VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DivineMachine]

I'd say some are good additions, my favorite one is from the MC finally getting the DIK jacket, that animation felt earned.

Sure, some could be replaced by simple renders, but some are good additions in my opinion.

Ok, I didn't exactly mean all of them. I agree, getting jacket was good. Also minigames like pancakes is fine. I was more talking stuff like animated bear drinking in I believe was outro scene in ep8 or 9, can't remember, where it could simply be a render of people with beers in their hands, it would change nothing about the tone at all. There are quite a few examples I thought were completely unnecessary or even thought they would be better as just renders, but I can't remember them all now, it's been some time since I played.

 

[Candy Suxx]

Thing is though, he already has what, 8 machines? 9? I don't know anymore. But eventually, adding more machines will require him to to upgrade his power junction box to an industrial one. I mean can you imagine how much power he's already sucking down from the local power grid with all of his 4090ti's? those cards are power hungry whores...

It's not really about the workstation but more about man power. At the end of the day its just one dude making those thousands of renders and hundreds of animations. Each episode has increased significantly both in terms of these, longer animations ( he recently has decided to go for 60fps ones).

He has already stated clean and clear that he will never hire a team for whatever creative reasons so yeah he can have dozens of workstation but its just one guy working on the heavy stuff. The same goes for Ocean ( Summer's Gone).

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

It's not really about the workstation but more about man power. At the end of the day its just one dude making those thousands of renders and hundreds of animations. Each episode has increased significantly both in terms of these, longer animations ( he recently has decided to go for 60fps ones).

He has already stated clean and clear that he will never hire a team for whatever creative reasons so yeah he can have dozens of workstation but its just one guy working on the heavy stuff. The same goes for Ocean ( Summer's Gone).

That wasn't my point, but ok......

 

[doovel]

Like you said, its eye candy that could have been achived with interpolation. I respect DPC since his game is my favorite, but you can't deny he fucked up with that decision (60fps).

I'd say some are good additions, my favorite one is from the MC finally getting the DIK jacket, that animation felt earned.

Sure, some could be replaced by simple renders, but some are good additions in my opinion.

Very true, DPC really should build more PCs to speed things up a bit.

Do we have any clue how many render machines DPC has? Honestly a 19" rack with several render servers should be achievable with the budget he has, add good 10gbit ethernet and a dope workstation. He should be Golden and basically be able to render anything he does within a reasonable time frame.

I do think people stare too much at the amount of renders in the game. You should realistically quadruple or quintuple those numbers for the amount of actual renders he's probably done and selected what he deemed best out of those.

I imagine the same with the animations, sometimes he's probably looking at the result thinking it's not up to snuff. So he'll end up binning hours of work and hours of rendering time.

All that is to say, he does have an incentive to upgrade his production capacity. I've seen that repeated a few times in the thread, though not by you. I don't agree with that assesment.

 

[Deleted member 3541029]

Why does one need more PCs to speed up?
If speed is of the essence - than one can buy time on a render farm.
It will cut profit though.
But in this project speed of production doesn't matter. People will pay regardless.

 

[doovel]

Thing is though, he already has what, 8 machines? 9? I don't know anymore. But eventually, adding more machines will require him to to upgrade his power junction box to an industrial one. I mean can you imagine how much power he's already sucking down from the local power grid with all of his 4090ti's? those cards are power hungry whores...

Does he have his render farm at home? You can get it upgraded as a consumer, but it's rather limited when compared to businesses.

I have a 4090 myself for rendering, it takes about 230~300W when rendering. Don't know about 4090TIs, afaik those aren't out (yet?).

So that multiplied by 8 is already 2400W. That's ignoring additional draw from the CPU and the rest of the system, and ignoring peak current. He'll have to divide that over multiple groups, and even then it's likely to trip with peak current.

Regular connections are 3x25A in most European countries, with a max of 3x35A for households.

I imagine he has a high voltage connection which would be 400 Volts, so a phase would be able to handle 35A*400V or 14000W. That is assuming he has that. And assuming I'm not wrong, as I'm not an electrician. I'm also not Swedish so the regulations are hard to look up.

I imagine he would be quite limited by max power draw as a consumer, not to mention the additional costs for drawing that amount of power and having to pay taxes over that.

 

[doovel]

Why does one need more PCs to speed up?
If speed is of the essence - than one can buy time on a render farm.
It will cut profit though.
But in this project speed of production doesn't matter. People will pay regardless.

It's quite expensive. Looking at irendering, it's $42 per hour for iray. Or $33.6 per hour if he rents the server per week. Which would be $5644.80 per week.

 

[doovel]

It's not really about the workstation but more about man power. At the end of the day its just one dude making those thousands of renders and hundreds of animations. Each episode has increased significantly both in terms of these, longer animations ( he recently has decided to go for 60fps ones).

He has already stated clean and clear that he will never hire a team for whatever creative reasons so yeah he can have dozens of workstation but its just one guy working on the heavy stuff. The same goes for Ocean ( Summer's Gone).

If you have to lead a team when that's really not in your wheelhouse and maintain your creative vision as well as your individual creativity. That could very well result in a much worse game than what we're getting now. Just look at what happened with FreshWomen.

 

[ProxyGist]

Not true, check this report from August, thee we were informed that 237 animations were done, this week the animations should finish tomorrow or wesnesday, the final number should be 331 according to @mpa71 data.

That means the DPC took over 3 months to render around 100 animations.

So no, rendering all animations will take quite a bit more than 2 months, even if they were all 30fps.

That's not what I meant. Right now we are waiting about a month because of 60 fps animations, probably at 400 animations the wait time will increase to 2 months. Besides DPС himself says that rendering 60 fps animations is slightly faster than before, that is essentially nothing has changed.
I do not think that development will increase to a year and a half, at most a year and two or three months.

 

[doovel]

The cloth looks great compared to that crackhead wearing it. Jesus that model's face has not aged well in relative to render quality

It's the weird glossy teeth that look more like porcelain.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Does he have his render farm at home? You can get it upgraded as a consumer, but it's rather limited when compared to businesses.

I can't say with 100% certainty, but a few times he's made announcements like the one below. I can't seem to find the status update where he mentions how many machines in total he's got rendering. But all indications seem to point at he's rendering everything under his own roof.

Sure he could go spend money on a rendering farm. But that just ends up costing him money. If he's doing this at home as I suspect he is, then when he's done he can recover some of his expenses when he's finished by selling some of these machines off.

I can't imagine how much his power bill must be, specially during the summer. Can you imagine the heat all his machines must produce? He surely must also be running some Air Conditioning as well in the summer. lol

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It was a pretty shitty week regarding health, but I feel much better now.

As you saw, I completed the PC upgrades earlier this week, and everything is rendering smoothly.

I've mostly been focusing on animations this week, trying to stack up more animations in the render queue, and I completed another lewd scene while doing so. I'm closing in on the 200 posed animations milestone, which feels nice. The new PCs have finished rendering several longer animations pretty damned fast too.

I've written some dialogue and posed static renders too. I also played a bit of the episode and added more music and sound effects.

I'm working through a free-roam event, going from scene to scene and creating the art. Today I prepared most of the characters for the scenes, and I will continue to work on the environments to be able to pose loads of static renders in a go next week.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

A part of me wants to feel bad for Chad. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, he keeps lying about his relationship with Troy so the other Jocks don't make fun of him for being gay. I would try to bury the hatchet with Chad if possible. If Dawe wasn't such a homophobic asshole, it would be easier for Chad to admit to cheating on Sage which would in turn give her the closure she needs.

#FuckYouDawe

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Chad is a rotten cunt. He was just using Sage as material, being a fucking coward. He stole at least a year of her life. He couldn't even stand up for her in that scene when Dawe said, "Look, that bitch is running back." What? For such words, Dawe had to kiss the concrete while lying face down in the next second. Even if he doesn't care about Sage (and he doesn't care), she's officially his ex-girlfriend and such disrespect can't be tolerated. But Dave, in his words, is a “good guy.” Negative IQ, hello.
He can't protect Troy. Just a pathetic person. I have a zero respect for Chad, but let it remain on his conscience and live with him.

 

[ProxyGist]

I can't say with 100% certainty, but a few times he's made announcements like the one below. I can't seem to find the status update where he mentions how many machines in total he's got rendering. But all indications seem to point at he's rendering everything under his own roof.

Sure he could go spend money on a rendering farm. But that just ends up costing him money. If he's doing this at home as I suspect he is, then when he's done he can recover some of his expenses when he's finished by selling some of these machines off.

I can't imagine how much his power bill must be, specially during the summer. Can you imagine the heat all his machines must produce? He surely must also be running some Air Conditioning as well in the summer. lol

You can't render 18+ content on most render farms.Also I don't think his current setup is weaker than render farms. It would be easier to just buy a few more computers and connect them to a shared network.

 

[doovel]

You can't render 18+ content on most render farms.Also I don't think his current setup is weaker than render farms. It would be easier to just buy a few more computers and connect them to a shared network.

I also wonder how it's supposed to work with assets you bought, can you even use such a server if you're using assets you didn't create yourself?

 

[DivineMachine]

That's not what I meant. Right now we are waiting about a month because of 60 fps animations, probably at 400 animations the wait time will increase to 2 months. Besides DPС himself says that rendering 60 fps animations is slightly faster than before, that is essentially nothing has changed.
I do not think that development will increase to a year and a half, at most a year and two or three months.

I mean 15 month wait is pretty absurd as well. If I had to pay for the game (I did support him for a while when I first started playing years ago), I definitely wouldn't even bother playing it until entire game was out and then make one time purchase and play the whole thing. But well, not my place to judge I guess as I'm not a paying customer anymore and it looks like it's working for him, considering the amount of patreon supporters he has.

 

[doovel]

100% DPC knows the Patreons are a bunch of suckers. The saying goes "There's a sucker born every minute and I am going to take him for all he's worth" Those are the ones on Patreons. I would milk these idiots too.

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He actually treats his Patreons like shit. Poor SomboSteel can attest to that.

Yes, it's for the best he doesn't hire a team. He should hire a writer...... Imagine working for him? I'd strangle him.

I heard DPC is actually build like Chad.

 

[doovel]

I mean 15 month wait is pretty absurd as well. If I had to pay for the game (I did support him for a while when I first started playing years ago), I definitely wouldn't even bother playing it until entire game was out and then make one time purchase and play the whole thing. But well, not my place to judge I guess as I'm not a paying customer anymore and it looks like it's working for him, considering the amount of patreon supporters he has.

That and good steam sales, it's what I will do once he releases the next season on Steam. Just buy it there. Support the result not the process.

 

[Deleted member 5515203]

I can't imagine how much his power bill must be, specially during the summer. Can you imagine the heat all his machines must produce? He surely must also be running some Air Conditioning as well in the summer. lol

His entire setup has to look absolutely ridiculous at this point. It must look something like a small command central in a CIA safe-house or alternatively one of those summer camps at home that pro CS teams use for LAN practice. Maybe he's got a little pink themed rgb setup going? Def needs air con in the summer.

In fact come to think of it, his electrical bill, streams of money from abroad, and his reclusive habits might've actually triggered the Swedish counter intelligence service to take a brief look at him, only to discover that he's only guilty of tiddy manufacturing lmao

 

[bloodyasura]

We don't know who is exactly on this preview, but I'm sure that the man hand belongs to MC, not Neil at least. Lynette was not married, they run away and she became pregnant and died after giving birth to MC w/o being married with Nail. It also could be James and young Bella, but wedding ring looks different, so, probably no go too. Jade, Nora, Bianca - are more likely candidates, imo.

Lynette ALIVE!!!!!!

 

[ProxyGist]

He will not cut on dev time, why would he ? He found a perfect business model - also he trained his core supporters to expect 1 release per year.


This way he gets 50-52 weeks to do whatever he wants. Also, the guy is a huge control freak, he tried to takeover r/badik, when guys who created it told him no, he acted like a bitch. Imagine working for that guy ? I could last maybe 10 days on a job, and then I would end up in jail for assault.

We can discuss things here, but in the end it wont change anything - like I said he found his perfect business model. So If I could give advice to people is to just relax, chill, shitpost for lols and get on with your life.

That's not true. If he released updates more often, he could make more money. The long timelines are caused by strange and often wrong decisions and his structure of the game.