Balrog

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Nor do I ever recall implying that a change in art style would render the characters unrecognizable, and I don't know of anyone making such complaints either. In fact I clearly stated the opposite and they're all quite distinguishable regardless of the general design so long as the character's base physical traits remain, which they clearly do. I was merely commenting on how such a drastic change in art style can be jarring since the game's art has so closely resembled the original show's up until the new redux update, so it is perfectly understandable for people to say they don't like the change in character art and design. If some people actually prefer they new art style, that's fine too. But people shouldn't just dismiss the opinions of those who like the old style more, and they shouldn't put words in someone else's mouth either.
I'm not putting words into your mouth, you're the one who responded to me after I said to someone who did straight up say they were that I disagreed / didn't understand the point.

Unless you're Pepe's sock account, I quite literaly wasn't talking to you and explained to you my problem with his point when you missunderstood me and responded with something unrelated.
 

2lazy2name

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I'm not putting words into your mouth, you're the one who responded to me after I said to someone who did straight up say they were that I disagreed / didn't understand the point.

Unless you're Pepe's sock account, I quite literaly wasn't talking to you and explained to you my problem with his point when you missunderstood me and responded with something unrelated.
Fair enough, though I hope you can understand my thinking that you did think I had that opinion, as your post was a quote/response to my own post. Thus as far as I could tell, I *was* the person you were talking to (the most, at least).
And just for the record, I am not in fact Pepe's sock account, nor do I have any sort of association with them.
 

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Not sure if I follow your point cause all the characters still look pretty distinctly themself to me in all the art you qualified as 'bad'. Like I still easily recognise Maddie and Paulina so far.
Forgot to mention one thing, that is of course also important to recognize someone and that is the "signature" clothes and hairstyle.
In the shared pictures the hair & the outfit which is common in the original series was always present that will probably be the reason why you can still recognize the characters despite the anime look.
If that is also omitted, it will be much harder to understand what the artist is pointing to.
So it is quite understandable that the more parameters of the original art the parody copies, the easier it is to immediately get what it is about especially when it comes to the appearance, because this catches your eye.
 

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TL;DR:

First version of amity park captured the style from the original animated serie and that would actually make the game more immersive and appealable for whoever watched the serie.

Now this redux version took away that factor by reworking the characters to look nothing close to the original series and instead they look either too anime-ish or totally not something people was looking for to play with after the update announcement.

Don't get me wrong, this new artstyle looks ok and is not ugly at all! is just that they took away that factor of seeing the characters looking like in the TV series which kills off the mood when playing this

Edit: A good game example its this one called Ben X Slave Quest see how the devs working on this captured the essence of the art making it look a like to the TV show. this is the concept people will look for!

Or even Something Unlimited which totally resembles to the DC superheroes from Young Justice! so yeah if they want to move forward on this redux version its their choice, but in my honest opinion is not a game i wont be looking forward to have interest due the changes are not that good
 
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Genuine question but, seeing the comments here made me think... Why not just give the players the option to choose old art/new art in the redux? (Kinda like what Legend Of Queen Opala Origins did) Please correct me if what I said is not possible lol.
 

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Genuine question but, seeing the comments here made me think... Why not just give the players the option to choose old art/new art in the redux? (Kinda like what Legend Of Queen Opala Origins did) Please correct me if what I said is not possible lol.
This seems to be a good solution: my compliments! there is no way in heaven or hell everyone can be satisfied with a game project this big, but give people the option to choose and you get mighty close.
 

sexypeanut

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Genuine question but, seeing the comments here made me think... Why not just give the players the option to choose old art/new art in the redux? (Kinda like what Legend Of Queen Opala Origins did) Please correct me if what I said is not possible lol.
The problem with that solution is that there won't be any 'old-style' art from ep. 8 and beyond. Everything after redux will be with the new art.
 

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The problem with that solution is that there won't be any 'old-style' art from ep. 8 and beyond. Everything after redux will be with the new art.
And with that you essentially double the work of the artist, if they sould go that route. So I even if I would prefer that solution, making to art versions of the game seems impossible.

Does someone have maybe pictures of the other girls with the new art style? I woul like to see all of them, if possible.
But I'm torn, like the others said the art style is nice in it's own, but the cartoon style of the show is lost with it.
 
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sorry to basically parrot myself but im goin to use your comment as a kinda 'official statment' for myself on it, not gonna try speakin for everyone but anyone can feel free to like/heart my comment if ive summed up your thoughts well enough as well to show you agree with me or leave a sad face/facepalm on my comment if you disagree.

again sorry if im bein a broken record

a parody, at least in my opinion, is best when the art style, character/world design, and writing is as close as it can be to how the series youre parodying can be because, at least in my case, like it should feel like you could believe it would be something right out of an alternate timeline in the actual series...you know if it werent a kid show in this case, if that makes sense. im not playin a parody for mindless fap material im playin it to immerse myself in a porn game based on something i love...and to fap to it of course.

the issue here is the art before was fairly different from the show, even goin as far as replacing poor sams perky pyramid tits with 'normal' ones, but despite that it was still pretty close to the show. the character designs where still accurate and the art style close enough to get by as a "well as guess this is as close as itll get with a parody but at least its close" but this new style doesnt resemble the shows art style at all, as someones pointed out before its like some anime style, and that just doesnt work here cause of how different it is to the shows style, at least in my opinion it doesnt. not to mention based on the teaser of paulina the characters designs are barely recognizable as themselves which, in my opinion, takes a lot away from the immersion and experience.

ill also remention that i believe the style shouldnt have been changed here and instead should have been saved for the next project for a series that already has a style similar or better a completely original game so the art can draw the audience itself and not have the draw back of bringing hate cause its too different from the source like would happen with most parodies using it

tldr: while the art style before wasnt the same as the show it was 'close enough' but the new art style is way too different and doesnt feel like its related to the show at all and the character design changes make them basely recognizable anymore and this new srt style and character design style should have been saved for a project that would better fit it in my opinion

as a side note ive seen arguments made that "the shows style isnt good for porn cause its not hot" and 1. thats just untrue, ive seen plenty examples to prove the shows style can be hot and 2. in my opinion a 'good' parody uses the series style and makes minimal adjustments to make it hot, like said examples ive seen, some of which have been posted here even, and if someone is actually a fan of the series and lookin for a porn game its my strong belief that they would like the tweaked show style just as much if not more then the 'sexified' anime version the new art style looks like

thats more or less my statement on it, though im terrible at explanations so i hope i didnt just make it confusing or say somethin wrong and convey it in a way i didnt intend to
^ This sums up basically everything I feel. It should be as close to the show it parodies as possible in artwork. The only thing I disagree with is the triangle tits. Never liked that about the show but guess they did it to show the high school girls didn't have big tits (like Maddie). Also, I wouldn't expect them to make triangle tits during hentai scenes cause that would just be unnatural. But when it comes to all aspects of face, animation, colors, etc. then it should be like the show which it closely was. I don't know how to describe what's wrong with the new Paulina look except that her face and all doesn't look like in the show yet it did in the previous versions of the game.

For more examples of really good parody art/animation that resembles the shows, just look to Four Elements Trainer, Re:Hero, Jikage Rising, Kunoichi Trainer, Overlord H, 18Titans, and even EroEro No Mi (although the colors aren't bright or something but the girls do look like the One Piece girls). Those did it the same way Amity Park did in previous builds, which is what I think it should have stayed. Of course, that's my opinion.
 

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It's pretty simple.
Cartoon characters have to stay cartoonish sure you can give them bigger boobs, booty, longer legs or provocative clothes if your goal is to make them sexier but why change what makes the characters distinctive, the damn face namely, especially if the point of the game is to be a parody of Danny Phantom.
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Was completely unnecessary to hire someone who can't duplicate the art of the show, not even close.

Imagine DarkCookie wouldn't draw Summertime Saga anymore but instead someone replaced his drawings with something that looks off.

Here is a portfolio of different artists who made Maddie sexier (but she still looks like the mother of the protagonist) that's how the redux should be.
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The Anime Version Look's Pretty Good (That Might Be Because I Am A Weeb)

But I Will Definately Agree With You,
Cartoonish Character's Are More Sexier Than The Anime Version...!!!!:giggle::giggle::giggle:

Just Look At These Ass And Pussies,
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^It should be as close to the show it parodies as possible in artwork. The only thing I disagree with is the triangle tits. Never liked that about the show but guess they did it to show the high school girls didn't have big tits (like Maddie). Also, I wouldn't expect them to make triangle tits during hentai scenes cause that would just be unnatural. But when it comes to all aspects of face, animation, colors, etc. then it should be like the show which it closely was. I don't know how to describe what's wrong with the new Paulina look except that her face and all doesn't look like in the show yet it did in the previous versions of the game.
DP cast.jpg

DP was most likely created using Adobe Flash or Toon Boom instead of any kind of hand drawn artwork. It looks like Paula was drawn using a spline tool and oval tools for the eyes. The triangle tits were done because it was quick and cheap. There are a lot of straight lines in DP characters, again I'm guessing for cost.
 

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DP was most likely created using Adobe Flash or Toon Boom instead of any kind of hand drawn artwork. It looks like Paula was drawn using a spline tool and oval tools for the eyes. The triangle tits were done because it was quick and cheap. There are a lot of straight lines in DP characters, again I'm guessing for cost.
Yeah, I prefer the current art of the game over the original art of the cartoon, as fun as the show was, sexy it was not. :whistle:
 
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Also, I wouldn't expect them to make triangle tits during hentai scenes cause that would just be unnatural.
google small pointy tits, a lot of them do have a triangular shape, it is natural especially for girls who are still growing/late bloomers like you could expect for high school girls. i know in the show the pyramid tits were to keep art simple but sam always had small breasts so even messing with the designs to make them 'sexier' or 'more realistic' it still would have fit more for same to keep the pointy tits, thats why i single her out and didnt complain about it with characters like paulina cause with her more 'normal' rounded breasts just make sense but not for sam hence why i comment about her specifically
 

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google small pointy tits, a lot of them do have a triangular shape, it is natural especially for girls who are still growing/late bloomers like you could expect for high school girls. i know in the show the pyramid tits were to keep art simple but sam always had small breasts so even messing with the designs to make them 'sexier' or 'more realistic' it still would have fit more for same to keep the pointy tits, thats why i single her out and didnt complain about it with characters like paulina cause with her more 'normal' rounded breasts just make sense but not for sam hence why i comment about her specifically
Yeah, but these are not Jr. High students like the show, they are 18+ in this world. Danny and his friends were 14 in the show, it only makes sense to make them more developed.
 
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Yeah, but these are not Jr. High students like the show, they are 18+ in this world. Danny and his friends were 14 in the show, it only makes sense to make them more developed.
their the same characters except with a 18+ slapped on for patreon reasons, but even not taking that into account plenty of full grown adults have it too so theres still a justification for a couple girls to have them such as sam who would unless she had a very specific growth spurt
 

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their the same characters except with a 18+ slapped on for patreon reasons, but even not taking that into account plenty of full grown adults have it too so theres still a justification for a couple girls to have them such as sam who would unless she had a very specific growth spurt
Yes, the same characters ...four years older.

Four years is a hell of a long time to have a growth spurt, and I would MUCH rather think about them as being actually 18 in this world, and things are happening 4 years later than in the show, than to think we are just "pretending" to get around the age restrictions. I greatly appreciate the fact that they do not look almost prepubescent. I really don't want to play something like that, it is one of the things I always hated about the Japanese VNs, the mandatory loli character.

Sure, they could be someone who didn't develop much, it does happen a lot, but that wasn't how they envisioned them being 4 years older here...
 
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