VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Ellie and Alyssa are on two separate routes that don't cross over and the reason for this will become clearer later on and also the reason why they are so different,besides the obvious.

I thought it was entirely possible to still play the Ellie route even if you chose the Alyssa event. Just that you'd miss the current Ellie scenes and probably lock out further scenes with Julia, which I guess is what he meant by "one option less"

But choosing the Ellie/Julia event locks out the Alyssa storyline (which if you're just playing the Ellie route is locked out anyway..

Shit completely forgot Patricia... She is 2nd above Natalie, when she isnt trying to force Sofia into BBC worship BS like at the gym, their interactions are comedy gold, and pretty steamy.

Honestly I would play an entire game with just them two, call it "Two Lonely Milf Sisters"... and make it all about them traveling across Europe or Asia and getting into Hijinks while fucking each other senseless, and maybe inviting hot young guys into their bed every once in a while (without fucking blackmail or rape !).

And, she has managed to get Sophia completely naked twice in just 8 events. First time you only need around 8 - 9 Filthy points (to get F > GW). Tongue down her throat on the 7th event on her route. This is what I mean by not having a problem with the game progression, at least on the routes I play.

As for a game with just those two, yeah, I could play it, but I'd want them to seduce girls too.

 

[bamachine]

Shit completely forgot Patricia... She is 2nd above Natalie, when she isnt trying to force Sofia into BBC worship BS like at the gym, their interactions are comedy gold, and pretty steamy.

Honestly I would play an entire game with just them two, call it "Two Lonely Milf Sisters"... and make it all about them traveling across Europe or Asia and getting into Hijinks while fucking each other senseless, and maybe inviting hot young guys into their bed every once in a while (without fucking blackmail or rape !).

If I have my way, the only cock that will get near Soph is either Carl(mostly to cuck Liam's stupid ass) or Larry(I think Soph actually truly awoke her inner libido during that scene). Otherwise, she should stick to the lesbian express line. I hate both blackmail and/or sexual assault/rape in the games I play. If they are there but can be avoided through choice or fighting back, then fine. Never, ever glorify them though or the game and it's creators/fans are on my GTFO list.

 

[Old Dog]

If I have my way, the only cock that will get near Soph is either Carl(mostly to cuck Liam's stupid ass) or Larry(I think Soph actually truly awoke her inner libido during that scene). Otherwise, she should stick to the lesbian express line. I hate both blackmail and/or sexual assault/rape in the games I play. If they are there but can be avoided through choice or fighting back, then fine. Never, ever glorify them though or the game and it's creators/fans are on my GTFO list.

There will be no sexual assault/rape/violence in this games.

 

[bamachine]

There will be no sexual assault/rape in this games.

Which is why it is really high on my list of favorites. There should be more female protagonists with agency to decide who and when they will be sexually active. I have no illusions that sexual assault/rape can be 100% avoided IRL, I know actual victims. I also know the way it is portrayed in far too many games/porn/etc., is utter bullshit and reprehensible. If it shows up and is somehow avoidable, through fighting back(rarely easy IRL) or it is treated as something serious, where we see the victim trying to heal from it, I can understand it as part of a narrative. Too many times it is portrayed as something thrilling for the viewer and trivial for the victim, even sometimes having the victim enjoy it at the end. That actually pisses me off.

 

[Alley_Cat]

If I have my way, the only cock that will get near Soph is either Carl(mostly to cuck Liam's stupid ass) or Larry(I think Soph actually truly awoke her inner libido during that scene). Otherwise, she should stick to the lesbian express line. I hate both blackmail and/or sexual assault/rape in the games I play. If they are there but can be avoided through choice or fighting back, then fine. Never, ever glorify them though or the game and it's creators/fans are on my GTFO list.

That's why I find the statements about the "power" Aiden has over Sophia somewhat amusing. It's as false as Ellie's sexual experience. It's far too easy for Sophia to exert her contacts and influence, which through Carl is not insignificant and tell him to go to hell.

If you want to play Aiden's route, sure, but his blackmail is mainly a bluff.

 

[bamachine]

That's why I find the statements about the "power" Aiden has over Sophia somewhat amusing. It's as false as Ellie's sexual experience. It's far too easy for Sophia to exert her contacts and influence, which through Carl is not insignificant and tell him to go to hell.

If you want to play Aiden's route, sure, but his blackmail is mainly a bluff.

The mere fact that our girl can choose to say no to the blackmail route makes it so that if she says yes, she is giving consent. I have no issue with someone being submissive, if that is their kink but it should always come back to consent. Things done with that in mind come from a place of love, rather than hate.

 

[farrah]

There will be no sexual assault/rape/violence in this games.

But almost every hetero storyline is somehow connected with blackmail.

 

[Old Dog]

But almost every hetero storyline is somehow connected with blackmail.

mention Ellie and you can be sure that farrah will pop up.
I never mentioned blackmail

 

[Alley_Cat]

The mere fact that our girl can choose to say no to the blackmail route makes it so that if she says yes, she is giving consent. I have no issue with someone being submissive, if that is their kink but it should always come back to consent. Things done with that in mind come from a place of love, rather than hate.

You seem to have skipped what storylines are your favourite though. Care to share?

But almost every hetero storyline is somehow connected with blackmail.

Even Alyssa's if you consider that it's not even available without doing Aiden''s tasks.

I believe Sam's is the only hetero storyline that isn't. Even Zac is connected indirectly.

mention Ellie and you can be sure that farrah will pop up.
I never mentioned blackmail

bamachine did.

 

[Old Dog]

You seem to have skipped what storylines are your favourite though. Care to share?


Even Alyssa's if you consider that it's not even available without doing Aiden''s tasks.

I believe Sam's is the only hetero storyline that isn't. Even Zac is connected indirectly.


bamachine did.

Blame Alley_Cat

 

[Sabertooth__]

From everyone's replies the thing I realized is that most people love Alyssa and Ellie and Patricia as well. Almost every list has them at the top. I too love them.
Aiden is not liked much which is confusing since the thread has been all about his task for the past week or so.
Dylan, just like I suspected is not liked as a character by people.
Sam is mentioned a little bit. Personally I dislike him more than Dylan since he has the same intentions as Dylan but more cunning in execution. Atleast the fact that Dylan is honest makes him better than Sam for me personally.

So mostly ( atleast the active members ) people are liking the lesbian route.

 

[Alley_Cat]

From everyone's replies the thing I realized is that most people love Alyssa and Ellie and Patricia as well. Almost every list has them at the top. I too love them.
Aiden is not liked much which is confusing since the thread has been all about his task for the past week or so.
Dylan, just like I suspected is not liked as a character by people.
Sam is mentioned a little bit. Personally I dislike him more than Dylan since he has the same intentions as Dylan but more cunning in execution. Atleast the fact that Dylan is honest makes him better than Sam for me personally.

So mostly ( atleast the active members ) people are liking the lesbian route.

Oh, I think you'll find the Dylan fans just haven't weighed in yet. He is the character with the most fans with the greatest influence. That can't be disputed.

 

[Old Dog]

when do you think the next meeting between sophia and deshawn is scheduled?

We don't know the date for it yet but it is optional

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

We don't know the date for it yet but it is optional

should / could it be going to a basketball game?

 

[Old Dog]

should / could it be going to a basketball game?

I can tell you that it could involve another sauna visit.

 

[bamachine]

You seem to have skipped what storylines are your favourite though. Care to share?

Even though incest is not my personal thing, no issues with those that it is their thing, Patricia and the Ellie scenes were pretty hot. The scene with Ellie and Julia teasing our MC, muy bueno. Speaking of that, need some Elena for Soph. As for the possible hetero connection, the only one so far that I played into was with Larry. Him and Carl are the only ones I would allow to be with my MC. Carl because he is so nice to everyone and it would totally cuck Liam's whiny, no self control ass. Don't get me wrong, Liam is a good character...for me to poop on.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I can tell you that it could involve another sauna visit.

yes, I think so too; and we hope it is better than the previous one. the problem is that it will be in a long time.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Also one thing I would like to mention. From what we've seen in the game it is clear in my opinion that L&P can really create great female characters. Looks as well as personality like Sophia, Patricia, Ellie, Alyssa. In contrast to the male characters. None are lovable and have much of a personality except for being perverts.
Either he loves or is naturally good at making female characters or maybe he is pretty lazy when trying to write male ones

 

[sphynks80]

The only character I consider as Sophia's partner is Dylan. All the others are just pale extras. supporting actors useful to keep the story going and that's it. Fillers, cannon fodder.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Even though incest is not my personal thing, no issues with those that it is their thing, Patricia and the Ellie scenes were pretty hot. The scene with Ellie and Julia teasing our MC, muy bueno. Speaking of that, need some Elena for Soph. As for the possible hetero connection, the only one so far that I played into was with Larry. Him and Carl are the only ones I would allow to be with my MC. Carl because he is so nice to everyone and it would totally cuck Liam's whiny, no self control ass. Don't get me wrong, Liam is a good character...for me to poop on.

Funnily enough, I suspect the jealousy Liam has of Carl and his wealth is what is driving Liam to work stupidly long hours, take risks like gambling away a significant portion of his house, and being a proper father to Dylan. I mean Liam thinks Dylan's uncertainty around women is because he might be gay. If Liam took more interest in Dylan's interests like photography, he would know that isn't the case. Dylan would also get to hang around hots of cute girls and hot models.

Which is precisely what is driving Sophia to take the risks she is, which would drive her further into someone supportive like Carl, who organised Dylan's spot on the football team and place at boarding school. Is throwing funds at lawyers to help with Aiden, without a second thought.