VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[xxxorro]

If I'm not too late for the ranking game, I prefer the lesbian routes:

1. Alyssa and Patricia, in alphabetical order, are tie in my preferences. I loved the connection between Alyssa and Sophia, from day one to the coffee "date", don't even get me started with the sexual tension during that Antonio event. That was super hot, I just wished that her hand lingered a bit more on Sophia's leg at the end.
   Patricia... well as I said in a previous post she has a more central role in the story that it seems. She is a sort of enabler for Sophia. As character, she is funny and I love how she pushes Sophia. I'm dying to see more scenes, especially that farm escapade during the weekend. I still wonder what's her angle though, if she is just trying to loosen Sophia (but why?) or she wants something more, like she really attracted to her.
2. Ellie, she is hot and she knows how to "manipulate" Sophia rational thoughts. Shower scenes... just wow
3. Nathalie, the scene in bed was really hot. But so far there is not much "story" between them.

Honorable mention for Claire, she is probably a side character but I'm really intrigued by her and I'd love to see more of her with Sophia. She is a loose cannon just like Patricia. Not to mention that she is a "real" MILF: in most games a MILF is a woman with a perfect body, big boobs and the look of a 25yo, Claire she is not in that stereotype and I really appreciate it, obviously she has not the charm of Sophia, but "body-wise" she is the closest one to the real life thing.

Male-wise: I don't like Bennet's storyline, not really my thing and the "usual" extortion thing. Aiden's storyline, even if there is still extortion, I'm curious to see how the thing evolves, if it will be just another extortion thing or for example Sophia will be able to take more control or even turn the table. I think L&P can surprise us in that respect. But guessing the tasks is too much fun
Finally, I prefer Dylan over Sam: like many others I don't like the character much (even less before the removal of the Twist) but it's more the taboo storyline that is interesting (to me). Without him, I'd be full in for the seduce-the-milf story of Sam.

 

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[DonRE]

So I am not sure is there a problem with this game or my PC, but this piece of shit game is throwing thousands of exceptions at me during gameplay. I literally can not move because every time when I have exception I need to click on Ignore option and from that point it is just that, going from one exception to next one, skip option is not responding and rollback option is not giving me anything. I am not sure how any of you played this garbage...

 

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[pb_2006]

On your PC, 100% sure
What is your OS ?
What is the type of your exception ?

agree. works fine on simple GTX 1660 Ti build

 

[DonRE]

On your PC, 100% sure
What is your OS ?
What is the type of your exception ?

Win 7 X64 SP1

Text exceptions, something like parameter P is undefined, it starts at the point where workers leave her house and probably her sister arrives.

and from that point every next click is another new exception

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

Not even that. L&P said he was going to start on Jan 6 so that makes it 2 months and a half. If you take out his 3 week issues with the GPUs then he would be at 60% at 7 weeks of work.

Not bad at all. He should aim for 10-15%/week + 1 teaser every week.

I replayed the full game from start to finish yesterday.

He could also hire some coder to code in collectibles and social media app. Collectibles + Social Media app are a must in these games. All he needs is a coder to get them in without breaking the game(and a coder can do it without messing up LP's work) and then LP spends a week doing collectible renders. Adds a lot of value and replayability.

Those perks + the existent render quality + story makes it a top 5 game easily. Right now is in the top 20.

Adding to this:

Someone proficient in daz3d could make the environments instead of L&P wasting time with it. Much easier to change things around in one almost-done environment and add lights than to make one from scratch. Thats days he could subtract from development (months once the full v1.0 version is done) in each version.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Ellie and Alyssa are on two separate routes that don't cross over and the reason for this will become clearer later on and also the reason why they are so different,besides the obvious.

I know and I might understand it more once that reason is revealed, but until then I am still slightly saddened that Sophia can't sleep with both Ellie and Alyssa. I know that v100 update scene with Alyssa did nt give any Lesbian points, But it SHOULD have done, given how subtly erotic it was .

I hope the reason, once it is eventually revealed, justifies my current sadness.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

That's why I find the statements about the "power" Aiden has over Sophia somewhat amusing. It's as false as Ellie's sexual experience. It's far too easy for Sophia to exert her contacts and influence, which through Carl is not insignificant and tell him to go to hell.

If you want to play Aiden's route, sure, but his blackmail is mainly a bluff.

That is the saving grace of Aiden's blackmail for me. Yes it is TOTALLY a bluff. Hence why Aiden can't overplay his hand. We know there are several options that Sophia can take to end it. But if, and it is admittedly a big if, Aiden is subtle about it, each task is only just one teensy bit further than the last one, and so there is no real harm for Sophia to be inclined to acquiesce to his requests...,

And then eventually Sophia has gone past the point of no return and has already started enjoying these tasks.

Now the difficult is getting the balance right. Especially given her position as a teacher and with today's prevalence of camera phones. We need to hit that fine balance between erotic corruption whilst maintaining Sophia's plausible deniability. Its a tough balance to hit.....

 

[Alley_Cat]

Not even that. L&P said he was going to start on Jan 6 so that makes it 2 months and a half. If you take out his 3 week issues with the GPUs then he would be at 60% at 7 weeks of work.

Not bad at all. He should aim for 10-15%/week + 1 teaser every week.

I replayed the full game from start to finish yesterday.

He could also hire some coder to code in collectibles and social media app. Collectibles + Social Media app are a must in these games. All he needs is a coder to get them in without breaking the game(and a coder can do it without messing up LP's work) and then LP spends a week doing collectible renders. Adds a lot of value and replayability.

Those perks + the existent render quality + story makes it a top 5 game easily. Right now is in the top 20.

I believe L&P's aim is an update every 8 - 10 weeks, which, barring problems like moving house, graphics card problems etc, I calculate at 10 - 12.5%/week. If you include a buffer for problems cropping up, 15% doesn't seem unreasonable.

Not sure a teaser a week would work. For an update like this one with 5 events, that would be two teasers each event. And for some events that might be too much of a spoiler. For some events like the Ellie/Julia one, we only got 1 teaser.

 

[Old Dog]

I know and I might understand it more once that reason is revealed, but until then I am still slightly saddened that Sophia can't sleep with both Ellie and Alyssa. I know that v100 update scene with Alyssa did nt give any Lesbian points, But it SHOULD have done, given how subtly erotic it was .

I hope the reason, once it is eventually revealed, justifies my current sadness.

Alyssa and Ellie are rather for more intense relationships, so that's why they are not combinable. All the other girls/women in the game are rather adventures.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

From everyone's replies the thing I realized is that most people love Alyssa and Ellie and Patricia as well. Almost every list has them at the top. I too love them.
Aiden is not liked much which is confusing since the thread has been all about his task for the past week or so.
Dylan, just like I suspected is not liked as a character by people.
Sam is mentioned a little bit. Personally I dislike him more than Dylan since he has the same intentions as Dylan but more cunning in execution. Atleast the fact that Dylan is honest makes him better than Sam for me personally.

So mostly ( atleast the active members ) people are liking the lesbian route.

So far the most action we have gotten is on the lesbian route. And there are a LOT of beautiful female LI's that dev has given us - in no particular order:
Ellie / Julia / Patricia / Alyssa / Vicky / Nathalie / Amber / Cathy
I would be more than happy if, eventually. and maybe requiring different playthroughs and different options taken, Sophia sleeps with ALL of them.

In comparison the guys have so far, understandably, have had less action on the Filthy route. And compared to that amazing list of female LI's, the male LI's are somewhat lacking.

Of the guys, I have warmed most so far to the Sam storyline. I could have totally got on board with Don Morello being a potential LI but gather that dev is not going down that route - it is NOT going to be an Indecent Proposal storyline, which is IMO a shame as I would have liked to se that as an option.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

The relationship that Sophia will have with Alyssa is not compatible with the one that she will have with Ellie.
That is why Alyssa is tied to the Aiden route.

The rational me knows and can accept that.
The emotional me does nt and is still a bit grumpy about it.

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

I believe L&P's aim is an update every 8 - 10 weeks, which, barring problems like moving house, graphics card problems etc, I calculate at 10 - 12.5%/week. If you include a buffer for problems cropping up, 15% doesn't seem unreasonable.

Not sure a teaser a week would work. For an update like this one with 5 events, that would be two teasers each event. And for some events that might be too much of a spoiler. For some events like the Ellie/Julia one, we only got 1 teaser.

There's so much shit he could add to this game in terms of the perks I talked before that I would pay a dev to help him and code those things for a month just so he could see how dumb he's being not going through that route.

He creates a better than average(good) story and has very good renders but damn his stuborness in working alone is costing him a lot of potential profit.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Even though incest is not my personal thing, no issues with those that it is their thing, Patricia and the Ellie scenes were pretty hot. The scene with Ellie and Julia teasing our MC, muy bueno. Speaking of that, need some Elena for Soph. As for the possible hetero connection, the only one so far that I played into was with Larry. Him and Carl are the only ones I would allow to be with my MC. Carl because he is so nice to everyone and it would totally cuck Liam's whiny, no self control ass. Don't get me wrong, Liam is a good character...for me to poop on.

Liam is far better written than most husband / landlord characters in porn games. But rom the start he is clearly written in a way that we are not too sympathetic to him.

Liam has never mistreated Sophia. He has not cheated on her (and I gather the dev has elsewhere said that he would not cheat on her). Yes he has worked late and thus has not spent enough time with any of Sophia / Ellie / Dylan. But you could argue that was in the search of paying off loans on the huge new house and paying for their comfortable family lifestyle. And obviously h got too greedy at Casino.

And I will admit that in my current playthrough that Liam has got no action from Sophia when I have had any choice in the matter. I want to see Sophia on board the corruption train ASAP!!

 

[ancienregimele]

I am often amazed at the contrast between some of the game/VN discussions that unfold across various threads on which I often just lurk but sometimes contribute. It's possible to go from somewhere with fans shouting for more bestiality, to this place where people complain at length about the inclusion in the game of blackmail. Most of my F95 postings have concerned AWAM, which still has some of the best renders anywhere & in Sophia the best woman MC. I'm still here (crazy?) after all these years, despite some of the issues surrounding & detracting from the game, which are well established. Throughout that time I've tried to be diplomatic, mostly, because politeness will facilitate discussion. SO, for instance, I will simply state, as I have on several occasions, that "incest doesn't interest me," rather than, 'I find it to be morally & biologically corrupt, puke-inducing, twisted dross of the most perverted kind,' or similar. .......I've never sought to kink-shame anybody.

I wish that my own kinks were given similar respect. I play games for the escapism, not for moral rectitude, or for guidance on what I should like or dislike. I like blackmail in games of this type, even if it's the half-hearted variety which AWAM purveys. Now, in RL I've never blackmailed anyone & wouldn't dream of doing so, even if I had the opportunity. This is fiction folks. No 3D renders were, or will be, harmed in the making of this game. No pixel people will actually suffer because they're 'actors.' There are so many ways to avoid blackmail that I wish the incest could be dodged as effectively, while still retaining the makings of a worthwhile game.

I've lost track of the number of times that statements to the effect that there will be no extraneous violence or rape in this game, have appeared. I've even put similar words to screen myself, now & again. Having been given that information, I carry on playing, knowing that the blackmail is really only there to corrupt the MC & that it won't lead to much. This is the direct opposite of the incest, where we are aware that the whole climax of a major storyline will involve Sophia being shagged by her relatively inexperienced teenaged son. I'm not whinging about that but I am sick of the high moral tone being taken by some in relation to any hint of coercion, blackmail, or Sophia not being in total control of her life. Who's in control of their life????

 

[Deleted member 2914737]

This is first time im playing a female protagonist.I don't know how to feel or have many thoughts on it.Its different.Do u guys prefer female or male?And well my last thoughts here are , perfect story, its so good.Thanks dev!

 

[FdjsEre]

This is first time im playing a female protagonist.I don't know how to feel or have many thoughts on it.Its different.Do u guys prefer female or male?And well my last thoughts here are , perfect story, its so good.Thanks dev!

I've never played a game with a male character. I find them offensive to women. It's not nice to play as a cattleman who, being a chump himself, treats women like store-bought meat.

 

[FdjsEre]

The most erotic scene in the history of video games was when Sam taught Sophia to play the double bass )))
I'm only waiting for the Sam scenes. I don't care about the rest of them. Sam is a cool guy. Rocker, bold, feisty, psychologically mature. He's a real badass.