VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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viper6 said:
It depends on how you classify content. The game actually has plenty of content (play all branches without skipping), it's just that it could have more, without burning the dev down, with the right issues fixed.

For instance L&P has stated, if I recall correctly, that theres a 5% decrease in time by rendering 1080p with his new setup vs his old setup rendering 720p and a 20% decrease if he renders 720p now with this new setup vs the old one.

Looking at, best case scenario, 8 years of development, just do 720p and let someone upscale it using tools, why throw away a net 15% of development time?

L&P has stated that it takes his new setup 20 to 30 minutes rendering a 1080p image. For simplicity, lets put it at 25 minutes for an average of 600 renders. That's 15000 minutes solely rendering, per update, in 1080p.
Could be 12000 minutes if it was in 720p.
That's a 50 hour difference per each update and will probably grow has he keeps growing the nr of renders per version.
Looking at his version numbers, he still has 58 updates to do * 50 hours, that's 3 months of time lost just on rendering 1080p. A full update time.

If there are great tools right now in 2021 to upscale these renders, in a few years they'll be even better. Use those.

Anyways these lost posts won't do much. If he's really planning on releasing this game until its end in 2028-2030, he needs a plan asap and it's in these tiny things that you take a few days here, a chunk of days there and when you notice you're throwing the same amount of content at a faster pace because you optimized all your work.
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yeah .. u say ur a rich kid and his follower and u cant even read or remember his goal?

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96 % erreicht

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this high goal is really achieved someday:
I cancel all my college courses and devote all my time to my passion of (adult) game development!
I'll give my hardware a massive "face-lift", primarily to render faster and switch from 720p to 1080p quality!

"



The guy lives in my countrie afaik and we have high living cost and an education isnt something u throw just away.. certainly not after it taking so long to come close to that goal. And whatever he is studying should come to a close not far away.. so the goal probably means nothing. He would be an idiot if he were to throw that education close to end.


Next thing is that version numbers dont mean shit when it comes to projects...
There is no plan to that takes him in a 100 updates to the 1.0 ...

upscaling btw work right now best from 1080p and better from 1440 to 4k and not from 720p as that does not have enough information in the image to give highres results.

Also u make a calculation about render times and make a fuzz about 3 month render time vs... and end date in 7 to 9 whole years... and u tell me u had a company and find this important??

And rendering can be done in batches and at night or at a server farm if one has money....so 600 hundred renders in 3 month

24 hours per day times 7 times 3 makes 2016 hours of render time in 3 month.
if he needs only half an hour per render he could make 4000 renders per update....

render time isnt the issue here

and let me make this clear.... 7 times 4 times 3 are 84 days.... 600 renders divided by 84 are like
7.1 render per day.... which takes him 3,5 hours to render per day.....

Seriously if u dont have a plan how things work in cg at all u shouldnt make big statements of what would be the best way todo this.
 
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viper6 said:
It depends on how you classify content. The game actually has plenty of content (play all branches without skipping), it's just that it could have more, without burning the dev down, with the right issues fixed.

For instance L&P has stated, if I recall correctly, that theres a 5% decrease in time by rendering 1080p with his new setup vs his old setup rendering 720p and a 20% decrease if he renders 720p now with this new setup vs the old one.

Looking at, best case scenario, 8 years of development, just do 720p and let someone upscale it using tools, why throw away a net 15% of development time?

L&P has stated that it takes his new setup 20 to 30 minutes rendering a 1080p image. For simplicity, lets put it at 25 minutes for an average of 600 renders. That's 15000 minutes solely rendering, per update, in 1080p.
Could be 12000 minutes if it was in 720p.
That's a 50 hour difference per each update and will probably grow has he keeps growing the nr of renders per version.
Looking at his version numbers, he still has 58 updates to do * 50 hours, that's 3 months of time lost just on rendering 1080p. A full update time.

If there are great tools right now in 2021 to upscale these renders, in a few years they'll be even better. Use those.

Anyways these lost posts won't do much. If he's really planning on releasing this game until its end in 2028-2030, he needs a plan asap and it's in these tiny things that you take a few days here, a chunk of days there and when you notice you're throwing the same amount of content at a faster pace because you optimized all your work.
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if your going by content in sexual variety "which honestly is most people since that is what makes it an adult game"

its about hmm lets see i think two? maybe three vaginal sex scenes with good wife and a bj
and the most out of any other path is i think at most on one jerk off at sophia, few people being handy's and two lesbian make out scenes. For a 5 year old game that ain't much in my humble opinion.

If your going by the story content there is indeed a lot more of and that maybe the only reason i keep playing this game "against my better judgment" but in the end are a lot of good story arcs that fall flat or supposed to show up later game....when that happens no one knows "well hopefully L&P does". I'm lucky that the path i'm into either the L&P or patreon seem to dig as well but that doesn't mean a lot people aren't their bang for their buck.

Been playing this game a long time really hoping it kicks up into high gear but sadly not the case. Seems to be the case for most devs

edit: don't mean to pile on i'm just throwing my two cents in
 
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UndercoverLover said:
Next thing is that version numbers dont mean shit when it comes to projects...
There is no plan to that takes him in a 100 updates to the 1.0 ...

upscaling btw work right now best from 1080p and better from 1440 to 4k and not from 720p as that does not have enough information in the image to give highres results.

Also u make a calculation about render times and make a fuzz about 3 month render time vs... and end date in 7 to 9 whole years... and u tell me u had a company and find this important??

And rendering can be done in batches and at night or at a server farm if one has money....so 600 hundred renders in 3 month

24 hours per day times 7 times 3 makes 2016 hours of render time in 3 month.
if he needs only half an hour per render he could make 4000 renders per update....

render time isnt the issue here

and let me make this clear.... 7 times 4 times 3 are 84 days.... 600 renders divided by 84 are like
7.1 render per day.... which takes him 3,5 hours to render per day.....

Seriously if u dont have a plan how things work in cg at all u shouldnt make big statements of what would be the best way todo this.
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First of all, he could've used a server farm already in these last years and chose not to.

Second of all, from my post:
Anyways these lost posts won't do much. If he's really planning on releasing this game until its end in 2028-2030, he needs a plan asap and it's in these tiny things that you take a few days here, a chunk of days there and when you notice you're throwing the same amount of content at a faster pace because you optimized all your work.

His renders at 720p look better than most dev's renders at 1080p.

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As I stated this was one tiny thing that he could do himself with no extra help and make the rendering part of the development faster. Obviously it doesn't translate to big improvements in development time. What will translate to big improvements is hiring someone to help him out. Speaking of that..

UndercoverLover said:
yeah .. u say ur a rich kid and his follower and u cant even read or remember his goal?

"
96 % erreicht

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this high goal is really achieved someday:
I cancel all my college courses and devote all my time to my passion of (adult) game development!
I'll give my hardware a massive "face-lift", primarily to render faster and switch from 720p to 1080p quality!

"
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1) I don't understand what being a "rich kid" has to do with it but since you talked about his patreon goals, here's one that I remember quite well:
100% complete

I'll quit my side job so I can spend even more time developing the game!
Furthermore, I'll try to hire someone to help me out with the project!
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;)
Enough said.

I won't lose more time arguing with someone that writes like a 15 year old and uses me being a "rich kid" as some sort of counter argument for what I've been discussing in this thread. Go back to the cave.
 
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viper6 said:
First of all, he could've used a server farm already in these last years and chose not to.

Second of all, from my post:
Anyways these lost posts won't do much. If he's really planning on releasing this game until its end in 2028-2030, he needs a plan asap and it's in these tiny things that you take a few days here, a chunk of days there and when you notice you're throwing the same amount of content at a faster pace because you optimized all your work.

His renders at 720p look better than most dev's renders at 1080p.

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As I stated this was one tiny thing that he could do himself with no extra help and make the rendering part of the development faster. Obviously it doesn't translate to big improvements in development time. What will translate to big improvements is hiring someone to help him out. Speaking of that..


1) I don't understand what being a "rich kid" has to do with it but since you talked about his patreon goals, here's one that I remember quite well:


;)
Enough said.

I won't lose more time arguing with someone that writes like a 15 year old and uses me being a "rich kid" as some sort of counter argument for what I've been discussing in this thread. Go back to the cave.
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I told him about the render farm idea last year, and L&P said it wouldn't work for him and left his statement like that with no further explanation. So a Render farm is off the table for him. You can also try to talk to him again about help until you're blue in the face, but that too will most likely not happen since he already made it clear in his statement.

Also; The time for changes should of happen about 2 to 3 years ago, where the game was in its infant stages. This would have allowed him to put the game in a manageable state that one person would have been able to handle with ease, but since we are already this far into the game 3 gameday/5 years (projection) from the halfway point, He could adjust some text like the narration as someone said earlier, but in order for him to make major changes to the text and other parts of the game like the story, I would say he would have to do a full reboot of the game.
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
I told him about the render farm idea last year, and L&P said it wouldn't work for him and left his statement like that with no further explanation. So a Render farm is off the table for him. You can also try to talk to him again about help until you're blue in the face, but that too will most likely not happen since he already made it clear in his statement.

Also; The time for changes should of happen about 2 to 3 years ago, where the game was in its infant stages. This would have allowed him to put the game in a manageable state that one person would have been able to handle with ease, but since we are already this far into the game 3 gameday/5 years (projection) from the halfway point, He could adjust some text like the narration as someone said earlier, but in order for him to make major changes to the text and other parts of the game like the story, I would say he would have to do a full reboot of the game.
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Regarding the render farm, no surprises.
As for development, I don't think anyone needs to handle the development (in terms of renders) of the game itself except L&P but he could benefit a lot from bringing someone with some knowledge in daz and photoshop that would put the next version always on the right track according to L&Ps needs.

His (L&P) development would then consist of grabing all the assets already organized and then do his magic on Daz in the environments that were already 95% done (im sure L&P would do some changes in the end but not a full scenario).
Once scene is over and rendered, edit them in photoshop or teach the assistant what to look for, what presets to use and have the assistant edit the renders.


It's just an assistant, exactly what he said he would look into hiring in that 100% completed patreon goal, no need of major overhaul in the game.

Regarding the dialogue and introduction of new stuff, the code seems simple enough for an experienced dev to come in and make changes easily.

From his patreon page:

I’m planning on having more than 10.000 3D images altogether, as well as some animations at the end of my current project!!!
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He has 8700 already. He is probably going to break the 10k mark in the update after this one.
 
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Anyone else getting an issue whenever the MC's sister talks? Each time it happens I get an error screen. Every. Single. Time. She. Talks.

It's become beyond annoying and I'm only on day two.

EDIT: Forgot to say, it also won't say in the logs what the sister said at all.
 
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I included a screenshot. It keeps saying that each time.

EDIT: I'll include a full traceback (minus my pc's user name)
Full traceback:
File "script.rpyc", line 3854, in script
File "C:\Users\\Desktop\Game Shortcuts\H Games\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.115-pc\GAME FOLDER\renpy\ast.py", line 678, in execute
who = eval_who(self.who, self.who_fast)
File "C:\Users\\Desktop\Game Shortcuts\H Games\A_Wife_And_Mother-0.115-pc\GAME FOLDER\renpy\ast.py", line 576, in eval_who
raise Exception("Sayer '%s' is not defined." % who.encode("utf-8"))
Exception: Sayer 'p' is not defined.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.115 0.115
Sat Mar 27 02:12:48 2021
 
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viper6 said:
First of all, he could've used a server farm already in these last years and chose not to.

Second of all, from my post:
Anyways these lost posts won't do much. If he's really planning on releasing this game until its end in 2028-2030, he needs a plan asap and it's in these tiny things that you take a few days here, a chunk of days there and when you notice you're throwing the same amount of content at a faster pace because you optimized all your work.

His renders at 720p look better than most dev's renders at 1080p.

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As I stated this was one tiny thing that he could do himself with no extra help and make the rendering part of the development faster. Obviously it doesn't translate to big improvements in development time. What will translate to big improvements is hiring someone to help him out. Speaking of that..


1) I don't understand what being a "rich kid" has to do with it but since you talked about his patreon goals, here's one that I remember quite well:


;)
Enough said.

I won't lose more time arguing with someone that writes like a 15 year old and uses me being a "rich kid" as some sort of counter argument for what I've been discussing in this thread. Go back to the cave.
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I think youre some psychward inmate that sees his 2 patronages as the big investments hes doing in startups.

Rich people dont need to go on pirate boards to brag about their money and made up business knowledge and have better things todo in life than to worry about progress of some porn game that has development issues.

And as i have already sufficiently proven you dont know jackshit about software development or rendering.
 
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Want a ride, baby? (Aiden event)
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Looks like I could be right on the next task involving clothing and I will stick my neck out and say its another dress,maybe even a revealing/transparent dress.
As for going for a ride with Aiden, I doubt it,unless he has another crash helmet hidden someplace.
 
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KillJoys said:
Looks like I could be right on the next task involving clothing and I will stick my neck out and say its another dress,maybe even a revealing/transparent dress.
As for going for a ride with Aiden, I doubt it,unless he has another crash helmet hidden someplace.
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We will know what's inside the bag in the new teaser, seems like a dress though.
 
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sept0342 said:
We will know what's inside the bag in the new teaser, seems like a dress though.
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If it is a dress,like I have always said,it could be for the 4th task so what does the 3rd task involve?
Going for a ride with Aiden,doubtful.
Public flashing?
 
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