VN Ren'Py Babysitting Cream: BetaMix Edition [v0.3.5] [Novilon]

[Revo]

wow. Will this game really be completed at one point?

Good question, as far as I'm aware avalon is doing his "own" version aka remake of the game (when is it coming? Don't know) regarding this one, this is a bit of a mystery, we should contact mystery Inc to know what's going on regarding the missing previous dev and potential disappearance of the next dev

P.s. If you can't tell, I'm making a joke about novilon disappearing since most people that try to pick this game have vanish at some point without a trace

 

[gayboy692003]

what can you do when you have -20 moral alignment?

 

[normalguy96]

Does anyone have a list of all the things you can do in the game and how to do them idk how long that list would be but it would be a nice thing to have lol.

 

[CarlCarlson99]

i mean, you can look at the script files if you want to see EVERYTHING you can do

 

[FoxyTails]

Does anyone have a list of all the things you can do in the game and how to do them idk how long that list would be but it would be a nice thing to have lol.

I assume you mean the 'main events' & not all the different ways of getting to them ?
FYI I've tried to do flow charts of the different paths/options to events but gave up as there were sooooo many required variables, tasks (whatever you'll like to call them) to keep track of

Carlcarlson stated

i mean, you can look at the script files if you want to see EVERYTHING you can do

is one way to do it, but even that can be confusing unless you can understand the coding..

One 'tip' I can give are the achievements in the game which can give a clue to many of the main current events, some can be achieved by different ways, & there's also 'items' that can be collected where some can affect gameplay & give more options

 

[Novilon]

what can you do when you have -20 moral alignment?

...feel good about being bad?

But no, seriously: The lowest morality check currently in the game is -12, which enables the "rape Tails" scene after you make him mad for letting Cream swim topless and he calls you out on it. Driving your morality score any lower than that doesn't get you anything else.

The other negative-morality checks, as the code currently stands, are as follows:

• MALL: A morality of -10 will give you the option to try to steal the 'special panties' from the Lingerie store rather than paying for them.
• MOCHI-MOCHI SHOP: (Porn store) A -10 morality makes the "Rouge knows too much" rape scene available when she guesses (correctly) that you and Cream have been doing naughty things together.
• LIVING ROOM: After you go to her room and apologize to Cream for accusing her of cheating while playing videogames, a -10 morality gives you the option to "do something naughty to Cream" after she falls asleep.
• BACK YARD: A morality of -7 is one way you can successfully steal Cream's bikini top after it comes off while playing in the pool. (This isn't required, though; you can also steal it if your Relationship is at least 400, or if you've already gotten her to the point where she will remove her dress.)

 

[rashka41]

...feel good about being bad?

But no, seriously: The lowest morality check currently in the game is -12, which enables the "rape Tails" scene after you make him mad for letting Cream swim topless and he calls you out on it. Driving your morality score any lower than that doesn't get you anything else.

The other negative-morality checks, as the code currently stands, are as follows:

• MALL: A morality of -10 will give you the option to try to steal the 'special panties' from the Lingerie store rather than paying for them.
• MOCHI-MOCHI SHOP: (Porn store) A -10 morality makes the "Rouge knows too much" rape scene available when she guesses (correctly) that you and Cream have been doing naughty things together.
• LIVING ROOM: After you go to her room and apologize to Cream for accusing her of cheating while playing videogames, a -10 morality gives you the option to "do something naughty to Cream" after she falls asleep.
• BACK YARD: A morality of -7 is one way you can successfully steal Cream's bikini top after it comes off while playing in the pool. (This isn't required, though; you can also steal it if your Relationship is at least 400, or if you've already gotten her to the point where she will remove her dress.)

While i am not particularly interested in the negative morality paths, i appreciate that you sometimes come out of the woodwork to answer these kinds of questions despite your busy life.

 

[DSO13]

I was gonna ask how much stuff is impacted by negative morality because it never felt like there was all that much. As if Avalon had the idea that it could be used for a ton of stuff without having a bunch of concepts ready to go.

Though I respect that changing things this much would be hugely difficult and would theoretically violate the idea of this being a continuation/completion of the original game rather than a radical reimagining, I sometimes idly wonder if it would be better served replaced by a "lewdness" system whereby the more you do particularly racy/saucy stuff with Cream the more adventurous or aggressive she gets, giving you alternate scenes. There are a few instances of things like this that seem to depend mostly on Sonic's stats and RWC but it would be interesting to see it pressed further as a way to unlock some extra kinky content.

 

[Novilon]

BTW, update for the masses

I was gonna ask how much stuff is impacted by negative morality because it never felt like there was all that much. As if Avalon had the idea that it could be used for a ton of stuff without having a bunch of concepts ready to go.

Though I respect that changing things this much would be hugely difficult and would theoretically violate the idea of this being a continuation/completion of the original game rather than a radical reimagining, I sometimes idly wonder if it would be better served replaced by a "lewdness" system whereby the more you do particularly racy/saucy stuff with Cream the more adventurous or aggressive she gets, giving you alternate scenes. There are a few instances of things like this that seem to depend mostly on Sonic's stats and RWC but it would be interesting to see it pressed further as a way to unlock some extra kinky content.

Well, this game is already a pretty significant "reimagining", considering where it started from! If anything, it's a continuation of what FuzzyBunny23 started, and FB23 had already changed a number of things and declared his intention to greatly tone down, if not eliminate entirely, much of the harsher rape/non-con stuff, especially that directed at the younger characters like Cream and Tails. So the game was already headed off in a different direction from whatever Av had in mind, anyway. (And is definitely going in a different direction than what his more recent Sonic and BSC-themed artwork has been going in... )

But yeah, considering that there are only a bare handful of morality-level checks as it is, and that it's only checking for negative "yield to the Dark Side" things, it's probably not all that useful.

As for the "lewdness" suggestion of Cream getting more adventurous or aggressive, we do have some of that in the game already. One of the things I've been doing recently with the new / expanded scenes is trying to "multi-path" them so that what Cream does, or is willing to do, can change based on what she's already done with you previously. (The Sonic/Amy/Cream threesome, for example, plays out differently depending on whether she's already deep-throated you once before.) I absolutely agree that there should be more of it, though!

 

[FoxyTails]

I was gonna ask how much stuff is impacted by negative morality because it never felt like there was all that much. As if Avalon had the idea that it could be used for a ton of stuff without having a bunch of concepts ready to go.

Though I respect that changing things this much would be hugely difficult and would theoretically violate the idea of this being a continuation/completion of the original game rather than a radical reimagining, I sometimes idly wonder if it would be better served replaced by a "lewdness" system whereby the more you do particularly racy/saucy stuff with Cream the more adventurous or aggressive she gets, giving you alternate scenes. There are a few instances of things like this that seem to depend mostly on Sonic's stats and RWC but it would be interesting to see it pressed further as a way to unlock some extra kinky content.

Well, there is actually more variables involved in decision making throughout the game then you may think
To my knowledge there are at least 10 stats involved in the game that has an affect on gameplay in some way

These are Energy, RWC, Happiness, Peeping, Lust, Jerk, Expose, Touch, Moral and Hunger..

Since Peeping, Jerking, Touching & Exposure could also be classed as also being 'lewd', I think we've already have the lewdness angle covered - just down to Novilon to decide on which stat(s) to use for which (present & possible future) scenes

For example currently in game - if your 'peeping' is high enough then you can 'get an invitation' to go into the changing room with Cream, or if your exposure is high enough when playing Dolls with Cream then a messy scene can occur - admittingly both of these do require you to of also being able to get Cream out of her dress - which relies heavily on RWC

 

[Nightdrinker]

hello novilon, i don't want to burden you, but do you have any idea around when you will upload the next update ?

 

[LastnameDude]

OH BOY! it's coming, the spooky month and that means BCB halloween update (maybe not) take your time novilon, maybe the wait will be worth it...

 

[Kedab]

read oob backwards.

 

[megisss]

okey
AAAAAAAAAAHHHH D:

 

[Revo]

hello novilon, i don't want to burden you, but do you have any idea around when you will upload the next update ?

Probably not anytime soon, but probably sooner than later if that make sense since his work is slowing down

 

[zeraligator]

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Something about the back of her neck unnerves me.

 

[shmurfer]

Something about the back of her neck unnerves me.

You have no reason to think that's fluff and is instead a huge distended sack of fat filling up her hoodie but then fitting back down the neck with no other sign that her body is too big for the shirt.

 

[Ran_Tome]

I'd be down for more morality based stuff, just saying...

 

[lupar]

I'd be down for more morality based stuff, just saying...

that is actually going away in this mod.

 

[tcm17]

that is actually going away in this mod.

Unfortunate. I can understand the argument that Novilon is making and they should only make something they are comfortable with. But to paraphrase a different creator, kink is transgressive. And this game is already a massive kink exhibition. Maybe there's a middle ground where Cream and Sonic can both let their kink flags fly by doing some questionable stuff in regards to the morality flags.