- Thread starter CobraSGT
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L&P has said that there will be only one more teaser in his last message. Which will be of Leah.new preview when??
So if we are getting only 1 teaser then it would be better if we get it later. Like around 50-60%
- Apr 18, 2021
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Well, most people here just enjoy in good story. But, what do you expect from this game? Maybe some quick bang, to jerk off? Really? In a world with a millions of porn sites .... in a world where you can easily get real thing with a little help of Tinder ... you really need sex in a game to jerk off? Oh poor boy, do you realize how pathetic that sounds.
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A good story doesn't have to take 20+ years to tell either.
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- Sep 23, 2020
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What does the story have to do with the development pace. It is L&P who is on the slower side and his story is massive. And anything that is done by a single person with emphasis to quality takes it's time.
1.5 hrs of a Disney movie takes around 5 years to make even with a 100 animators. Anime generally having 12 episodes ( 4 hours ) generally take 10 months to one year in production, sometimes even that is not enough. Some extremely mesmerizing scenes which last only 2-3 minutes take 3-4 months to make. A manga chapter not containing more than 10-15 minutes of reading time takes 1 month, some with higher quality art take 2-3 months for 10-15 minutes of content.
The story itself can be told in very less time if done through text or shot with real people, when it has to be drawn or animated it takes time to get all the details right. So good storys can take a little extra time but the real time taker is the length of the story, the medium chosen to narrate it,the number of people behind it and the quality at the which the product is intended to be delivered.
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Hi, How many saves do I need to play each paths . There is blackmails, a boarding school, side works and other choices. I don't know how to start it and choose the most interesting paths. Sorry for bad english.
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First of all, this isn't a movie or animation, and to compare this to a film is like comparing apples and oranges. I never said it doesn't take time; I said again, "A good story doesn't have to take 20+ years to tell either." Second, A good story doesn't need complex storylines either. A direct, simplistic approach can work just as well. Other VN novels are good at the core and are linear, which don't branch out into 30+ different paths. He could have written the story based on six or seven characters and most likely achieved his results at a quicker pace.
If you read some of his Patreon comments, most want to see the core characters with Sophia more than anything else, Dylan, Ellie, Patricia, and Sam, plus some outside characters like Aiden. If he focuses on them more instead of having 90+ characters, I think he would achieve more significant progress with less, and his Patreon Member count would be higher than it is now.
He could have done this in less time if he didn't have, me being facetious here, 30+ routes with some of the routes having the same themes as others.
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There's no real answer to that, since it depends on what you find interesting. To play all the scenes I think most have about 6 or so. But of saves for the "interesting scenes" some have dozens of saves, I only have one.
My advice would just be to play the Maximum Filthy route to see what appeals to you, but if a different choice looks interesting, start a different save.
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Best walkthrough I've seen for the Maximum Filthy route with the major scenes is this one by Mamonetti. That will get you most of the major scenes barring the sex scenes with Liam (the husband), and a couple of minor scenes on the Dylan route.
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My comment emphasised on the fact that anything of art require such manual attention to work takes time. The mediums are different, the effort here isn't. Be it anime, animated movies or manga or comics.
And just like visual novels with 5-6 Characters are good, VN novel with 20 characters can also be good and definitely way better if done right. This very thing would be celebrated because of a huge range of fetishes only if L&P could do 7000 renders a year instead of barely getting near 1800.
And what an exaggeration it is to call 90+ characters. Characters which have scenes are limited to only these
Nathalie, Aiden, Liam, Dylan, Alyssa, Sam Ellie, Julia, Morello Larry, Patricia, Amber,
Tutoring Job, Bennett, Janitor, Nursing Home, Zac, Vicky Deshawn, Neil, Jennifer,
Cathy, Principal, Movers, Thugs, Emma
Total - 25.
out of which Alyssa is hardly getting anything.
Morello's storyline isn't coming back for a while
Amber one or two scenes a week
Bennett Storyline has been cut short and currently only has 82 renders. Janitor is another with only 80 renders and no event in sight.
Neil is forgetten, Principal has no role, Movers aren't coming back till the end just like the Thugs.
Liam doesn't seem to have a seen for the next few days, even if he did no one here would be excited for it. So it doesn't matter.
Jennifer doesn't have route either. It is just a event or two.
So just tell me where are your 90+ characters, if you count 5 charcters from the 2nd job it makes no sense since we will only get one scene from it. Similar 3 movers make no difference, since whenever they have a scene it will be together. Same goes for the thugs. And it is downright non sensical to count all the students in Sophia's class in characters, they are just filling space or the gym Instructor,. Dylan's martial arts instructor who is likely to never have a scene. Logan and his friends too shouldn't be counted separately because they are just part of Ellie Sophia route. They don't have exclusive scenes. Whenever Sophia Ellie have their scene they will just be a part of it.
There are primarily only Pat, Ellie, Dylan Sam, Aiden, 2 jobs, Nathalie, Vicky, Alyssa, Zac, Liam. Not a huge number of main stay storylines. Rest of the characters have a once in blue a moon appearance and some might never even show up again
A streamlined linear game would be boring as hell with Sophia constantly pushing herself every next scene with the same 4-5 Characters, making it look like just a monotonous, run of the mill sex fest game in a span of 3-4 PD And the scenes will just look forced as there is nothing to show besides these same 5 people.
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There's a lot of games where I just hammer on the space bar to see some titties, but once I realized this one was going to be a ridiculously slow burn, I started to enjoy it more. Variety is the spice of life!
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I have three saves that seem to cover all possible events on the filthy path. I might have made a minor manipulation around the variables on the way, don't remember exactly. I know for sure I paired boarding school with one side job, and no boarding school with the other. Be creative
P.S. Your English is fine, no need to be sorry.
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Progress Report Ver. 0.170.
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Progress Report Ver. 0.170.
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Great work.Not as fancy as Apollodore's one but this is what I managed to save and keep up-to-date here
Day Day of the week PD Time of the day Release Event 20 Friday 13 Morning v0.155 Literature lesson (Aiden's 4th task) School break (bonus scene) Don Morello (optional) Noon v0.160 Dylan/Ellie Part 1 + Part 2 v0.161 Aiden's Meeting v0.165 Dylan keeps Amber company while waiting for Sam v0.170 2nd side job 3rd day (Tutoring Job) Afternoon update 5 Sophia/Sam update 6 Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan) Evening update 7 Sophia/Dylan Part 1 update 8 Sophia/Dylan Part 2 update 9 Dylan/Ellie/Christine update 10 Dylan/Emma + rest 21 Saturday 14 Morning Sophia/Ellie (Very short) Sophia/Sam (Very short) Sophia/Ellie Noon 1st side job OR: 2nd side Job Sophia/Dylan Afternoon Sophia/Dylan Evening Sophia/Dylan Meeting "museum college guys"
These are intels for the other days, either from discussions with L&P that have been shared or future events that are mentioned or inferred from the story.
The "within" of the "sex scene within X playable days" has to be counted from PD 12 when the information was given.
PD 15 - Day 22 - Sunday
[1st lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 3 playable days]
- ranch event with Patricia at her friend Zoey place, probably all day long. Sophia will get the a phone call from Patricia on Saturday to invite her if she spent the day with Alyssa instead of going to Yoga on PD 11.
PD 16 - Day 23 - Monday
[1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
- there are "several Ellie's events spread out over the day" (aka Ellie's day) and the return of the sauna guys Tyler and Logan
- Dylan/Ellie storyline is supposed to end here
- She usually does not teach on Mondays,
but after what happened in v0.161 she will meet Aiden and they are going to have a "have a 'private chat' on Monday at school" .but it seems that the principal Johnson will call her in as substitute teacher. So there could be another task.- "Something definitely really "wild" what is not with the husband [...] and it will be something no one will definitely expect at the moment!" as per L&P old quote
PD 17 - Day 24 - Tuesday
[3rd big lesbian sex(ual) scene with an important character: Within the next 5 playable days]
PD 18 - Day 25 - Wednesday
- 2 Ellie's events
- She is teaching on Tuesdays and probably there will be the first sport lesson if the school gym is ready (after the "usual" Literature class)
- 2nd optional solution for Aiden (less comfortable than Morello)
- Alyssa will be back and they are likely to meet at soccer practice ("I think Tuesday next week when our boys have soccer practice will be the earliest we can see each other again.")
- Biology class, likely another Aiden's task
- The 1st chance to get rid of Bennett (source)
- [unconfirmed/unreliable] Around this time or the next days the side jobs might end but there could be an option to continue them later on. More recent intel says the 1st job could be there till the end of the game.
PD 19 - Day 26 - Thursday
[4th lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 7 playable days]
- 2 Ellie's events
PD 20 - Day 27 - Friday
[...]
- Literature class, likely another Aiden's task
PD 24 - Day 31 - Tuesday
- Deadline for Mr. Bennett's proposal
After what Mr.Gamer__ shared:
I guess that the "sex scene WITH an important character", the "with" is not to be intended as "Sophia with.." but as "a sex scene involving an important character", where the important character is one of the32 MCs, Sophia and Dylan, and Ellie.
We are walking on a thin line between the language barrier on one side and mastering the art of being willingly vague and ambiguous on the other.
I can give some tips for the schedule.
In the wild scene of PD 16 you can add that is a very hot and big hetero scene. One user posted time ago
About that scene I asked if there will be penetration and LP answered "maybe"
About Aiden tasks on PD16 and PD 17 there will be one each day. It's what I urderstood to a question that I made to LP. Sometimes he can be a bit cryptic in his answers.
We return to the original idea that the comfortable exit for Aiden will be on PD18.
LP has said: "The first solution was already in the morning of this day with asking Don Morello for help. The next will be in around 5 game days."
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There are enough games for every taste on F95 to melt your balls forever in an endless orgasm. W&M was created in order to fully immerse the gamer in the game, as if these people really exist. The effect of full immersion in the life of Sophie's family. Somewhere in the back of your brain, sometimes flashes the thought: - How is Sophie, her children? During this time, a vast fan community has been created, which already influences the author with a wonderful series of comics from ST9-Pol, many other sketches, thoughts and wishes. This is already a whole world where fantasy has merged with reality.
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All this talk of too many characters, or a story that's too slow, just highlights the no-win scenario for fans of this game. What makes AWAM special (aside from the great art) is that it's a layered story. Too many games only focus in on the main/core characters, and that gets old really quickly. On paper, I think there's good sense behind how the story is paced because, at its best, it provides for a logical progression of Sophia's corruption. I think all of us can agree that we like that her corruption has been a gradual process. And part of that process is that she interacts with a wide cast of characters who all have their role to play in her corruption. It isn't just the same two characters, scene after scene, day after day, update after update. There's a real attempt to make her progress feel organic.
The real problem, the original sin, is that this game is simply too ambitious for one person. Even with diligent planning (which we know he doesn't do), this game cannot be completed in a reasonable time frame. Both the story, and its development, are too slow. Each update takes too long and advances the plot too little to really feel satisfying. But, if he were to cut content, and focus exclusively on the main characters, the game would lose a good deal of what makes it attractive. Sure, in the short-term I think a lot of people would be happy, and he may even make more money, but I think that approach would undermine what makes the game special.
People are tired of the slow burn, the constant delays to development, and the prospect of another decade before there's actual sex. Outside of building a mid-size team to develop the game alongside him, the only solution that would result in faster progress would be to cut content and characters. And while I do agree that cutting some characters/content could improve the game, I don't think it would be too long before you would make cuts that would detract from the game.
The long and short of it is that fans of AWAM are in a no-win situation because the game was not properly scaled to what one person can create in a reasonable timeframe.
The real problem, the original sin, is that this game is simply too ambitious for one person. Even with diligent planning (which we know he doesn't do), this game cannot be completed in a reasonable time frame. Both the story, and its development, are too slow. Each update takes too long and advances the plot too little to really feel satisfying. But, if he were to cut content, and focus exclusively on the main characters, the game would lose a good deal of what makes it attractive. Sure, in the short-term I think a lot of people would be happy, and he may even make more money, but I think that approach would undermine what makes the game special.
People are tired of the slow burn, the constant delays to development, and the prospect of another decade before there's actual sex. Outside of building a mid-size team to develop the game alongside him, the only solution that would result in faster progress would be to cut content and characters. And while I do agree that cutting some characters/content could improve the game, I don't think it would be too long before you would make cuts that would detract from the game.
The long and short of it is that fans of AWAM are in a no-win situation because the game was not properly scaled to what one person can create in a reasonable timeframe.