SerHawkes]

I will agree with you that there should 100% be some “normal girls” too in the story and as for i can see/know all the girls outside of Jenny's circle seem to fit that for now at least the only one who seems to possibly have been through something is Vic

Eh... kinda, same with Ash though. But at the same time that would lead to more 'side chicks' and such and might take away from the other lovely ladies that deserve our attention.

 

[SerHawkes]

What I think a lot players are missing is that at the end of Chapter 2
All our relationships with the main LIs ( Ashley, Jade, Jenny and Valery )changed.
Now they seem unsure, Like that they are afraid of making a wrong move.

As for Vicky: Letting her share your bed was like a promise,
But I get a feeling that Vicky is NOT a LI But as a "Bro Interest "
In that she needs/wants a Best Friend,
Someone she can trust and turn to when she need help.
And who would also trust her and would not afraid to seek her help when needed.

Considering what happens in Chapter 3, which I will say is kinda soon for drama a bit, it does kinda put everyone in a spot where we want to show interest yet at the same time we want to be there for someone be it romantically or as friend. Plus it's kinda too soon for real relationship to truly form. Hint at and suggest, sure, but legit perma, nah.

With Vicky though, I kinda agree with that she might want a best friend/brofriend, but at the same time I kinda feel like she does kind want a little bit romance in her life with someone that isn't an asshole or a dick to her.

 

[Soundgfx]

Yes it does, because Valerie's past abuse is actually depicted. Like I said, play the game to argue about the content. Your educated guesses are leading nowhere.



Oh look, an ad absurdum. No, I don't care if it's consensual and in the past. IN. THE. PAST! Not PRESENTLY DEPICTED.

Have you actually read my comment?

Lets see, let me quote it -

Valery isn't in anyway romantically attached to the main character before she was abused so it definitely doesn't count. It's just straight up sexual abuse.


I think you're talking Valery's sexual abuse way too personal. You have to remember that this is part of her characterization, now your criticism of the way her characterization is handled is pretty valid but I don't think you should be angry with the fact that she was raped.

How is any of this a reduction to absurdity, your argument that valery's depiction of post-rape as ntr is no way near right because that's not ntr at all. Do you just count intercourse with a LI and another, whether consensual or not as ntr because it wasn't with the main character?


How is this a source of grievance or alienating for non-ntr fans anyway when it's not even ntr in the first place?

 

[Deleted member 3428287]

90% of men in this game are total perverts so I wouldn't be that surprised if we learn Jenny got raped as well.

BUT:

- Jenny getting raped by person who adopted her is too similar to Valery's story, do we really need to replay the same story over & over again, this dev ought to be more original than that.
- Jenny's backstory focuses on her brain tumor & her inability to sleep, to shift the focus from that to her getting raped by some degenerate is in such poor taste.

*Also, the dev imagining a dude adopting a little girl who just went through hell, a girl who already gave up on life only to rape her is beyond fucked up. I don't think he'll do it.

 

[doe50818]

Have you actually read my comment?

Lets see, let me quote it -

How is any of this a reduction to absurdity, your argument that valery's depiction of post-rape as ntr is no way near right because that's not ntr at all. Do you just count intercourse with a LI and another, whether consensual or not as ntr because it wasn't with the main character?


How is this a source of grievance or alienating for non-ntr fans anyway when it's not even ntr in the first place?

Dude, I've literally quoted two separate comments from two different people and replied them in the same comment, do you even know how to forum? Because you certainly don't know how to peruse content before discussing it...

 

[doe50818]

90% of men in this game are total perverts so I wouldn't be that surprised if we learn Jenny got raped as well.

BUT:

- Jenny getting raped by person who adopted her is too similar to Valery's story, do we really need to replay the same story over & over again, this dev ought to be more original than that.
- Jenny's backstory focuses on her brain surgery & her inability to sleep, to shift the focus from that to her getting raped by some degenerate is in such poor taste.

*Also, the dev imagining a dude adopting a little girl who just went through hell, a girl who already gave up on life only to rape her is beyond fucked up. I don't think he'll do it.

Yes, it's fucked up beyond belief, just wait for it... the only way it won't happen now is if the developer retcons it, which would be easy, because so far there are only implications. (I made this a separate comment so Soundgfx stops being confused)

 

[Soundgfx]

Dude, I've literally quoted two separate comments from two different people and replied them in the same comment, do you even know how to forum? Because you certainly don't know how to peruse content before discussing it...

Oh I'm actually using my phone at the moment and the UI is kinda shitty.

 

[Talmadge]

What is the Gold Patch? Is it an IC patch or something? I'm just curious if I should DL it or not.

 

[doe50818]

What is the Gold Patch? Is it an IC patch or something? I'm just curious if I should DL it or not.

Extra gallery content, and finished (proofread, finalized) script.

 

[Soundgfx]

90% of men in this game are total perverts so I wouldn't be that surprised if we learn Jenny got raped as well.

BUT:

- Jenny getting raped by person who adopted her is too similar to Valery's story, do we really need to replay the same story over & over again, this dev ought to be more original than that.
- Jenny's backstory focuses on her brain tumor & her inability to sleep, to shift the focus from that to her getting raped by some degenerate is in such poor taste.

*Also, the dev imagining a dude adopting a little girl who just went through hell, a girl who already gave up on life only to rape her is beyond fucked up. I don't think he'll do it.

It'd be kinda crap if they all got raped, sure sexual abuse could be a compelling way to draw some juices for character development like overcoming their trauma and whatnot but that's kinda boring if they all had experienced something similar and all the main character had to do was show them some real love and affection for them to overcome it, it works once but it'd be boring if that's all it takes for all of them to get naked.


It could work tho but judging from the way most people are reacting the beta version, I doubt it's working well.

 

[Darkdevil66]

I will agree with you that there should 100% be some “normal girls” too in the story and as for i can see/know all the girls outside of Jenny's circle seem to fit that for now at least the only one who seems to possibly have been through something is Vic

Honestly the darker themes and the abuse aren't really the issue. I don't even mind the slow burn aspect but the contrast between the different girls is just too violent. On one side, we have Ashley & Sung Ji whom for now have no story or issue beyond their insecurities and Vicky with her minor issue with the jackass and jealous brother. And on the other side, we have Jenny's group facing issue honestly far beyond MC's reach like dealing with a fucking mafia organisation and a Frank Underwood wannabe trying to destroy Jenny and MC's futur with money, blackmail and shady relation and who knows what the future holds with Rebekka and Jade. Ashley's group and their minor issues look like secondary characters totally irrelevant with the more important dark plots.

This whole Cartel storyline is too forced. It's ten times bigger than the whole drugs & prostitution ring, or religious jerk father in BADIK. Right now, the game's trying to be too many things at once. It's just feel like you're confronted with sad backstory on repeat without really getting any story with half of the others characters like Ashley's group. If we'll have to deal with every girl personal trauma one by one while Ashley, Sung Ji, Vicky and Elizabeth remain satellite characters it's gonna be quickly repetitive and frustrating.