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laflare82

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Carol's at the back of the library, along with Ruby.
Yeap your absolutely right I've gone there several times that was the 1st place I checked because when I started this version that's where I saw her she hasn't been there since I spoke to her the 1st time shes never came back to that location now. Now I have a quest so I assumed she'd come back no Carole I've gone there everyday for 2 weeks since I got the quest, thanks alot for the reply. I really like this game liked the first one also I dont really care if it's using some old scenes and adding to them I honestly don't understand what the complaint is here. The game feels like a new game even with this minor set back I'm enjoying it so much that I dont mind starting a new game to try and fix this bug.
 

ProofreadingRUS

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Yeap your absolutely right I've gone there several times that was the 1st place I checked because when I started this version that's where I saw her she hasn't been there since I spoke to her the 1st time shes never came back to that location now. Now I have a quest so I assumed she'd come back no Carole I've gone there everyday for 2 weeks since I got the quest, thanks alot for the reply. I really like this game liked the first one also I dont really care if it's using some old scenes and adding to them I honestly don't understand what the complaint is here. The game feels like a new game even with this minor set back I'm enjoying it so much that I dont mind starting a new game to try and fix this bug.
She's there Friday morning after Eleana's quest starts and not before.
 

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Anyone else getting a weird glitch where if you try to visit Eleana at the pool, Willows pool sceen always plays?, even when she didnt come over, and weirder than that it plays that scene in Spanish despite having english selected, however if you do invite her over it plays in english correctly. Anyone know a workaround for that glitch
 
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Anyone else getting a weird glitch where if you try to visit Eleana at the pool, Willows pool sceen always plays?, even when she didnt come over, and weirder than that it plays that scene in Spanish despite having english selected, however if you do invite her over it plays in english correctly. Anyone know a workaround for that glitch
What I do is wait for next version.....peace.
 
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HottRod

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I keep finding only wood and the command prompt don't work.
Don Quijote struck again.
i haven't tried this, but the different forums are saying "you need 1000 leather so go to the cave and kill snake and spider "
hope this helps
 

HottRod

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Anyone else getting a weird glitch where if you try to visit Eleana at the pool, Willows pool sceen always plays?, even when she didnt come over, and weirder than that it plays that scene in Spanish despite having english selected, however if you do invite her over it plays in english correctly. Anyone know a workaround for that glitch
there is a gamefix for BGR1.4
 

HottRod

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I guess this place won't open or something appears for me to dig like the compass
Or until Red reaches a certain level. I'm already at level 11 so nothing new happens yet.
Other then that ghost I helped out rest in peace.
I can't go further in the cementary then this point.
You've completed all the cementary missions in version 1.4
1. deliver supplies to the tavern
2. help ghost rest in peace
(other missions pending next release)
 

HottRod

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I began playing this update with last update completed up to Elena did a few if her Quest and stop new update did most of new events and then started thinking somethings are missing from previous game and my Questlog was not showing new events I just kept clicking different places until I got a cutscene to activate new events. So then I came back here and saw Questlogfix installed it now all of my Questplus information has disappeared I nothing under Quest plus anymore it's just blank and I also cant access the other girls names anymore such as Octavia before installing questlogfuq yes that's exactly what it did to my game. I could see information on Octavia that said wait till next update or something along those lines but now I can't even see her name and also since I installed, I believe that's why I just got a new cutscene where Elisa tells me Elena got expelled maybe it didn't activate that or it did but I have no questlog to know what to do next MC said he needs to find Carole but I dont have a clue if I can actually find her or if it's not implemented yet.
I hate to tell ya, but it looks like you need to delete the old files and do a fresh install (because the older files are mixing with the new and corrupting the game) or youre using an old mod that was great (0_BG_MOD_jsbb) but also will corrupt the game
 
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Anyone else getting a weird glitch where if you try to visit Eleana at the pool, Willows pool sceen always plays?, even when she didnt come over, and weirder than that it plays that scene in Spanish despite having english selected, however if you do invite her over it plays in english correctly. Anyone know a workaround for that glitch
have you tried the gamefix?
 

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I don't know why you feel so offended or disappointed about the game. Let's be clear, and realistic about the history of the game. BG was unhappy with development and history. So I decided to make major improvements and better explain the story. Now if you played the story well you would say that it is better explained, has more contents. It has an Rpg system that gives you a big plus for the development of the game. You shouldn't be angry, you should be clapping because the game whether it's getting better and it's getting more fun. Forget the old BG and focus on the new one, relax and have fun.
Well lets break it down a bit.

ART
Your new stuff is nice. I still dislike some of your model choices but I still find the asthetics enjoyable. just fix Sasha's arms in the bathroom scene since she has a curvy body and anorexic arms for some unkown reason. Personally I would think it a waste not to use some of the old photos and I would rather you did if it speeds up the development process content wise.

STORY
I will say the writing of the overall story is improved greatly. These tweaks do help quite a bit in understanding world building and the english is a massive bit bigger.

But when we get to individual characters, Things start to sort of wane a bit. Heres my viewpoint for what its worth.

The MC needs to decide what he wants to be. One minute hes loving and caring the next he's rapey. He's written to be whatever we want him to be for that scene, but it makes no contextual sense as a whole. If he progressed from some kind of Incel to a Alpha Dom that would be great, but right now he is all over the place in the story.

The MC and Sophie: This is rushed WAAAAYYYY too fast. I mean holy crap too fast. In love? the story cant decide if they are in a mutually beneficial relationship or madly in love. Sophie is a great potential character to be his guide, and she does this well so far. but the intimacy here needs to be a slow burn. Make that relationship grow into something more meaningful. I really like sohpie as a character and each iteration of the game has developed her character further to my liking. Its a shame she gets so rushed through what should be a major story arc in the game.

The other girls I know your reworking the story. Take you time and build that slow burn IMO. They are pretty well thought out characters but it would be nice to see them hanging around a bit more like they used to. It would make the world a bit more immersive if you see the girls doing stuff even if they arent really availible for romance.

Which brings me to the last little bit on characters. We have all these girls that tell us we cant get what we want unless we get X stat to Y variable. Ok. No Problem. But unfortunately you didnt bring in the payoff. If a player gets 150 popularity let him massage the girls ass, not "fuck you bitch im here for lunch." It may work for the MC, but remember the Player is the one playing and needs a reward. If you don't have one. Tell us it's not availible in the game so we know not to grind that out.

ENERGY AND MONEY

Ok so the money one I actually like, even when it bones me hard. I started the game in the hole and I didn't cheat myself any money. It can be pretty rewarding. Probably some minor tweaks here and there as the game goes and it will improve.

energy however is practically unneccessary. You have a limited number of actions per day and further limiting it by a depleting an energy bar that you have to hunt down to check is tedious and redundant. Pick one but not both. Honestly the day action limitations should be enough and the player is familiar with this system already. Being unique for the sake of Uniqueness isn't a good design choice and limitations are not meant to bring fun but to hinder it going into easy more. (something porn games really dont need to worry about anyways)

GAME MECHANICS

your RPG system is....well to put it nicely not that great. It makes no sense here. You are on an island with superior technology and I'm going to a cave to fight spiders and snakes to pick up what amounts to construction equipment? Pretty sure this isnt how the other families built their skyscrapers and I don't think the girls will be impressed with the treehouse clubhouse I'm going to build with my two hands in comparison. The combat is meh, the animations feel like Mortal Kombat 1, and I'm just really drowning Sophie in potions or game overing.

Try making it make more sense really. Why not fight baddies that make actual sense to the story? rival families. You can make up any number of minor ones that think the MC is easy prey and it would be much more interesting and immersive. The proposed crafting system isn't well placed here. try something more economical based. He should be focused on money, power, and dominance so building stuff is a fun idea but doesnt really fit at all.

This is really the wrong engine to make an RPG out of for killing spiders and slimes. RPGM does that perfectly without effort. Its not a bad idea, it just needs so better more thought out...well everything. Sorry. But it really does.

I know you think of this place as a pirate site but realistically this is where we go to find new games to support or play. before the zone you had the chans which is a mess to try and get through. And discussing games on on specific patreons is equally a mess. Especially now that so many have other means of making income and some start with no income model at all. This place really is the best place to talk games of this kind with like minded people. So please try to keep that in mind when you say things like "if you don't like it don't play it." these people are potentially patreons even if most are just here for free games.

As for why so many of us are disappointed.....well....You kinda burned some of us who were supporting you. I followed your game since you started at .01 and I thought it had a lot of merit. We saw you progress, then you went on hiatus, came back with a newer updated version that was well meh then again with a whole new UI, and here you are again after a year long hiatus for the same reasons. and we now have less progressive content than previous and the development is now on its 3rd year. When you compare it to games that development has started after, has better content and have completed or near completion, it doesn't take much to figure out why people are not thrilled with the state of development.

What you do with that bit of information is entirely up to you of course. Truth be told I would hate to see a game I once invested in never be completed, but I can't sanely invest in again until I see some real progress in the game besides adding in code I grabbed from Lemma Soft Forums (not knocking LemmaSoft, its a great place to learn Ren'Py)

Finally remember the words of Tommy Versetti in GTA: Vice City "keep the cameras pointed at the poontang" If your game isn't doing that, fix it to where it is. The game was meant for fapping above all else so keep the players eyes on that goal without distractions.
 

Dei-mos

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Well lets break it down a bit.

ART
Your new stuff is nice. I still dislike some of your model choices but I still find the asthetics enjoyable. just fix Sasha's arms in the bathroom scene since she has a curvy body and anorexic arms for some unkown reason. Personally I would think it a waste not to use some of the old photos and I would rather you did if it speeds up the development process content wise.

STORY
I will say the writing of the overall story is improved greatly. These tweaks do help quite a bit in understanding world building and the english is a massive bit bigger.

But when we get to individual characters, Things start to sort of wane a bit. Heres my viewpoint for what its worth.

The MC needs to decide what he wants to be. One minute hes loving and caring the next he's rapey. He's written to be whatever we want him to be for that scene, but it makes no contextual sense as a whole. If he progressed from some kind of Incel to a Alpha Dom that would be great, but right now he is all over the place in the story.

The MC and Sophie: This is rushed WAAAAYYYY too fast. I mean holy crap too fast. In love? the story cant decide if they are in a mutually beneficial relationship or madly in love. Sophie is a great potential character to be his guide, and she does this well so far. but the intimacy here needs to be a slow burn. Make that relationship grow into something more meaningful. I really like sohpie as a character and each iteration of the game has developed her character further to my liking. Its a shame she gets so rushed through what should be a major story arc in the game.

The other girls I know your reworking the story. Take you time and build that slow burn IMO. They are pretty well thought out characters but it would be nice to see them hanging around a bit more like they used to. It would make the world a bit more immersive if you see the girls doing stuff even if they arent really availible for romance.

Which brings me to the last little bit on characters. We have all these girls that tell us we cant get what we want unless we get X stat to Y variable. Ok. No Problem. But unfortunately you didnt bring in the payoff. If a player gets 150 popularity let him massage the girls ass, not "fuck you bitch im here for lunch." It may work for the MC, but remember the Player is the one playing and needs a reward. If you don't have one. Tell us it's not availible in the game so we know not to grind that out.

ENERGY AND MONEY

Ok so the money one I actually like, even when it bones me hard. I started the game in the hole and I didn't cheat myself any money. It can be pretty rewarding. Probably some minor tweaks here and there as the game goes and it will improve.

energy however is practically unneccessary. You have a limited number of actions per day and further limiting it by a depleting an energy bar that you have to hunt down to check is tedious and redundant. Pick one but not both. Honestly the day action limitations should be enough and the player is familiar with this system already. Being unique for the sake of Uniqueness isn't a good design choice and limitations are not meant to bring fun but to hinder it going into easy more. (something porn games really dont need to worry about anyways)

GAME MECHANICS

your RPG system is....well to put it nicely not that great. It makes no sense here. You are on an island with superior technology and I'm going to a cave to fight spiders and snakes to pick up what amounts to construction equipment? Pretty sure this isnt how the other families built their skyscrapers and I don't think the girls will be impressed with the treehouse clubhouse I'm going to build with my two hands in comparison. The combat is meh, the animations feel like Mortal Kombat 1, and I'm just really drowning Sophie in potions or game overing.

Try making it make more sense really. Why not fight baddies that make actual sense to the story? rival families. You can make up any number of minor ones that think the MC is easy prey and it would be much more interesting and immersive. The proposed crafting system isn't well placed here. try something more economical based. He should be focused on money, power, and dominance so building stuff is a fun idea but doesnt really fit at all.

This is really the wrong engine to make an RPG out of for killing spiders and slimes. RPGM does that perfectly without effort. Its not a bad idea, it just needs so better more thought out...well everything. Sorry. But it really does.

I know you think of this place as a pirate site but realistically this is where we go to find new games to support or play. before the zone you had the chans which is a mess to try and get through. And discussing games on on specific patreons is equally a mess. Especially now that so many have other means of making income and some start with no income model at all. This place really is the best place to talk games of this kind with like minded people. So please try to keep that in mind when you say things like "if you don't like it don't play it." these people are potentially patreons even if most are just here for free games.

As for why so many of us are disappointed.....well....You kinda burned some of us who were supporting you. I followed your game since you started at .01 and I thought it had a lot of merit. We saw you progress, then you went on hiatus, came back with a newer updated version that was well meh then again with a whole new UI, and here you are again after a year long hiatus for the same reasons. and we now have less progressive content than previous and the development is now on its 3rd year. When you compare it to games that development has started after, has better content and have completed or near completion, it doesn't take much to figure out why people are not thrilled with the state of development.

What you do with that bit of information is entirely up to you of course. Truth be told I would hate to see a game I once invested in never be completed, but I can't sanely invest in again until I see some real progress in the game besides adding in code I grabbed from Lemma Soft Forums (not knocking LemmaSoft, its a great place to learn Ren'Py)

Finally remember the words of Tommy Versetti in GTA: Vice City "keep the cameras pointed at the poontang" If your game isn't doing that, fix it to where it is. The game was meant for fapping above all else so keep the players eyes on that goal without distractions.
mosty agree with you
but i would say the changes were even unasked/unwanted

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and than again these games are mostly for having a good time playing 20h to see some action is hardly fun and this game decided to go full asia grinder without any purpose in that
reboot was completly broken, it got better and this version ? loose 500 strenght (not that you really use that stats fighting where it would matters isnt dependend on that and done by others, neither do you start to look fit or ripped )
and now its 50 ingame days to get that str back with breakfast that tells you you would gain 50 str but gives 10 and another 150 ingame days ontop to reach the 3k to buy the gym ?
1000 leather to fix a book cover from ants ? but not from giant spiders ...
since red dont level up you might fight 1 spider without potions + 200 for a 1 time use shovel
with too many fights you run out of cash and might not even make it back from the tavern
resulting in loading a game before entering the forrest to grind more money ?
and first lunchtime in this gameversion waved at me with the nice -5000 cash ...

respect for all playing this game without using tricks (i didnt use cheats but its still a save and load orgy )
without using anything of that i have the feeling the game would be downright unplayable since the penalities can run you in the ground faster than you can climb up again
and for those not ruined by penalities they need lootbox/slotmachine stuff that is the clothshop ? before pressing more money out of the MC with energy cell, potions or 1 time use spades/pick axes (and mostly these spades/pickaxes are more expensive than you earn with 1 action)
and hell yes this update gave us another (time) sink with the club eating our fame (my first reaction was: wtf entering a exclusive club and being seen there dont makes me more famous but less??? ) skipping through hundreds of ingames days for rl hours with pressed ctrl key isnt fun and perhaps the game shouldnt expect this from its players

its not about fun, its not about making the game better its about keeping the players busy while that might be a legit goal for triple A devs is there a reason for an adult game to have it ?
 
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Leocid2

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Well lets break it down a bit.

ART
Your new stuff is nice. I still dislike some of your model choices but I still find the asthetics enjoyable. just fix Sasha's arms in the bathroom scene since she has a curvy body and anorexic arms for some unkown reason. Personally I would think it a waste not to use some of the old photos and I would rather you did if it speeds up the development process content wise.

STORY
I will say the writing of the overall story is improved greatly. These tweaks do help quite a bit in understanding world building and the english is a massive bit bigger.

But when we get to individual characters, Things start to sort of wane a bit. Heres my viewpoint for what its worth.

The MC needs to decide what he wants to be. One minute hes loving and caring the next he's rapey. He's written to be whatever we want him to be for that scene, but it makes no contextual sense as a whole. If he progressed from some kind of Incel to a Alpha Dom that would be great, but right now he is all over the place in the story.

The MC and Sophie: This is rushed WAAAAYYYY too fast. I mean holy crap too fast. In love? the story cant decide if they are in a mutually beneficial relationship or madly in love. Sophie is a great potential character to be his guide, and she does this well so far. but the intimacy here needs to be a slow burn. Make that relationship grow into something more meaningful. I really like sohpie as a character and each iteration of the game has developed her character further to my liking. Its a shame she gets so rushed through what should be a major story arc in the game.

The other girls I know your reworking the story. Take you time and build that slow burn IMO. They are pretty well thought out characters but it would be nice to see them hanging around a bit more like they used to. It would make the world a bit more immersive if you see the girls doing stuff even if they arent really availible for romance.

Which brings me to the last little bit on characters. We have all these girls that tell us we cant get what we want unless we get X stat to Y variable. Ok. No Problem. But unfortunately you didnt bring in the payoff. If a player gets 150 popularity let him massage the girls ass, not "fuck you bitch im here for lunch." It may work for the MC, but remember the Player is the one playing and needs a reward. If you don't have one. Tell us it's not availible in the game so we know not to grind that out.

ENERGY AND MONEY

Ok so the money one I actually like, even when it bones me hard. I started the game in the hole and I didn't cheat myself any money. It can be pretty rewarding. Probably some minor tweaks here and there as the game goes and it will improve.

energy however is practically unneccessary. You have a limited number of actions per day and further limiting it by a depleting an energy bar that you have to hunt down to check is tedious and redundant. Pick one but not both. Honestly the day action limitations should be enough and the player is familiar with this system already. Being unique for the sake of Uniqueness isn't a good design choice and limitations are not meant to bring fun but to hinder it going into easy more. (something porn games really dont need to worry about anyways)

GAME MECHANICS

your RPG system is....well to put it nicely not that great. It makes no sense here. You are on an island with superior technology and I'm going to a cave to fight spiders and snakes to pick up what amounts to construction equipment? Pretty sure this isnt how the other families built their skyscrapers and I don't think the girls will be impressed with the treehouse clubhouse I'm going to build with my two hands in comparison. The combat is meh, the animations feel like Mortal Kombat 1, and I'm just really drowning Sophie in potions or game overing.

Try making it make more sense really. Why not fight baddies that make actual sense to the story? rival families. You can make up any number of minor ones that think the MC is easy prey and it would be much more interesting and immersive. The proposed crafting system isn't well placed here. try something more economical based. He should be focused on money, power, and dominance so building stuff is a fun idea but doesnt really fit at all.

This is really the wrong engine to make an RPG out of for killing spiders and slimes. RPGM does that perfectly without effort. Its not a bad idea, it just needs so better more thought out...well everything. Sorry. But it really does.

I know you think of this place as a pirate site but realistically this is where we go to find new games to support or play. before the zone you had the chans which is a mess to try and get through. And discussing games on on specific patreons is equally a mess. Especially now that so many have other means of making income and some start with no income model at all. This place really is the best place to talk games of this kind with like minded people. So please try to keep that in mind when you say things like "if you don't like it don't play it." these people are potentially patreons even if most are just here for free games.

As for why so many of us are disappointed.....well....You kinda burned some of us who were supporting you. I followed your game since you started at .01 and I thought it had a lot of merit. We saw you progress, then you went on hiatus, came back with a newer updated version that was well meh then again with a whole new UI, and here you are again after a year long hiatus for the same reasons. and we now have less progressive content than previous and the development is now on its 3rd year. When you compare it to games that development has started after, has better content and have completed or near completion, it doesn't take much to figure out why people are not thrilled with the state of development.

What you do with that bit of information is entirely up to you of course. Truth be told I would hate to see a game I once invested in never be completed, but I can't sanely invest in again until I see some real progress in the game besides adding in code I grabbed from Lemma Soft Forums (not knocking LemmaSoft, its a great place to learn Ren'Py)

Finally remember the words of Tommy Versetti in GTA: Vice City "keep the cameras pointed at the poontang" If your game isn't doing that, fix it to where it is. The game was meant for fapping above all else so keep the players eyes on that goal without distractions.
mosty agree with you
but i would say the changes were even unasked/unwanted

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
and than again these games are mostly for having a good time playing 20h to see some action is hardly fun and this game decided to go full asia grinder without any purpose in that
reboot was completly broken, it got better and this version ? loose 500 strenght (not that you really use that stats fighting where it would matters isnt dependend on that and done by others, neither do you start to look fit or ripped )
and now its 50 ingame days to get that str back with breakfast that tells you you would gain 50 str but gives 10 and another 150 ingame days ontop to reach the 3k to buy the gym ?
1000 leather to fix a book cover from ants ? but not from giant spiders ...
since red dont level up you might fight 1 spider without potions + 200 for a 1 time use shovel
with too many fights you run out of cash and might not even make it back from the tavern
resulting in loading a game before entering the forrest to grind more money ?
and first lunchtime in this gameversion waved at me with the nice -5000 cash ...

respect for all playing this game without using tricks (i didnt use cheats but its still a save and load orgy )
without using anything of that i have the feeling the game would be downright unplayable since the penalities can run you in the ground faster than you can climb up again
and for those not ruined by penalities they need lootbox/slotmachine stuff that is the clothshop ? before pressing more money out of the MC with energy cell, potions or 1 time use spades/pick axes (and mostly these spades/pickaxes are more expensive than you earn with 1 action)
and hell yes this update gave us another (time) sink with the club eating our fame (my first reaction was: wtf entering a exclusive club and being seen there dont makes me more famous but less??? ) skipping through hundreds of ingames days for rl hours with pressed ctrl key isnt fun and perhaps the game shouldnt expect this from its players

its not about fun, its not about making the game better its about keeping the players busy while that might be a legit goal for triple A devs is there a reason for an adult game to have it ?
Thank you for your opinions, I try to make the game better every day. As you know, I'm just a person who believes it and programs it. And that's why I can't have a lot of progress as you wish. To be honest with you, I prefer you to express your opinions on the Discord, and not on F95, I rarely see it, and the feedback is bad.
 

Aderod

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What's up with these girls appearing in gym in the upper left corner. I know that I managed to have fun with one of them, but what about the others?

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I just discovered that you can invite Elise and Willow for the night to MC house, and if you are lucky you can count on a happy ending :D
It is a pity that it is impossible for girls to come to the MC house permanently, but you have to talk to them every day. And it strange for me that Elena at this point don't sleep in MC bed.
 
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Dei-mos

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Thank you for your opinions, I try to make the game better every day. As you know, I'm just a person who believes it and programs it. And that's why I can't have a lot of progress as you wish. To be honest with you, I prefer you to express your opinions on the Discord, and not on F95, I rarely see it, and the feedback is bad.
is dicord even an option for non spanish speaking ppl ?

besides i think its a misconception if you want the ppl to play only your game and task them with grinding until you have a new version to offer

there are other games where stretched content is annoying but halfway understandable
in this case i fail to see it as anything as annoying

like i wrote before in this thread these games are about to have a good time not to be tasked/busy for the next 100-200h with mostly 1min long looped content (aka ingame day)
 
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