VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[shazba]

Loan/Tuition/Needing Money...It's all for the same purpose, and she brings it up a hell of a lot more than twice. It's part of her first conversation and her last conversation, and will be a major talking point in Season 3.

once in each chapter, maybe not in the fifth chapter.

You have to admit that it's a problem in the game. The Maya/Josy triangle and the Student Loan are central to the entire first season. And as I've said before, the way the story is written you have to be sympathetic to Maya or the story just doesn't make any sense. And it is fairly clear that a large percentage of the players do not like Maya.

Because I'm bordering on insane, I went back and checked, of Maya's 2,626 lines of dialogue (including branching sentences), she mentions her loan/funds/money/tuition etc. on 27 separate lines.

So pretty much 1% of her dialogue is talking about this shit directly. So lets say about 5% of her dialogue is about it since surrounding sentences are still possibly somewhat related.

I agree, that's a fuck ton of her sentences to be about the loan. That said, it is definitely my least favourite central thread in the game. It's long overstayed its welcome, and I hope it's resolved very soon.

Everything else currently is fun, or has potential for fun (even the Jill blackmail had the potential to see Tybalt suffer, and suffer he did!)

I think the hate Maya gets is because of the three-way relationship the mc has with her and maya.She used to be one of the most popular girl in the earlier episodes but it's been a steady decline in popularity.Alot of people want a Solo relationship with her but that can't happen and if it does happen in the future we will lose friendship with josy.which then again isn't fair to josy who has also tolerated alot of Maya snubbing.
It's a triangle of mess dpc has created which I don't think is fixable unless the story gets a little darker.

What's ironic is that eventually people will be praying for a house fire!

 

[mindern]

The thread had to be locked and purged the last time this topic came up.

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Which is why we need to change the damn subject.

Sage... Given how much of a big deal she made about Chad cheating she is awfully quick to gloss over her cheating with the MC.

Even if you assume she had a valid reason, namely he was cheating on her and neglecting her, she only once addresses her own infidelity and that was to use it as a stick to beat Chad with to get him to tell the truth. The MC has shown no issue with being with someone who's cheated in the past (4/5 of the main LI are or were in relationships) but I'd appreciate some sort of comment on it.

Would Sage stay faithful if she went long distance with the MC? It's her final year. They could be separated. She has shown she can't keep it in her pants all that well. DPC would never have her cheat on the MC but he’s awful quick to shack up with someone who not only cheated, but also indicated he was her second choice. She’s was pretty cut up about Chad and said herself she never saw the MC that way until he was out of the picture.

If I was the MC I’d have concerns about how faithful she is. At the very least it’s proven her fidelity is based on being happy and she is willing to stay with someone but cheat if she has to.

 

[ChipLecsap]

New Being a Dik drinking game: Drink every time Maya mentions the loan.

I better game would be, drink everytime when someone who dislike maya, ranting about how much he dislike her. .

 

[felicemastronzo]

Which is why we need to change the damn subject.

Sage... Given how much of a big deal she made about Chad cheating she is awfully quick to gloss over her cheating with the MC.

Even if you assume she had a valid reason, namely he was cheating on her and neglecting her, she only once addresses her own infidelity and that was to use it as a stick to beat Chad with to get him to tell the truth. The MC has shown no issue with being with someone who's cheated in the past (4/5 of the main LI are or were in relationships) but I'd appreciate some sort of comment on it.

Would Sage stay faithful if she went long distance with the MC? It's her final year. They could be separated. She has shown she can't keep it in her pants all that well. DPC would never have her cheat on the MC but he’s awful quick to shack up with someone who not only cheated, but also indicated he was her second choice. She’s was pretty cut up about Chad and said herself she never saw the MC that way until he was out of the picture.

If I was the MC I’d have concerns about how faithful she is. At the very least it’s proven her fidelity is based on being happy and she is willing to stay with someone but cheat if she has to.

from that point of view Mc must really have a great optimism... loyallty is not the main value of LIs...

unfortunately on Sage it's impossible to give a real judgement as her story with Chad is completely artificial.

we know that Sage has been aiming at him since she was a freshman, and this doesn't help Sage at all, who seems to pursue a status symbol more than a real relationship (and in fact she tries to "improve" MC's status a lot too).

whether the relationship started right away or Sage had to win him over the hard way, why would she put up with all that emotional cold?

except for very particular situations how many sexual denials is a girl willing to endure before looking elsewhere? in my opinion it hardly comes to more than a week.

whether the story with Chad has been long or short doesn't change much, if it's long you can't understand why Sage endured so much, if it's short you can't understand why she cares so much anyway.

Sage looks like a girl who can't stop wanting what she wants, there's no pride holding her back, she's willing to make any sacrifice to get what she wants. so she keeps hoping Chad will open up to her, and in the same way, if rejected, she keeps looking for MC, up to declaring she wants to be informed if he's available for her.

Even in her relationship with Quinn she confirms the same inflexibility, trusting her no matter what.

 

[Killerwhale5678]

What's ironic is that eventually people will be praying for a house fire!

 

[ChipLecsap]

You have to admit that it's a problem in the game. The Maya/Josy triangle and the Student Loan are central to the entire first season. And as I've said before, the way the story is written you have to be sympathetic to Maya or the story just doesn't make any sense. And it is fairly clear that a large percentage of the players do not like Maya.

I kind of disagree. The Josy/Maya thing is not a really a big problem, there is no drama from there, at least yet. May be later, as either Maya or Josy, but Josy may be more, start to fall for the MC and etc etc. but that is just one side

Without Maya, the whole Quinn, and restaurant, and free tuition and Burke would not be as impactful. Maya is the engine for this.
to simplify it, Just like without Jill , the preps and Tybalt has no meaning for MC, and for the players. That is why we have no deeper connection to the Nerd, because there isnt a Nerd girl in the main girl roster, therefor MC has no meaningful connection to them.

Maya is the key Why Quinn is exist , Quinn fans should be grateful

 

[OFT]

I better game would be, drink everytime when someone who dislike maya, ranting about how much he dislike her. .

 

[Cabin Fever]

BTW, Someone wanted Best Girl Josy , in School girl outfit like Jill, well raizen86 once again Delivered.

 

[mindern]

Sage looks like a girl who can't stop wanting what she wants, there's no pride holding her back, she's willing to make any sacrifice to get what she wants. so she keeps hoping Chad will open up to her, and in the same way, if rejected, she keeps looking for MC, up to declaring she wants to be informed if he's available for her.

Thing is, her line about never seeing the MC that way means it was largely just sex for her. The threshold for taking what she wants regardless of her partner is kinda low.

It means she was willing to cheat on Chad purely for sex. She’s willing to outwardly pursue “just sex” publicly such as at the DIK party early on (where Jacob steps in). Not even social pressure to appear faithful is an issue for her. That’s a really low threshold for her to cheat.

I’ve always had a massive issue with the line about her never seeing the MC that way. It’s out of character with her previous actions and it throws up all sorts of questions. It cheapens the MC and hers relationship. It’s a small thing but Bella can point to genuinely developing feelings for the MC. Josy has a (albeit short) history with the MC and cites a connection and chemistry even back at the supermarket job. Maya has never felt this way about a guy and even Josy admits it’s a big deal how Maya feels and she says that as the betrayed partner.

Sage just wanted some dick and doubles down later saying that’s all he was to her. Id take anything at this point to justify it. Even Sage vocalising how she just did it, at first, for attention she wasn’t getting elsewhere and apologising for using the MC like that but reaffirming she started to fall for him.

Better than using MC as a human sex toy and only consciously seeing him as more once Chad was gone. For the record she’s my second favourite LI. I just think this needs addressing.

 

[Kellermann]

I like Jill but the big Oppais are counterproductive for me, they remind me all the time this is a videogame 3D model. I like girls with more natural body types like Josy, Quinn, Sarah, Elena etc. And I agree sometimes her face is creepy, only a hardcore fan will deny that, I remember a scene (I think it was the picnic) and then a bad render comes up and I was thinking wtf is wrong with this girl lol. And she uses a lot of eyeliner even when sleeping, but most of the time she is a beauty.

I don't think Jill's oppais are that big. They are a tad on the stiff side, but completely average in size, especially as far as AVNs go. And small jubblies does not necessarily = natural. I've seen plenty of non-fat women IRL with massive natural cans. I do like the overall look of Quinn's toned body in particular, but I'm ok with all different bewb sizes from flat-chested Sally up to Bella and beyond. What I don't like is the exaggerated (tiny) waistline, particularly of Bella. It's a primary reason I don't fancy that character. It's like you said, it constantly reminds me that this is a 3D model. I now realise why I very much like the morning after Bella in this shot below...

The shirt mostly hides her insanely small waist and thus she looks like an actual human female. Still has the bobblehead thing going on though.

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P.S. Agree with you on the oddness of Jill wearing her war paint even to bed. Her cement mixture doesn't even really come off in shower! But hey, raccoon gotta raccoon.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Thing is, her line about never seeing the MC that way means it was largely just sex for her. The threshold for taking what she wants regardless of her partner is kinda low.

It means she was willing to cheat on Chad purely for sex. She’s willing to outwardly pursue “just sex” publicly such as at the DIK party early on (where Jacob steps in). Not even social pressure to appear faithful is an issue for her. That’s a really low threshold for her to cheat.

I’ve always had a massive issue with the line about her never seeing the MC that way. It’s out of character with her previous actions and it throws up all sorts of questions. It cheapens the MC and hers relationship. It’s a small thing but Bella can point to genuinely developing feelings for the MC. Josy has a (albeit short) history with the MC and cites a connection and chemistry even back at the supermarket job. Maya has never felt this way about a guy and even Josy admits it’s a big deal how Maya feels and she says that as the betrayed partner.

Sage just wanted some dick and doubles down later saying that’s all he was to her. Id take anything at this point to justify it. Even Sage vocalising how she just did it, at first, for attention she wasn’t getting elsewhere and apologising for using the MC like that but reaffirming she started to fall for him.

Better than using MC as a human sex toy and only consciously seeing him as more once Chad was gone. For the record she’s my second favourite LI. I just think this needs addressing.

in that moment Sage is completely into Chad, thinking that she's cheating on him just to get him back is a very feminine thought, but all in all believable. so yes, technically MC is just a sex toy, which she cares about, but that's it.

if Chad was the least bit interested, MC wouldn't stand a chance.

in my experience, i've always said that a relationship like Mc's with Sage destroys you psychologically, there's nothing worse than being interested in a girl blindly in love with someone who's obviously not interested and doesn't do anything to deserve it.

then in this sexual hunger, Sage discovers that her affective hunger can be satisfied too, which she seems not even interested in... maybe she didn't even know she needed it

 

[felicemastronzo]

P.S. Agree with you on the oddness of Jill wearing her war paint even to bed. Her cement mixture doesn't even really come off in shower! But hey, raccoon gotta raccoon.

Bella comes out of the shower (after a furious oral sex session) with Mc with her eye make-up perfectly in order

 

[kcaldw]

Will the MC ever get the chance to fuck Heather? She may be a stuck up bitch but it would be nice to fuck her just to fuck Tommy over. He may be our father in the fraternity but he's a complete asshole especially towards her.

 

[Kellermann]

(after a furious oral sex session)

The wording of that is hilarious to read

 

[mightybored]

Will the MC ever get the chance to fuck Heather? She may be a stuck up bitch but it would be nice to fuck her just to fuck Tommy over. He may be our father in the fraternity but he's a complete asshole especially towards her.

I wouldn't be surprised, since they are all but saying that MC will replace Tommy, but she may also be a speed bump in Sage or Quinn's path too.

 

[akdemir2]

do you guys where is this one? its the only one left

 

[Kellermann]

Will the MC ever get the chance to fuck Heather? She may be a stuck up bitch but it would be nice to fuck her just to fuck Tommy over. He may be our father in the fraternity but he's a complete asshole especially towards her.

Bro, I've been striving for this righteous goal since I first learned Heather was Tommy's lady. I thought for sure it would happen in ep. 8, but I was disappointed. Rest assured though, it will happen. I am almost as interested in the look of horror on Tommy's face when he discovers the truth as I am with the actual sex with Heather. My only fear is that Tommy is actually a cuck who won't mind, thus ruining the action. Also, I'm worried that if it takes too much longer, the couple will have broken up by the time we get Heather in bed...again ruining half the fun.

 

[DarkKiller]

Bella comes out of the shower (after a furious oral sex session) with Mc with her eye make-up perfectly in order

Yeah, that always bothered me quite a lot, also, in EP8 she freaking sleeps with make-up on and in the next morning she already has perfect make-up, different nail painting and got breakfast done, to then proceed and have raging sex on the dinner table, all this on a Sunday ffs!




In EP1 DPC actually went through the trouble of removing it but I can't remember another scene where he did it.
Perhaps it's too time consuming to be tinkering not only with her hair but also her make-up all the time. If that's the reason I can deal with it. It's better than having to delay chapters for another week or two just because of these little details.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah, that always bothered me quite a lot, also, in EP8 she freaking sleeps with make-up on and in the next morning she already has perfect make-up, different nail painting and got breakfast done, to then proceed and have raging sex on the dinner table, all this on a Sunday ffs!

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In EP1 DPC actually went through the trouble of removing it but I can't remember another scene where he did it.
Perhaps it's too time consuming to be tinkering not only with her hair but also her make-up all the time. If that's the reason I can deal with it. It's better than having to delay chapters for another week or two just because of these little details.

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but in that case we can give her the benefit of the doubt.

she could have woken up early and fixed her make-up.

Instead, from oral sex, to the shower, to the mattress on the floor, it's non-stop.

 

[Heycock]

Since arguments go clean through the heads of Maya-haters, and them instead prefer to repeat the same sentences again and again, and since I am as tired of this argument like any other guy here, except Maya haters it seems, I will just make a statement.

Maya is not stupid, ahs is not manipulative, neither a liar, and she is not a damsel in distress. To read any of thoose things is to not understand a simple text.

And Maya fans dont want to see her failing. On the contrary we want her to succed. And that's a personal provocation, btw, to many people in this forum, in a moment where even meanwhile we are under attack, we still avoided personal attacks over Maya haters. This is another example as who broke every truce we have made in this thread.

The main argument for this is a poll, with questionable legitimacy, and the incorrect premise that people voted the best character instead of the best porn fetish.

Maya backlash has proven to be a combination of homophobic alt right wings (and who can still deny me this that after J.A.L, as idiot as he is he had a lot of support for a long time), NTL hysteria, and other things who spoke more about porn addicts than about Maya itself.