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This definition doesn't work when it comes to English games. Definition I mentioned is based on Japanese market. NTR is popular there but it's not like you will find it everywhere. But other males that can bang dateble females are a common thing that's not really consider as any form of fetish. It's just natural. Western mentality is different and so are our games. I know what you're saying and I agree but it's not like definition of something can be changed just to fit something else. I would tag such a thing as NTR if I was a dev but it's not NTR in original form. In fact I kinda struggle to fit real NTR into incest games. I've never seen such a thing in Japan and I think it's just doesn't work in that setting. But our "western NTR" can induce similiar feelings as real (tho much softer imo) and should be tagged. Or if dev wishes to not tag any fetish it's fine as well for me.
I just don't see why it doesn't I tend to go by the VNDB definition:

Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish designed to cause sexual jealousy by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist.

For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:
1. The heroine either must be romantically involved with the protagonist, a potential romance for him or of someone that the protagonist shares such a close relationship (sister, mother, osananajimi etc.) that jealousy is a factor.

2. Related sexual events are explicitly shown to the player or later described in detail.

This does not include relationships of heroines that are outside the route you follow. Explanation: Route 1 is for Heroine A, the protagonist is romantically involved with her. During that route, if she sleeps with other characters than the protagonist, it would be NTR. But during Route 2, which is about Heroine B, where the protagonist has no romantic relationship with Heroine A, her having sex with others wouldn't count as NTR.


So, if say we had a route where you can't pursue Christine at all, and she ended up losing it to Robert, then we might have something to talk about. But every route in the game has Mike showing interest in Christine and wanting to bang her. The entire point of the game, and the title are about the relationship between Mike and Christine. So any of the shenanigans with the other guys is NTR by that definition.

I've also played a fair number of Japanese games, and don't recall many of the girls in them getting banged by other guys. It happens in a route in School Days, and that's about all I can think of off the top of my head. Some of them have skeevy boss relationships or boyfriends of an older woman, but it rarely if ever happens with the main heroine (I assume in an NTR game this happens more, but I haven't played any Japanese NTR games.) I also don't recall any say, Japanese incest games where you little sister takes a multi-stop ride on a cock train, that wouldn't be labeled that either. Though I do admit that I am not a connoisseur of Japanese game porn.

I'm not trying to be pedantic here. If a game has NTR, good for it. But realize that a lot of people have pretty damn negative reactions to it. And not having a tag due to what is at best a technicality is going to nothing but piss people off is all I am saying.
 

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I just don't see why it doesn't I tend to go by the VNDB definition:

Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish designed to cause sexual jealousy by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist.

For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:
1. The heroine either must be romantically involved with the protagonist, a potential romance for him or of someone that the protagonist shares such a close relationship (sister, mother, osananajimi etc.) that jealousy is a factor.

2. Related sexual events are explicitly shown to the player or later described in detail.

This does not include relationships of heroines that are outside the route you follow. Explanation: Route 1 is for Heroine A, the protagonist is romantically involved with her. During that route, if she sleeps with other characters than the protagonist, it would be NTR. But during Route 2, which is about Heroine B, where the protagonist has no romantic relationship with Heroine A, her having sex with others wouldn't count as NTR.


So, if say we had a route where you can't pursue Christine at all, and she ended up losing it to Robert, then we might have something to talk about. But every route in the game has Mike showing interest in Christine and wanting to bang her. The entire point of the game, and the title are about the relationship between Mike and Christine. So any of the shenanigans with the other guys is NTR by that definition.

I've also played a fair number of Japanese games, and don't recall many of the girls in them getting banged by other guys. It happens in a route in School Days, and that's about all I can think of off the top of my head. Some of them have skeevy boss relationships or boyfriends of an older woman, but it rarely if ever happens with the main heroine (I assume in an NTR game this happens more, but I haven't played any Japanese NTR games.) I also don't recall any say, Japanese incest games where you little sister takes a multi-stop ride on a cock train, that wouldn't be labeled that either. Though I do admit that I am not a connoisseur of Japanese game porn.

I'm not trying to be pedantic here. If a game has NTR, good for it. But realize that a lot of people have pretty damn negative reactions to it. And not having a tag due to what is at best a technicality is going to nothing but piss people off is all I am saying.
Pretty much difference in a western perspective makes us go after every girl in our games rather than single routes so it might be some reason why people feel this vibe. In Babysitter tho there are routes on which Uncle isn't really interested with niece. I played all routes and on some of them he didn't creep at all even in thoughts. And Babysitter isn't as specific as Dating My Daughter with it's title and I easily see different possibilities (Jess moving to uncle makes her another object of babysitting. And babysitting can go wrong).
Most Japanese games are plot focused vanilla love stories and it's rare for other males to appear in that context. But there are hundreds of titles, even among those translated (like Sagara Family which is pretty typical harem), who have elements we would clearly call NTR on this forum. Japanese incest games are not as dominating as here and they usually stay in their fetish territory tho I'm sure I would find some examples with other males. But it won't be labelled as NTR.
"during Route 2, which is about Heroine B, where the protagonist has no romantic relationship with Heroine A, her having sex with others wouldn't count as NTR." That's probably the most important sentence that shows difference between other male character doing other female character and real NTR. Problem is that western games rarely have any romantic relationships. Mostly sexual.
And I'm not being picky about you wanting a tag as well. I agree it's needed. But I like clear definitions and in my opinion English world need something more specific:p
Let's stop this debate here cuz I don't want to have rape tag in this thread and sooner than later some mod will bring it to us for offtop.

@OhWee Cool infos. I wonder what's about all these hidden characters. I also wonder what Josh's future will bring (Robert/Silver's treatment?) but I'm sure it's a secret for now. Could you tell us something about promised timeframe for this and next releases? Cuz it's always nice to know when to expect things and this update was a bit later than we were said
 
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I am getting this error when I try Erotic Games:

ull traceback:
File "game/script.rpy", line 3918, in script
if PornToday > 1:
File "C:\Users\TheFapper2\Desktop\0.10.0.004\Babysitter-0.0.8-win\renpy\ast.py", line 1647, in execute
if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
File "C:\Users\TheFapper2\Desktop\0.10.0.004\Babysitter-0.0.8-win\renpy\python.py", line 1670, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "C:\Users\TheFapper2\Desktop\0.10.0.004\Babysitter-0.0.8-win\renpy\python.py", line 1665, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/script.rpy", line 3918, in <module>
if PornToday > 1:
NameError: name 'PornToday' is not defined
Someone knows how to fix?
In fact I have nothing to do after back of the company with the girl getting a job. Is that the end? I'm in July 5
 

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Have anyone been able to get Chriss to continue masturbate with Jessicas dildo even after she notices that Josh is there?
 

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Have anyone been able to get Chriss to continue masturbate with Jessicas dildo even after she notices that Josh is there?
I tried many options and I doubt it's even possible. She can think about Jess, uncle or Robert but she won't masturbate at this point I guess. It's also worth to remember that if she's not interested in Uncle she will most likely go after Robert and crash the game at this point. It was fixed probably in Patreon version
 

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I tried many options and I doubt it's even possible. She can think about Jess, uncle or Robert but she won't masturbate at this point I guess. It's also worth to remember that if she's not interested in Uncle she will most likely go after Robert and crash the game at this point. It was fixed probably in Patreon version
Actually i choose Robert and it didnt crash, i still Think she thought about uncle in the bath later so might be a bug.
Yeah, too bad , it would have been really hot
 

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Actually i choose Robert and it didnt crash, i still Think she thought about uncle in the bath later so might be a bug.
Yeah, too bad , it would have been really hot
I think it's not about choosing Robert. I checked all routes and it crashes only when my Uncle lost many points so she don't see him in any sexual way. Game tries to use Robert's dream but can't find it so it crashes and after ignore it goes after Uncle regardless of your choices. But I'm sure it will be fixed in next update so nothing to worry about
 

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Update from dev:
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Hi guys,

Last time I received so many requests for bonus image so it was pretty hard to choose...

Therefore I decided to make one thematic picture... I hope you are going to like it.

Tommorrow I will be posting also information about current progress on the game and I will also change a Patreon site a little.

T4bbo

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Very good game, hope they wont destroy it like MrDots did if patreon goes after the developer....

Amazing renders, super writing and story / characters 9/10 from me! but please T4bbo dont change the game for patreons rules and if you have to please make a way to restore it!
 
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I'm really interested in this new progress status that was promised for today. Hope they will post it soon
 

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Ever since I first saw this attic bedroom, I've been wanting to to do this... here's another crossover piece, with my 'porn game celebrity impersonators...'.

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OhWee
That is some hilariously twisted stuff! I feel like I am watching an X-rated version of Laff-In.
 
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