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myst0501

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Does anybody know what the trigger is that gives the alternate scenes at the car dealers?
First play of book two - the manager turned down the loan for Roberts car.
Second play (from the same book one save) the loan was approved and Robert drove off in the orange car - both Kindra and Zelda mentioned this in conversation later.
I can't think of any choices I made that were different, except for a "firm" rather than "empathic" choice when Artemis made a mess in the kitchen.
It depends on if you fully paid for the pizza back in the first chapter. If you do fully pay for it, Kindra gives you a card with a lower credit limit. If you go halfsies, she gives you a card with a higher limit and you can then afford to purchase two cars instead of one.
 

catnapper

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It depends on if you fully paid for the pizza back in the first chapter. If you do fully pay for it, Kindra gives you a card with a lower credit limit. If you go halfsies, she gives you a card with a higher limit and you can then afford to purchase two cars instead of one.
I don't think that can be it - both book 2 plays were from the SAME book 1 save.
Also Kindra says that the bank phoned her to authorise the loan.
 

myst0501

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I don't think that can be it - both book 2 plays were from the SAME book 1 save.
Also Kindra says that the bank phoned her to authorise the loan.
I can't speak to what save file you used, but the variable 'ch1_pizzawholetab' is what is used to determine what scene you get at the dealership.

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I played again to see other paths and I think Gemma is the real daughter of McCreed but Iniyah is an android, they are teaching her almost like Artemis.
  • When they play chess, Iniyah won the game then Gemma says game is yours to her mother. She does not congratulate her opponent, instead she goes for the maker.
  • Kindra only aware of 1 daughter from their childhood.
  • They call to fencing lesson, accomplished mission or something.
  • Iniyah also looks exact copy of Gemma(vice versa is also correct), just blonde.
If my assumption is correct, Artemis and Iniyah cut from same cloth but Iniyah lacks of MC's code which makes Artemis real android while Iniyah stays as a simple robot.
 
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Scyths

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Been playing this for 2 days now and I'm fully up to date, at least I think I am if the ending of the current update is the press conference where Kindra vomits because of the pressure ?

I have to say though that I really liked the story and the characters, and am looking forward to more of it.
 

matschbirne

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I played again to see other paths and I think Gemma is the real daughter of McCreed but Iniyah is an android, they are teaching her almost like Artemis.
  • When they play chess, Iniyah won the game then Gemma says game is yours. She does not congratulate her opponent, instead she goes for maker.
  • Kindra only aware of 1 daughter from their childhood.
  • They call to fencing lesson, accomplished mission or something.
  • Iniyah also looks exact copy of Gemma(vice versa is also correct), just blonde.
If my assumption is correct, Artemis and Iniyah cut from same cloth but Iniyah lacks of MC's code which makes Artemis real android while Iniyah stays as a simple robot.
an interesting idea that also occurred to me, let's see how it develops:unsure:
 

zeph19

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Nice update. Artemis is super cute, but taking her shopping just didn't make sense at all, especially leaving her alone with V while her mecha-spine is fully on display in the nude.

Zelda being gone for two weeks now sucks. Cute expressions as always though!
Taking it slow with Kindra is weird.
The games were super fucking hard.
Kindra & Koko was a cute fucking scene.
At least one of those fencer girls is an Android or something. So expressionless, although it fits digi.b's tendency to borrow scenes from pop culture movies, just don't know where I've seen that kind of aesthetic before. Was it bladerunner? Prometheus?

With so many LIs I would've hoped for more progress on those fronts, though. Of course it's important to introduce the character who gave the game her name appropriately, but come on. It's a porn game, after all. With how many scenes are sexually loaded, you would expect there to be a little more action on that front.

Story wise it was super interesting to get to know Artemis and that Kindra had to take responsibility for the blackout. Now she has a Satellite that can be used as a weapon and I wonder how that will turn out. Reina passing judgement on Kindra's performance on screen makes me think that they'll work together, soon. I guess they'll all start working in the same company, since their values all align. Reina taking paycuts, Zelda appreciating MC's help with the car, June already being on board.. they all just mesh well.

With all that said, it feels like a relatively small update when you consider how long it has been in the making, as is tradition for these types of games, unfortunately. One can only hope, because this game is certainly worth it.
 
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catnapper

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I played again to see other paths and I think Gemma is the real daughter of McCreed but Iniyah is an android, they are teaching her almost like Artemis.
  • When they play chess, Iniyah won the game then Gemma says game is yours to her mother. She does not congratulate her opponent, instead she goes for the maker.
  • Kindra only aware of 1 daughter from their childhood.
  • They call to fencing lesson, accomplished mission or something.
  • Iniyah also looks exact copy of Gemma(vice versa is also correct), just blonde.
If my assumption is correct, Artemis and Iniyah cut from same cloth but Iniyah lacks of MC's code which makes Artemis real android while Iniyah stays as a simple robot.
I have come to much the same conclusion.
Which makes me wonder if McCreed and the Kapulettis knew of each other's projects, maybe even cooperated to some extent. I would not be surprised if McCreed knows about Artemis, and will recognise her as soon as she sees her.
 

D3xzalias

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I played again to see other paths and I think Gemma is the real daughter of McCreed but Iniyah is an android, they are teaching her almost like Artemis.
  • When they play chess, Iniyah won the game then Gemma says game is yours to her mother. She does not congratulate her opponent, instead she goes for the maker.
  • Kindra only aware of 1 daughter from their childhood.
  • They call to fencing lesson, accomplished mission or something.
  • Iniyah also looks exact copy of Gemma(vice versa is also correct), just blonde.
If my assumption is correct, Artemis and Iniyah cut from same cloth but Iniyah lacks of MC's code which makes Artemis real android while Iniyah stays as a simple robot.
I think you are correct, We all know McCreed industries and Kappuletti Industries worked together on some projects.
So probably shared some tech between the 2 company's. And here is where Koko comes in to play, I think Lorenzo looked at the code of Koko and saw the self learning capabilities of Koko, And in that code the future of Ai/Androids so Lorenzo created Artemis. Shared some of the code With McCreed industries. McCreed Industries created Iniyah. With the passing of Nora and Lorenzo McCreed didn't have access to the full code. So while Iniyah is a capable Android, she has short comings due to missing some important parts of Koko's self learning features.
 

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Good morning!

Firstly, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone. Seriously, the reception for this latest chapter was overwhelmingly positive. Very happy to finally be at the point of the story kicking off. A lot of side-arcs I'm excited to start exploring.

Also, I apologize for the two bugs found. Before release, I was reviewing variables and in my infinite wisdom....decided to update those two to be more descriptive for tracking purposes. Bug has since been resolved last Monday with patch 0.5.0b.

Later today, I'll be dropping 0.5.1 patch for both TARS and T-800. On top of the bug fixes mentioned above, it'll include some logic fixes, Naomi's date fix (if you opted for the name wager), typo fixes, and will also include the revised DataLeak menu that will include an "Extras" section. So those who collected Cassie's and Zoe's SDCards, they will be present there. Along with future SDCards that don't involve the main love interests. Additionally, this will also include the SDCard hunt for CH5 and two new wallpapers for Zelda and Veronica for your phone.

I also wanted to mention the new core feature for Artemis that was introduced in this chapter. I'll be re-wording the introduction for this feature to be more specific. But I wanted to mention that it's not a morality system per se. Originally, I was going to call it the "balance system", but that just felt too generic. Discernment Protocol fits the bill far more accurately because that is what this system is. Artemis' ability to judge situations and handle them based on the values she has at that moment. Of course, you can pump all points into one area. But keep in mind, not all situations will go well if you try to be empathetic. Some situations require a firm stance to prevent certain repercussions. The same goes for being too firm. Hence the original name "balance system". But again, you're free to guide Artemis how you please, the story will continue to play out. But her actions in critical situations will be tallied. Again, I plan on re-writing the notification as I felt it was a little too quick and wasn't clear enough for me.

After I push this next patch later today, I'll be officially taking my vacation and returning on the 20th. I will still drop a devlog next Monday to address anything. I'll also start my Blender training this week, so an intermittent vacation these next two weeks, haha.

Again, thank you all so much. This was a rocky dev cycle, but as always, Very much worth it. Looking forward to jumping into CH6 development.

Feel free to start dropping questions about Artemis, myself, my methods of development, etc. I'll collect them and write up my responses on the 20th.

Stay safe everyone and hope you all have a wonderful week!

- digi.B
 

dinobyro

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Potentially stupid question, and sorry if it's already been confirmed/answered earlier, or if i missed the obvious:

...Are V and Veronica the same person, or are they two entirely different people?

It was the small things that got me wondering, like the glasses, the username, the name font, etc. We interacted a lot with Veronica this update, yet V's silhouette is clearly the last of the bios. Plus, it's been shown that they're both techies...
 

rambo455

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that was an interesting place to stop. good game so far. shame it will take so long to have the next update as i am now really curious.
 
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Potentially stupid question, and sorry if it's already been confirmed/answered earlier, or if i missed the obvious:

...Are V and Veronica the same person, or are they two entirely different people?

It was the small things that got me wondering, like the glasses, the username, the name font, etc. We interacted a lot with Veronica this update, yet V's silhouette is clearly the last of the bios. Plus, it's been shown that they're both techies...
As far as we know they are the same person. V mentioned a sister so there is a slight chance they are sisters but my money is on that they are the same person. She mentioned a few times she was doing camgirl stuff just as an hobby, we know she is extremely good at cyber security, also mentioned her day job is cyber security, they also share same dataleaks so most likely the same person.
 
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Is anyone else having errors with the phone menu as well as the empathy/firm icons disappearing from the game entirely from the Kindra scene onward? The features come back when I load from an earlier save, but that point forward both features are gone.
 

Vile_Mage

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i have only one thing to say....WTF was that? The whole chapter was wholesome....the interactions with Artemis, relationships build up with Kindra and the other girls, the fucking cliffhanger at the end and last but not least Koko's return....damn i was expecting big things but that wow....and the satellite animations from Puggy hot-damn....my favorite chapter so far!!!
 
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i have only one thing to say....WTF was that? The whole chapter was wholesome....the interactions with Artemis, relationships build up with Kindra and the other girls, the fucking cliffhanger at the end and last but not least Koko's return....damn i was expecting big things but that wow....and the satellite animations from Puggy hot-damn....my favorite chapter so far!!!
Damn if there is a cliffhanger, I'll wait for 0.6
 
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