Rutonat

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I know it's easy to either forget or not care, but remember one thing making a narrative base game takes : creativity.
It's easy to say the dev only works on Nea because he might have a fetish for her and the game is thus boring, but it kinda sounds like you've never done creative writing before.

What to tell you it's not simply that the dev had more inspiration for Nea so far and thus, instead of delivering a half-assed update for every girl that would push you guys to spit on the quality, they decided to focus on the parts they had a clear vision and inspiration for, to get it out of the way ?

Also, as far as some people might despise "the trans trend", the intensity of Nea's storyline has actually a lot of potential for the MC's own character development. I mean, didn't you noticed the MC wasn't a horndog ready to fuck anything and anyone with a pulse ?

Even though I find he constant "I can't be attracted to Nea, she's not a girl, but she's a girl, but not really, but she is, but I'm not gay ?" quite infuriating (seriously the dude fights for her to be recognized as a woman and yet is the first to have a mental breakdown about the fact he sees her as an actual woman despite her transition not being fully done ?), it's not that hard to see that it's triggering quite the eye opening in him. It would definitely not be surprising that such improvement in open mindness (is that a word ?) would have influence on other routes that have, arguably, way more of an "open mind requirement" (like fucking his own sisters and probably mom at some point).

So is it infuriating that your favorite girls aren't the ones getting Nea's treatment ? Yeah, most likely, and I can understand that.
Is it something to blame the dev for, of get mad about ? I don't think so.
If you don't like Nea for her being trans, that's your right. If you don't like her for how she is, that's alright as well. Just be carefull not to imply she's stealing the focus away from "more interesting girls". Everyone has different tastes.
I, for one, really love Nea and her story. I don't think she should be the main focus, but so far, I can see how her story could serve the others ones from how it influences the MC to grow his views.


Also, please either avoid spoilers for PL or put them in actual spoilers. I haven't finished the game yet, and I would have liked to avoid those...
 
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Maybe the error happened because both events tried to trigger at the same time when you entered the park. I bet it wouldn't throw an error if you tried going there on a different day since the Emily thing is random you probably just have to enter there when Emily isn't there.
No. You have to go to the Park at a specific time of day. It's not random, it's part of Nea's quest line. I did try a different day, I slept for days to try every day. The only thing that fixed it was editing with console. It's odd that a value for Emily not being set affects Nea's questline and causes the error.
 

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Part of the reason for the lack of character development is due to it being a sandbox style game. Because everything is broken down to a memory at select locations, the development of an overarching story is slow. The oldest of the sisters has been pouting on her bed for multiple updates now because only a few characters can be updated per version. Nea's story is really the only one that has moved forward, everything else has been more event based. Hopefully now that Nea's story appears to have reached a major checkpoint, the focus will be on some of the other characters.
Actually, because of the path that I have taken with Nea, any update that includes her as the main content is going to be very short to me. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like it's going to be.

I know it's easy to either forget or not care, but remember one thing making a narrative base game takes : creativity.
It's easy to say the dev only works on Nea because he might have a fetish for her and the game is thus boring, but it kinda sounds like you've never done creative writing before.

What to tell you it's not simply that the dev had more inspiration for Nea so far and thus, instead of delivering a half-assed update for every girl that would push you guys to spit on the quality, they decided to focus on the parts they had a clear vision and inspiration for, to get it out of the way ?

Also, as far as some people might despise "the trans trend", the intensity of Nea's storyline has actually a lot of potential for the MC's own character development. I mean, didn't you noticed the MC wasn't a horndog ready to fuck anything and anyone with a pulse ?

Even though I find he constant "I can't be attracted to Nea, she's not a girl, but she's a girl, but not really, but she is, but I'm not gay ?" quite infuriating (seriously the dude fights for her to be recognized as a woman and yet is the first to have a mental breakdown about the fact he sees her as an actual woman despite her transition not being fully done ?), it's not that hard to see that it's triggering quite the eye opening in him. It would definitely not be surprising that such improvement in open mindness (is that a word ?) would have influence on other routes that have, arguably, way more of an "open mind requirement" (like fucking his own sisters and probably mom at some point).

So is it infuriating that your favorite girls aren't the ones getting Nea's treatment ? Yeah, most likely, and I can understand that.
Is it something to blame the dev for, of get mad about ? I don't think so.
If you don't like Nea for her being trans, that's your right. If you don't like her for how she is, that's alright as well. Just be carefull not to imply she's stealing the focus away from "more interesting girls". Everyone has different tastes.
I, for one, really love Nea and her story. I don't think she should be the main focus, but so far, I can see how her story could serve the others ones from how it influences the MC to grow his views.


Also, please either avoid spoilers for PL or put them in actual spoilers. I haven't finished the game yet, and I would have liked to avoid those...
I liked Nea's story. But since I don't want the MC to have a romance with her, it seems that the content with her has drastically ended. Not very nice, really.
 
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I liked Nea's story. But since I don't want the MC to have a romance with her, it seems that the content with her has drastically ended. Not very nice, really.
What I can tell you without spoiler is that, to the point I'm at, there's no real romance yet. Lots of support and Nea clearly has a crush on the MC (I mean, duh) but he himself has not even passed his mental block.

Though, I have yet to manage to finish what's in the game so far, since I can't seem to trigger any of the three girls I haven't finished... For some reason, doesn't mater the day or time of day, or even location, none of the three seems to want to trigger.
 
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My guess is that you didn't put the patch. Or not correctly.
I tried from both sources ( Uncensor Patch: - ) and have same blackscreen...

How to put the patch correctly?
 
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Actually, because of the path that I have taken with Nea, any update that includes her as the main content is going to be very short to me. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like it's going to be.



I liked Nea's story. But since I don't want the MC to have a romance with her, it seems that the content with her has drastically ended. Not very nice, really.
and in a very drastic way too
 
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What I can tell you without spoiler is that, to the point I'm at, there's no real romance yet. Lots of support and Nea clearly has a crush on the MC (I mean, duh) but he himself has not even passed his mental block.

Though, I have yet to manage to finish what's in the game so far, since I can't seem to trigger any of the three girls I haven't finished... For some reason, doesn't mater the day or time of day, or even location, none of the three seems to want to trigger.
Well, I have finished this last update and I think it's best to let you find out what happens. In case you want to know a little, it's a bit of a spoiler, but not much: If you want romance with Nea, things are going well, if you don't want romance with Nea, things aren't going so well especially for Nea.
 

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Well, I have finished this last update and I think it's best to let you find out what happens. In case you want to know a little, it's a bit of a spoiler, but not much: If you want romance with Nea, things are going well, if you don't want romance with Nea, things aren't going so well especially for Nea.
Yeah the term "look out below" comes to mind :(
 
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I tried from both sources ( Uncensor Patch: - ) and have same blackscreen...

How to put the patch correctly?
The image is like this, you have nothing wrong with the game.
 

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is there any futa/trap/trans on male content?
As far as I have come, there was no sex between the trans LI (Nea) and the MC. I don't know if something like this happens in the last scene on the romance route (I think there is something, but I'm not sure)
 
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I know it's easy to either forget or not care, but remember one thing making a narrative base game takes : creativity.
It's easy to say the dev only works on Nea because he might have a fetish for her and the game is thus boring, but it kinda sounds like you've never done creative writing before.

What to tell you it's not simply that the dev had more inspiration for Nea so far and thus, instead of delivering a half-assed update for every girl that would push you guys to spit on the quality, they decided to focus on the parts they had a clear vision and inspiration for, to get it out of the way ?

Also, as far as some people might despise "the trans trend", the intensity of Nea's storyline has actually a lot of potential for the MC's own character development. I mean, didn't you noticed the MC wasn't a horndog ready to fuck anything and anyone with a pulse ?

Even though I find he constant "I can't be attracted to Nea, she's not a girl, but she's a girl, but not really, but she is, but I'm not gay ?" quite infuriating (seriously the dude fights for her to be recognized as a woman and yet is the first to have a mental breakdown about the fact he sees her as an actual woman despite her transition not being fully done ?), it's not that hard to see that it's triggering quite the eye opening in him. It would definitely not be surprising that such improvement in open mindness (is that a word ?) would have influence on other routes that have, arguably, way more of an "open mind requirement" (like fucking his own sisters and probably mom at some point).

So is it infuriating that your favorite girls aren't the ones getting Nea's treatment ? Yeah, most likely, and I can understand that.
Is it something to blame the dev for, of get mad about ? I don't think so.
If you don't like Nea for her being trans, that's your right. If you don't like her for how she is, that's alright as well. Just be carefull not to imply she's stealing the focus away from "more interesting girls". Everyone has different tastes.
I, for one, really love Nea and her story. I don't think she should be the main focus, but so far, I can see how her story could serve the others ones from how it influences the MC to grow his views.


Also, please either avoid spoilers for PL or put them in actual spoilers. I haven't finished the game yet, and I would have liked to avoid those...
Oh its very much a dev issue. If his only inspiration is trans character really then why mass add in the others and leave them on backburner for update after update? As i said theyre placeholders to appease certain kinks and very little else at the moment for all the potential this offers. Like i said the script is utterly meh at best with all his "inspiration" on his obsession with a single trans character which panders to a minority, a vocal big spending one but minority never the less. The rest are hollow and walking tropes at this point with a mega horny but somehow utterly naive clingy little sister, a cuckqueen MILF harem promoter, the tsundere noody older sister secretely in love with him, the dom professional but sub persona character etc. If the characters are all that underwhelming how is it NOT the devs fault... they are mediocre compared to his past efforts. They might well get better with development (he has past credits we hold his standards highly to) but yeah if this is what were getting im happy for him to go back to PL for a bit which based on comments annoyed a few folk.

Even then regarding Nea if im bluntly honest it was scripted to the moon and back very early on too - nothing new to see here. I saw it and thought "Oh its a Trans hes got the hot for, the trans will 100% have a penis because thats original (no trans character have ever transitioned in any of these games ive noticed lol), she is getting bullied but MC will stick neck out for her, theyll fall in love, itll be a conflicted love, people wont approve but theyll live happily ever after and the trans character will fully endore him fucking everyone else so long as he promises to always love her too including the girl who making her life a living hell at school". Not all has come to fruition but i dont think im wrong in anything yet to transpire.

Nothing ive seen has been "inspriational" or indeed unpredicted so far and said bullies have been neutered with almost staggering abandon and pace to not get in the way of his number one live story in a game which is meant to be a harem with more than one love interest. The one we most fuck isnt even considered a main love interest and even listed as a side character as i recall... he just has her for the literal only hereto fucking scenes to keep the moolah coming whilst he obsesses over his Trans love story. We did get sucked off by a bunny boiler character who had a thing for being pissed on and didnt give a fuck who watched (she interested me at least because that character will be unpredictable) but weve not seen her since either and she doesnt even have a character profile so dont know if she will be back or not. The game is bare minimum effort for most of the characters even this many updates in and yes thats a dev issue. No two ways about it.
 

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I'll agree with others that in my opinion PL was the superior game. Apartment 69 is Luxee taking more chances and going more with what interests them than they initially could with PL. Things did change later in the game as they cared less about Patreon and their rules. They did want to add a trans character to PL some time ago, but they put it to a vote, and it got voted down by a 2-1 margin I think. But that was probably two years ago.

I sincerely hope that the new scene for Jenna in PL is when she loses her virginity. As it stands, I've probably gotten more orgasms from the two renders devoted to it in the last update than everything in A69 combined. I often turn to firing up that game and that scene when an A69 update like the last leaves me feeling kind of "meh" about the game, or just doesn't take things far enough with the 3-4 characters I care about for it to be interesting to me. But incest is my favorite kink, and PL played to that very strongly, while in A69 it's just one of many kinks presented. The kinks unique to A69 aren't really my thing, but obviously not every game has to be about what I want.
 
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