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I just don't see why it doesn't I tend to go by the VNDB definition:This definition doesn't work when it comes to English games. Definition I mentioned is based on Japanese market. NTR is popular there but it's not like you will find it everywhere. But other males that can bang dateble females are a common thing that's not really consider as any form of fetish. It's just natural. Western mentality is different and so are our games. I know what you're saying and I agree but it's not like definition of something can be changed just to fit something else. I would tag such a thing as NTR if I was a dev but it's not NTR in original form. In fact I kinda struggle to fit real NTR into incest games. I've never seen such a thing in Japan and I think it's just doesn't work in that setting. But our "western NTR" can induce similiar feelings as real (tho much softer imo) and should be tagged. Or if dev wishes to not tag any fetish it's fine as well for me.
Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish designed to cause sexual jealousy by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist.
For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:
1. The heroine either must be romantically involved with the protagonist, a potential romance for him or of someone that the protagonist shares such a close relationship (sister, mother, osananajimi etc.) that jealousy is a factor.
2. Related sexual events are explicitly shown to the player or later described in detail.
This does not include relationships of heroines that are outside the route you follow. Explanation: Route 1 is for Heroine A, the protagonist is romantically involved with her. During that route, if she sleeps with other characters than the protagonist, it would be NTR. But during Route 2, which is about Heroine B, where the protagonist has no romantic relationship with Heroine A, her having sex with others wouldn't count as NTR.
So, if say we had a route where you can't pursue Christine at all, and she ended up losing it to Robert, then we might have something to talk about. But every route in the game has Mike showing interest in Christine and wanting to bang her. The entire point of the game, and the title are about the relationship between Mike and Christine. So any of the shenanigans with the other guys is NTR by that definition.
I've also played a fair number of Japanese games, and don't recall many of the girls in them getting banged by other guys. It happens in a route in School Days, and that's about all I can think of off the top of my head. Some of them have skeevy boss relationships or boyfriends of an older woman, but it rarely if ever happens with the main heroine (I assume in an NTR game this happens more, but I haven't played any Japanese NTR games.) I also don't recall any say, Japanese incest games where you little sister takes a multi-stop ride on a cock train, that wouldn't be labeled that either. Though I do admit that I am not a connoisseur of Japanese game porn.
I'm not trying to be pedantic here. If a game has NTR, good for it. But realize that a lot of people have pretty damn negative reactions to it. And not having a tag due to what is at best a technicality is going to nothing but piss people off is all I am saying.