VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[BenMeiffert]

Doing something intimate with each other wouldn't make them lesbians. They're both very close friends so they already have a comfortable connection with each other which means that, if they found themselves in a situation where they were both in need of some kind of emotional comfort/validation, they could easily end up kissing or even going a bit further.

And if this wasn't between Bella and Jill, but for example Derek and MC, would that sound gay to you ?
Even if Bella and Jill are more attracted to men, I think being intimate with a person of the same sex is still a homo-act.

 

[ThePresident451]

Man, again with this blind hatred of Tommy. As soon as someone doesn't treat the MC like God down on Earth he/she gets immediately hated.

Of course, this never happens with female characters, the most obvious example being Heather: she literally treats the MC like shit, first time she says she doesn't talk with maggots (and I was done with her right after that), when you put a blanket on her she complains, and generally she always appears bitchy and angry. If anything Heather is a bigger moody cunt than Tommy, but guess what, nobody hates her.

The truth is, most people see a pair of boobs and a pussy and everything is forgiven. As someone already pointed out, if Tommy was Thomasina and Heather was Heath, the slogan would be #CuckHeath

So yeah, detesting Tommy while lusting on Heather is a big nonsense.

That said, if you think about it, Tommy is probably the second male character with more depth after Derek. He's portraited like the ultimate prick frat boy, but you have to be blind to not see that he's more than that. There are already a couple of clues, one on all that speech at the Pink Rose, which isn't casual.

I trust DPC with Tommy, I'm sure he has a specific plan set for him.

PS: Heather is ugly too! Really, she's nothing special, her body isn't that great compared to others and her face leaves much to be desired. Seriously, two bombs on her chest are enough to forget everything else?

 

[ExDeath730]

Ya so far I can't figure out what to make of Quinn. Throughout the game she's mostly been presented as antagonistic (the main exception I can think of is the roof scene), as if DPC is trying to make sure the audience has a mostly negative view of her. My suspicions, which could certainly be wrong I'll admit, are that DPC is setting us up to have a certain view of the character, so that he can then potentially pull the rug out from under us later by showing us a completely different side of Quinn. I suspect her involvement with these dealers is somehow forced or coerced, etc to at least some degree. Possibly because of a personal or a familial relationship with one or more of them; maybe she owes them, or is just trying to take care of them for some reason, etc. I personally hope we get an opportunity to white knight a little for Quinn with our actions in-game.

I've always enjoyed that trope of doing something really nice for someone who isn't particularly friendly in a story and then seeds of a relationship begin to develop because the unfriendly person is only unfriendly due to not really having many "good" relationships in the past, or carrying some degree of emotional baggage. I found her reaction noteworthy if MC tries to kiss her in her room if you stay at Sage's in Episode 4. That's a girl who is damaged emotionally (IMO) and doesn't know how to process empathy and positive emotional attachment and as a result rejects it even though there's an instinctual desire for it. I'd be curious to see how something might develop with Quinn if given the opportunity - could a relationship develop, and if so, could the MC influence her in a positive way to push her toward stopping what she's into...

Something to add is just to imagine a situation where, maybe the MC finds himself in a position to help Quinn out in some way due to finding out some pretty private stuff about her setup and from that point forward they develop a new level of closeness that only they know about and as a result the other characters in the game who are used to seeing them have outright animosity toward each other when together now start seeing them actually friendly with each other and around each other more. Talk about creating extra drama if Josy & Maya see MC around Quinn more, lol.

I can see DPC going for a redemption story with Quinn, but... I don't like it. I remember this movie from... The 90's or something, Reindeer Games, it was about a convict faking being his friend who died in prison to bang the girl that friend was corresponding with (she was played by Charlize Theron, can't really fault the guy) and getting involved with this girl's brother who wanted to rob a casino (Heat style). At the start the girl seemed like a very motivated hostage and later he discovers that she was one of the masterminds using him and knew he wasn't his friend from the start.

I really do prefer that Quinn goes that way, because it isn't something that happens a lot. I want her to be the real DIK route in itself, the main goal, and not in a redemption kind of way, i want her to be the seduction of the Dark Side to the MC. I want twists and turns and that at the end even if there is a softer side to her, she's only showing it to us, and probably after we beat her at her own game. So yeah, a redemption route is just something boring that is so common in media, that i prefer this to be a descent of the MC into another life.

About the Tommy-Quinn situation, i like both of the characters, so there's that, can't say much about everything, just that while Tommy is showing himself to be an asshole, Quinn is a criminal, whoever you prefer, will depend on your morals. As characters i like both of them, in real life? Tommy would be a safer bet. Women like Quinn always end up bringing a lot of trouble, i know from experience.

 

[BenMeiffert]

Her hair is a bit thicker than Sage's and her eyes aren't green, but otherwise she is a remarkably close match.

Yes, same body, even her face looks like Sage. Or maybe it's the contrary, Sage looks like ker !

 

[casual200102]

Best: Camila (nice juicy fat ass)
Worst: Lilly (just plain flat :/)

 

[Morghast]

I'm I the only one who wanted to head bunt Quinn right in her nose and then make her swallow her own teeth from day 1 I met her? The negative vibes this character has r enormous...

 

[wdsnap]

Best: Camila (nice juicy fat ass)
Worst: Lilly (just plain flat :/)

This right here. I really wish we get more Camila stuff in later episodes, I've really taken a liking to her. Also Sarah, there's something about her I really like.

 

[Blades1138]

I find the hidden depth/motivation to be a pretty piss-poor excuse for someone acting like a cunt, be it male or female. That's not how it works in real life, it's actually the other way around. I'm completely lost as to why people are applying reverse logic to this game other than justification or wishful thinking for a character they like. Which in itself is a very common thought pattern, but still doesn't make someone a jerk with a heart of gold.

 

[Cigar-Ferras]

I'm I the only one who wanted to head bunt Quinn right in her nose and then make her swallow her own teeth from day 1 I met her? The negative vibes this character has r enormous...

Strongly disliking or even hating her fair enough .... but shit dude, wanting to smash her face and teeth in .... that's a bit much don't you think? Whatever tickles your pickle i guess, but a tad excessive perhaps?

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Definitely can't do that to John-Boy. Now getting with Heather, that I can get behind! Besides, Heather clearly wants the MC:

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If anything happens with Elena I'm sure it will be with John Boy's approval. It would be the only way to have a MMF threesome that doesn't look NTRish.

On the other hand #CuckTommy

 

[wdsnap]

Yeah, Quinn's not cool. I tolerate her for the free weed, and the sex she provides is appreciated, but man, what a bitch. Also, Tommy's a dick, and I look forward to him getting a punch on the nose.

 

[Morghast]

Strongly disliking or even hating her fair enough .... but shit dude, wanting to smash her face and teeth in .... that's a bit much don't you think? Whatever tickles your pickle i guess, but a tad excessive perhaps?

Maybe the teeth took it 2 far but headbunting her nose just for the prostitution part its a small price to pay...

 

[Zirael Q]

Some people can't take someone fucking around with them apparently. I assume it's because when MC tries to insult her in the harshest way, she doesn't even get fazed. Not even a single reaction. She straiht up laughs at it, and this must piss you people off hahaha.
Instead I find this hilarious and interesting. Whatever, good luck with your damsels in distresses, very interesting characters indeed

 

[Morghast]

Well, that's not my case. Sometimes villains are just more entertaining than good guys and no matters how despicable they are, they still can have appreciable traits. I don't even speak of redeemable qualities but appealing traits. For example, both Ramsay Bolton and Joffrey Baratheon are psychopathic manchildren but Ramsay has dark humor, frightening presence and charisma while Joffrey is more of an annoying and entitled brat. So Ramsay is more entertaining to me.

Same thing for Quinn and Tommy. I like Quinn's provocative, snarky and "don't give a fuck" attitude. I like the fact she's, most of the time, unfazed and confident. Tommy on the other hand is too whiny for me. Diks and Alphas feud started with him but despite his big mouth, he doesn't have the balls to really face them or acting against them. He whines for drugs, he whines for his step-sister, he whines because bad bad Quinn hurt his feelings he whines for Rusty's dad money. He's more and more insecure every episode, I can't even take him seriously when he's pissed off. I don't even mind his hostility toward the MC but he bores me. I would rather pick Quinn over him even if she looked like the fat feminist.

But thanks god, she's hot like hell

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I usually don't play with the music either but there's nothing really sad with her themes. The tunes are more psychédelic, clearly evoking drugs and being high :

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But honestly music doesn't matter. DPC could have played this each time she appears :

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I would still pick her over Maya barbie girl

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What an excellent picture the last one could be if that good for nothing Quinn wasn't in the frame

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The difference (besides Quinn having a vagina) is that Quinn gets a lot of sad music and empty gazes during her cut-scenes. That paints her in a more sympathetic light, but the question is why. Is it to foreshadow that Quinn isn't that bad after all?

I would say, yes.

To this day I was not aware that Quinn gets a lot of sad music in her scenes since I play with the music turned off. And I must tell y'all that DPC is totally gaming you with this one. Like ename144 over here, I do not find Quinn sympathetic at all. And until this revelation I could not fathom why so many of you wanted to 'save' her. I think the situation is somehow similar to how you find certain jokes in sitcoms funnier if there is a laugh track.

I don't play with the music either but I'm still on the "save Quinn" bandwagon.

Ya so far I can't figure out what to make of Quinn. Throughout the game she's mostly been presented as antagonistic (the main exception I can think of is the roof scene), as if DPC is trying to make sure the audience has a mostly negative view of her. My suspicions, which could certainly be wrong I'll admit, are that DPC is setting us up to have a certain view of the character, so that he can then potentially pull the rug out from under us later by showing us a completely different side of Quinn. I suspect her involvement with these dealers is somehow forced or coerced, etc to at least some degree. Possibly because of a personal or a familial relationship with one or more of them; maybe she owes them, or is just trying to take care of them for some reason, etc. I personally hope we get an opportunity to white knight a little for Quinn with our actions in-game.

I've always enjoyed that trope of doing something really nice for someone who isn't particularly friendly in a story and then seeds of a relationship begin to develop because the unfriendly person is only unfriendly due to not really having many "good" relationships in the past, or carrying some degree of emotional baggage. I found her reaction noteworthy if MC tries to kiss her in her room if you stay at Sage's in Episode 4. That's a girl who is damaged emotionally (IMO) and doesn't know how to process empathy and positive emotional attachment and as a result rejects it even though there's an instinctual desire for it. I'd be curious to see how something might develop with Quinn if given the opportunity - could a relationship develop, and if so, could the MC influence her in a positive way to push her toward stopping what she's into...

Something to add is just to imagine a situation where, maybe the MC finds himself in a position to help Quinn out in some way due to finding out some pretty private stuff about her setup and from that point forward they develop a new level of closeness that only they know about and as a result the other characters in the game who are used to seeing them have outright animosity toward each other when together now start seeing them actually friendly with each other and around each other more. Talk about creating extra drama if Josy & Maya see MC around Quinn more, lol.

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And if this wasn't between Bella and Jill, but for example Derek and MC, would that sound gay to you ?
Even if Bella and Jill are more attracted to men, I think being intimate with a person of the same sex is still a homo-act.

Yes, because it's a different situation entirely. Straight women are more likely to kiss another woman than straight men ar to to kiss another man. Women are more inclined to recognise the attractiveness of other women and thus view kissing them as something fun and exciting, whereas men, specifically fully straight men, do not feel the same about other men. So if 2 apparently straight guys were to start making out willingly, then yeah, it would be a little bi/homo.

 

[Morghast]

Some people can't take someone fucking around with them apparently. I assume it's because when MC tries to insult her in the harshest way, she doesn't even get fazed. Not even a single reaction. She straiht up laughs at it, and this must piss you people off hahaha.
Instead I find this hilarious and interesting. Whatever, good luck with your damsels in distresses, very interesting characters indeed

While the wanna be villain got daddy issues was beaten as a child and now I'm mean to everyone is a much more original bad character story and the epitome of an interesting one... Well played sir.. well played.

 

[Zirael Q]

Also, no need to cover it with her prostutition stuff. It's not forced on anyone. There are HOTs not doing any of these at all. She offers an option to earn easy money, and she also profits from it, naturally. If they wanna stop, they easily can. But then they'll need to get that money with something else. Not to mention what kind of game is this Also it fits. It's just a way to avoid the scenarios in these games that every single girl in the game magically falls in love with MC and fuck his brains out.
Drug stuff is true tho, there's some shady shit there. We'll see where it goes.

 

[Zirael Q]

While the wanna be villain got daddy issues was beaten as a child and now I'm mean to everyone is a much more original bad character story and the epitome of an interesting one... Well played sir.. well played.

Lmao where did you even get that information? Running our imagination wild here, are we? We didn't see how she became how she is yet.
Also, wannabe villain my ass, what the actual hell? What kind of villainy are we talking about?
I was so close to ask for talking facts next time, but it's not existant in this thread, I forgot. We can just assume everyone's backstory and shit on them due to that. My bad

Now for the other comment. See, Riona and Camila works on restaurant as well, Riona also uses drugs. But Quinn gets bashed, meanwhile they are cool that's the hypocrisy I'm talking about. Thanks for the entertainment buddy heh, enjoyed this morning

 

[Morghast]

If they wanna stop, they easily can

I'm pretty sure there is a dialogue in the game stating the exact opposite but I'll have to replay it to find out... But I'm almost certain there is one where Quinn says some1 she can't back out or something like that.. but I'll have to recheck

 

[Zirael Q]

I'm pretty sure there is a dialogue in the game stating the exact opposite but I'll have to reply it to find out... But I'm almost certain there is one where Quinn says some1 she can't back out or something like that.. but I'll have to recheck

Sure they can, what's stopping them from backing out? They would even have the uhh what's the word here, upper hand? They could just drop the job and threaten her with exposing her business if she forces something on them.
She just doesn't want anyone to drop the job because it'd hurt her profits, simple. There's a difference to the wording there. Quinn saying something like "You can't quit now" doesn't mean it's not possible.