Ren'Py Abandoned Au-pair Innocence [v0.9 SE] [Alex]

[skullker]

Jesus Christ, you people have the weirdest approach to fictional characters. Do you also start screaming at the stage during Hamlet because that fucking cucklord Shakespeare let your precious prince be cucked by his own uncle?

That comment made 0 sense. I recommend you read some of the comments @Burt Reynolds Mustache wrote. He explains very well what the problems are.

However to give you a short explanation: You can`t compare a theater play with a game. A lot of players do projection onto the MC in games, after all you directly control him. In a play you are simply a silent observer with 0 choice or influence on the play. In games you have direct control of actions and decisions, so it is very easy to project yourself into it.

But to adress the actual problem. Most people aren`t angry with the fact that David(father) has sex with Tasha, but the fact that the last 3 or 4 uptdates solely focused on David/ Tasha and Alex/Ala. It is the fact that the creator seems to have completly abbandoned Alex/Tasha and is now forcing the aforementionted couples.

The second problem is how easy it is for David to fuck Tasha. He simply buys her. That is a 180 from her original concept of an innocent girl who works hard to support her family. She became a prostitute who sells her body to David and in the aftermath becomes an icequeen towards Alex (the supposed MC of the game).
Even though Alex the creator has now announced more content for Alex/Tasha, for many people there is no reason to continue that route, because now Tasha is used good. People who prefer Alex are comming in second, the father already had his way with Tasha. To explain it as a metaphor: David won the race and got the gold medal ( Sex with Tasha first). Alex lost the race and now only comes in second (has sex with her after the father had his way with her).

I hope this helps you understand the actual problem and not your perceived dilemma.

 

[Elnasercaco]

Jesus Christ, you people have the weirdest approach to fictional characters. Do you also start screaming at the stage during Hamlet because that fucking cucklord Shakespeare let your precious prince be cucked by his own uncle?

Oh... my ..... God.... what we are doing ?!! you are right .
It is just a game with fictional characters.. oh no .. :closedeyesmile: we were silly and like children
How it possible that we almost jumped to each other throats for just a game .. XDXDXDXDXDXD



Can you believe that we argued with each other about Tasha and who deserves her Alex or David :extremelyhappy:.. oh.. David :FeelsGoodMan:... this pig :FeelsBadMan: old couch
:noexpression: son of a gun
:confounded: asshole
:biggrin: bastard
I hate him .. you know ?
this sack of potatoes had sex with TASHAAAA !!

 

[neodtst]

Jesus Christ, you people have the weirdest approach to fictional characters. Do you also start screaming at the stage during Hamlet because that fucking cucklord Shakespeare let your precious prince be cucked by his own uncle?

True, tbh i am starting to think this self insert role play aka neo NTR is more trouble than it's worth , almost like some kinda liability.
Can't see this , can't do that , this cannot happen , that cannot happen.. Rage

Learn something new about this fetish everyday , now
can self insert only on young perv , old perv unable to insert. Rage again....

See a 2nd in game dick and you go

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After rage mode you have to inform everyone in forum you not playing the game because there is another dick in the game so we can all plan our next week schedule in advance
Now I actually kinda glad I don't have this problem.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

True, tbh i am starting to think this self insert role play aka neo NTR is more trouble than it's worth , almost like some kinda liability.
Can't see this , can't do that , this cannot happen , that cannot happen.. Rage

Learn something new about this fetish everyday , now
can self insert only on young perv , old perv unable to insert. Rage again....

See a 2nd in game dick and you go

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After rage mode you have to inform everyone in forum you not playing the game because there is another dick in the game so we can all plan our next week schedule in advance
Now I actually kinda glad I don't have this problem.

You're actually missing the point, and it's one that is missed consistently. I mean nearly every defense of the shit with David has nothing to with how it makes sense within the structure of the game or much other than 'David is better than Alex breh' and also "Wow you're all a bunch of whiny bitches, amirite?" And that's pretty much your argument here. Actually I misspoke that's not an argument, it's not even a discussion.

But to your point. I've gone over it time and again. It is not about there being another dick. That's not only reductive, it's flat out wrong in I would say 90% of the complaints. And yes, while there is a sizable percentage of people who want no competition for the main character at all, or even with a lack of competition just don't want to see other guys getting some, they are a minority and honestly if that was their main concern, they would have dropped this game LONG ago because David's been getting his dick wet a lot. No the real issue as I have consistently said, and that is that the game fucked up on both a structural level, and that by ignoring the actual main character of the game, as admitted on both his Patreon and in the game itself, the original story and fantasy have been shattered. And if this was some attempt at subversion (and even with a generous reading that's highly improbably), it failed miserably in that regard as well.

I mean, this is a porn game. Generally speaking, you are going to want people to WANT to get together with the main love interest. However due to the choices made, a sizable contingent seem to no longer care or even actively dislike her. But that's the problem when you set up a game where the stated goal is that Alex, again the main character, overcome the obstacles his father and others throw in his way to get the somewhat innocent (at least according to the title, though there are TONS of hints that back this up) and get the girl.

That fantasy is shattered with the David content. To many Alex (dev) has essentially let the antagonist win and there is realistically nothing the player can do to stop it (even skipping the weekends still intimates that Tasha is fucking him) and the funny thing is, most people would have been FINE with the option to have David fuck her if that option was given after Alex had a chance at his go. But that's not what happened. All indications point to the dev caving to the David fans and ignoring Alex entirely as a result. He's not the first dev to fall victim to this, and he won't be the last.

We'll see how the dev responds. He usually seems to talk about the next update around now.

 

[neodtst]

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when you say "most people would have been FINE with the option to have David fuck her if that option was given after Alex had a chance at his go" You sure about that statement or just speaking for own self-insert coz I am very sure the majority of self insertion anti NTR ppl have something else strongly to say on that.

You are the one missing my pt , i never have any problem with individual opinions when they self insert , or else i be arguing with thousands of ppl how the game should be run differently , there are god knows how many different minds when they self insert , your statement above already prove you just one of them.

I just saying this self insertion roleplay on the whole is not worth the benefits its brings. Too much restrictions and rage like my previous post stated.

 

[goobdoob]

Jesus Christ, you people have the weirdest approach to fictional characters. Do you also start screaming at the stage during Hamlet because that fucking cucklord Shakespeare let your precious prince be cucked by his own uncle?

You know I don't recall Claudius cucking Prince Hamlet. He did, however, murder Hamlet's father and marry his mother.

 

[arnel19702017]

the most important thing here is that the dev is very happy with his project, what else could he ask for?
future projects? it could happen

 

[a meme]

Oh, he makes less than $1000 a month. No wonder the cuckshit patrons have such an influence on him.

 

[Elnasercaco]

the most important thing here is that the dev is very happy with his project, what else could he ask for?
future projects? it could happen

He is happy for David not for the project m8
His project was about Alex and that thing is fucked up now , but he is happy that David won the ultimate prize : Tasha
It is very clear that he loves this asshole very much .

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

when you say "most people would have been FINE with the option to have David fuck her if that option was given after Alex had a chance at his go" You sure about that statement or just speaking for own self-insert coz I am very sure the majority of self insertion anti NTR ppl have something else strongly to say on that.

You are the one missing my pt , i never have any problem with individual opinions when they self insert , or else i be arguing with thousands of ppl how the game should be run differently , there are god knows how many different minds when they self insert , your statement above already prove you just one of them.

I just saying this self insertion roleplay on the whole is not worth the benefits its brings. Too much restrictions and rage like my previous post stated.

Actually yes there is plenty of evidence of this here on different threads. Lots of games have optional NTR. The one I write for does. Now I guarantee you if I were to say, ignore the MC relationship with the LI and just focus on the other side NTR stories, a lot of people would lose their shit. Despite what you may think I'm actually pretty neutral on the whole concept. Like everything else it's good when it's done well, and not so great if it's not.

And identification with a playable character in a game or other work of fiction is the point. I mean these aren't simple arcade games with no character (and even then, people identfied with say Pac-Man screaming "I died!" when they lose) It's pointless to argue whether or not people should identify with characters in art. People do. They have for time immemorial, and they will continue to do so in the future. Hell people identify with their CARS for fuck sake, or with giant monsters like Godzilla, or all sorts of other things.

Identification is not what caused the uproar. Not understanding how identification works did.

 

[arnel19702017]

Actually yes there is plenty of evidence of this here on different threads. Lots of games have optional NTR. The one I write for does. Now I guarantee you if I were to say, ignore the MC relationship with the LI and just focus on the other side NTR stories, a lot of people would lose their shit. Despite what you may think I'm actually pretty neutral on the whole concept. Like everything else it's good when it's done well, and not so great if it's not.

And identification with a playable character in a game or other work of fiction is the point. I mean these aren't simple arcade games with no character (and even then, people identfied with say Pac-Man screaming "I died!" when they lose) It's pointless to argue whether or not people should identify with characters in art. People do. They have for time immemorial, and they will continue to do so in the future. Hell people identify with their CARS for fuck sake, or with giant monsters like Godzilla, or all sorts of other things.

Identification is not what caused the uproar. Not understanding how identification works did.

that's why we have riots when the ball game win goes to one team and not the other

 

[Elnasercaco]

Actually yes there is plenty of evidence of this here on different threads. Lots of games have optional NTR. The one I write for does. Now I guarantee you if I were to say, ignore the MC relationship with the LI and just focus on the other side NTR stories, a lot of people would lose their shit. Despite what you may think I'm actually pretty neutral on the whole concept. Like everything else it's good when it's done well, and not so great if it's not.

And identification with a playable character in a game or other work of fiction is the point. I mean these aren't simple arcade games with no character (and even then, people identfied with say Pac-Man screaming "I died!" when they lose) It's pointless to argue whether or not people should identify with characters in art. People do. They have for time immemorial, and they will continue to do so in the future. Hell people identify with their CARS for fuck sake, or with giant monsters like Godzilla, or all sorts of other things.

Identification is not what caused the uproar. Not understanding how identification works did.

Sorry i hear that a lot but what is the ( NTR ) ?

 

[armion82]

Is anyone still believe this is a sandbox game?The game now is more close to visual novel even more than Big Brother.
And btw just like BB have bad sex scenes,and sadly all of them/BB at least have a couple of good ones/.
Also there is nothing to do during all that hours we have.Now without Charlotte and Tasha this is even more obvious.The game is empty.Too many days we have only 1 or 2 things to do.Some days there is even 0 events.So we just press skip button.He realy need to stop adding more days and go back to fill the previous days with some content.In BB we have at least 6-7 things to do each day,here the best is 3-4 one day of the week.

 

[Heitcaho]

Sorry i hear that a lot but what is the ( NTR ) ?

NTR or Netorare literally means "cuckold" and shortened as NTR is a hentai genre where in a heroine will be introduced as having a significant other, which may be a husband, a boyfriend, or even a partner in sexual tension relationship. The story will then show the aforementioned heroine being intimate with another man thus provoking jealousy in the audience by proxy.

Ripped straight from Urban Dictionary with some slight changes by myself and the most simple and easy explanation of it.

It started out as a niche fetish in Japanese H games that's come over to the west in the last couple of years and seems to attract a loud minority. It usually but not always will involve rape into love, is poorly written, cliched, done mostly for initial shock value and takes little talent and writing skill in most cases (BUT not all, looking at you Burt). And it's an old but funny rebuttal that some of the Japanese came up with the fetish, which says that only fat old men past their prime and unstable girls in their teens find it an arousing genre.

 

[arnel19702017]

Sorry i hear that a lot but what is the ( NTR ) ?

what happened to Alex with Tasha is a great example, check out game "the Tyrant" super hot mom, you get to touch when she is drunk or sleeping but that's about it, while every other male around you gets to fuck her while sober.
it's like having an NPC rub his cock on your face while saying "I'm going to fuck everyone you love and there's nothing you can do about it" and sadly you can't do anything about it but look as it happens...THE END

 

[vloungeone]

We are on page 109. So 30 pages in this forum for 4 pictures in less than 1 minute this is a world record or rather the miscarriage in a madhouse. 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest' was a drama but this one is even better.

 

[Heitcaho]

I must admit this has been one of the most interesting forums I've ever been a part of on this site and look at it with the same eyes I would a 3 legged donkey.

 

[vloungeone]

I must admit this has been one of the most interesting forums I've ever been a part of on this site and look at it with the same eyes I would a 3 legged donkey.

jack nicholson would certainly have taken the 3-legged donkey for a walk

 

[Elnasercaco]

NTR or Netorare literally means "cuckold" and shortened as NTR is a hentai genre where in a heroine will be introduced as having a significant other, which may be a husband, a boyfriend, or even a partner in sexual tension relationship. The story will then show the aforementioned heroine being intimate with another man thus provoking jealousy in the audience by proxy.

Ripped straight from Urban Dictionary with some slight changes by myself and the most simple and easy explanation of it.

It started out as a niche fetish in Japanese H games that's come over to the west in the last couple of years and seems to attract a loud minority. It usually but not always will involve rape into love, is poorly written, cliched, done mostly for initial shock value and takes little talent and writing skill in most cases (BUT not all, looking at you Burt). And it's an old but funny rebuttal that some of the Japanese came up with the fetish, which says that only fat old men past their prime and unstable girls in their teens find it an arousing genre.

Thanks my friend .. so when we turn NTR on shit happens ?

what happened to Alex with Tasha is a great example, check out game "the Tyrant" super hot mom, you get to touch when she is drunk or sleeping but that's about it, while every other male around you gets to fuck her while sober.
it's like having an NPC rub his cock on your face while saying "I'm going to fuck everyone you love and there's nothing you can do about it" and sadly you can't do anything about it but look as it happens...THE END

I played the Tyrant and it is so messed up and repeated and yes everyone is fucking her and i am watching :FeelsGoodMan:
So is it better to turn NTR on or off ?

I must admit this has been one of the most interesting forums I've ever been a part of on this site and look at it with the same eyes I would a 3 legged donkey.

It is all because of the ( Black Update ) . ( i think it is a cool name for the turning point in this one )

 

[Heitcaho]

It is all because of the ( Black Update ) . ( i think it is a cool name for the turning point in this one )

I think that name, IE the Black update would imply something else in the NTR genre, maybe when Tasha's classmate Tyrone gets introduced it can be called that lmao.