Porthas

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DPC practically doubled the development time for no real reason or excuse like 60 fps. Complaints have been far too moderate.
So people here have to bitch harder? What does that look like? :LOL:

Like I've said before, the current pay system doesn't incentivize speedy work. So unless he starts losing subscribers left and right, he's got a set income for years. I don't know many people who could resist that kind of setup and cut the development time in half then risk that subscriber base on a new game they may not like.

I don't like the development time either. But I don't think just complaining about it will accomplish anything.
 
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I figure for Zoey to be a decision aid ("LI" or "OTHERS" and backup relationship for the player of the MC on the "OTHERS" branch. I wrote a long time ago that Zoey could be a backup.

The MC can probably only get back into a relationship with Zoey if he doesn't have a relationship with a LI. Zoey is a backup. Interlude gives the player the chance to play out Zoey's affinity. The player can therefore also decide what kind of Zoey they want if they don't have an LI.
Maybe, but it's apparent to me the dev sees:

drama = entertainment

So I don't think Zoey will sit in the background as a "pick me" girl in case one of the main LI's gets dropped or something. I'm betting she will stir some shit up.

But I'm not a mind reader, it could work out as how you think it may. We'll see.
 

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So people here have to bitch harder? What does that look like? :LOL:

Like I've said before, the current pay system doesn't incentivize speedy work. So unless he starts losing subscribers left and right, he's got a set income for years. I don't know many people who could resist that kind of setup and cut the development time in half then risk that subscriber base on a new game they may not like.

I don't like the development time either. But I don't think just complaining about it will accomplish anything.
Complaining like praising something does not have to have an effect, it is simply the manifestation of a feeling, that is what it is for.

If I want to go for a walk and it rains I complain about it, it's not like I expect my curses to sweep the clouds. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Then I agree with the patreon mechanism, but to go from 6 months to 11 is a huge leap, which has been completely swallowed up. Even before, times were expanding and we were complaining about it, but by days, by weeks, not by months
 

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Complaining like praising something does not have to have an effect, it is simply the manifestation of a feeling, that is what it is for.

If I want to go for a walk and it rains I complain about it, it's not like I expect my curses to sweep the clouds. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Yes but you didn't answer my question. What does complaining harder on this forum look like? I mean, people complain A LOT. Nobody likes waiting a year for the next chapter to come out. Want the board to be spammed with gifs like this or something?

angry asian woman kung fu hustle.gif

:ROFLMAO:
 

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To draw objective conclusions about further development cycles and some kind of statistics, we must wait for the release of episodes 11 and 12 and see how long it takes. It is extremely premature to call something a trend now. The development of the 9th episode really took less time, because the work on the interlude also took time. So if you combine the interlude with episode 9, then combine the number of renders and animations too to be objective. Everyone became such an experts and foretellers after episodes 9 and 10. Where they all was for the first two seasons?

The math:

Interlude: 794 renders + 36 animations
Episode 9: 5037 renders + 303 animations
Int + EP9 combined: 5831 renders + 339 animations
EP10: 5868 renders + 335 animations

EP8 release date: Nov 19, 2021
EP9 release date: Dec 16, 2022
EP10 release date: Dec, 8, 2023

What's happened between EP8 and EP9 releases on the DPCs side? He passed through a lot of troubles and personal stuff at first. At second, he had to prepare the Season 2 release on Steam, such things takes time too. What else? The whole and a new "branching" system and part of the game. Brand new mini-games (you may like them or not, it's pointless to discuss, it's HIS game), etc. But still, he had managed to make a release in 13 months.

What's happened between EP9 and EP10 releases of the DPCs side? He had to took a vacation to vent a bit after years of development. He spent a lot of time on hardware upgrades too. Almost half of EP10 was made on old equipment, so the progress was slower than it would be if he had 4090s rigs in Dec, 22. What eventually? 12 months release. Safe to say that it could be a 10-11 months one, just taking in mind his 2-weeks vacation and time he used to upgrade/add rigs.

Static renders, scenes and branching doesn't slow the process that much. The animations does. He always manages his development it in the way, that his rigs constantly have to render something - mostly animations, because static renders may be produced ALL in a few weeks, posing takes much more time, but it's still simpler than doing animations, especially in DAZ3D.

In short, we have to wait and check out how it goes with EP11-EP12 this time to make any really accurate and objective conclusions, according to new episodes size, renders and animations numbers, etc. Too much negative foretellers lately. It's hard to stay optimistic, but always easy to stick to pessimistic trends and spread it around. But you'd better to stay realistic at least.

Just cut the crap, like he is milking or prolonging it purposely to earn more money. He is already millionaire. If he hadn't been fanatically devoted to his idea, he would have abandoned this game long ago, and not continued development with so much money on hands. To have so much money and continue to invest almost all your time (years!) into development - this indicates its real goals and qualities.

He wants to bring his idea to life and do everything he has in mind and implement it in the way he want. And judging by the public interest in the game, which has not faded away for so many years, but on the contrary is only gaining momentum - he is doing everything right.
 
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Just cut the crap, like he is milking or prolonging it purposely to earn more money. He is already millionaire.
No amount of bluster changes the fact that Patreon does not incentivize quick development of a project. People work for their own best self interests, this doesn't make them evil. It makes them normal. So if he feels he can "get away with" making each chapter at a leisurely pace and still earn a large income, he'll most likely do it. I would. Just about anybody would. So don't take this as some kind of personal attack on anyone.

"He is already a millionaire" isn't really an argument. One has only to toss a rock and you'll hit a bunch of rich dudes and dudette's working on getting richer. And they should. This is also perfectly natural and based on self interest.
 
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Yes but you didn't answer my question. What does complaining harder on this forum look like? I mean, people complain A LOT. Nobody likes waiting a year for the next chapter to come out. Want the board to be spammed with gifs like this or something?

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:ROFLMAO:
I do not understand the question... I don't want anything. But given that it's a thread where there are pages and pages on any topic the fact that the doubling of development time has been digested quite serenely surprises me, and I find that DPC with the interlude has nailed it. That's all
 

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I do not understand the question... I don't want anything. But given that it's a thread where there are pages and pages on any topic the fact that the doubling of development time has been digested quite serenely surprises me, and I find that DPC with the interlude has nailed it. That's all
You said, " Complaints have been far too moderate."

So I was asking what an acceptable level of complaints looked like to you. That's all.
 

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No amount of bluster changes the fact that Patreon does not incentivize quick development of a project. People work for their own best self interests, this doesn't make them evil. It makes them normal. So if he feels he can "get away with" making each chapter at a leisurely pace and still earn a large income, he'll most likely do it. I would. Just about anybody would. So don't take this as some kind of personal attack on anyone.

"He is already a millionaire" isn't really an argument. One has only to toss a rock and you'll hit a bunch of rich dudes and dudette's working on getting richer. And they should. This is also perfectly natural and based on self interest.
You wouldn't spend years of the best part of your life in SUCH way if you ALREADY millionaire if you're not really invested in idea and obsessed with it. You may have find the much casual and less time consuming ways to multiply your finances if you so want it. There is no need to confuse goals and concepts.

He works alone, it's a solo man project. And surprisingly it's one of the best on the "market" for years and so far. In terms of content, in terms of quality, in terms of plot, and it's "size" in general. And hurrying him in any way may just make it worse and force him to simplify things, cut the content, cut the ideas he had been planned for the game. It doesn't worth it.
 
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Check the Summertime Saga thread ;)
You wouldn't spend years of the best part of your life in SUCH way if you ALREADY millionaire if you're not really invested in idea and obsessed with it. You may have find the much casual and less time consuming ways to multiply your finances if you so want it. There is no need to confuse goals and concepts.

He works alone, it's a solo man project. And surprisingly it's one of the best on the "market" for years and so far. In terms of content, in terms of quality, in terms of plot, and it's "size" in general. And hurrying him in any way may just make it worse and force him to simplify things, cut the content, cut the ideas he had been planned for the game. It doesn't worth it.
Interestingly, the reason I focus on Patreon and not DPC is because I see the same trend amongst the vast majority of the developers.
 

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I'm extremely bored so I'll respond to this.
If you really hoped to amuse yourself by starting an argument,

I would like to agree with you. I also agree about the bisexual comment.
you really need to not be so danged agreeable.

Anyway, here is my offering to kindred souls if there be any:

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Complete with women who are not lucious babes, but have personalities that I, at least, really could love.
The MC is a writer who can no longer write, has made millions on his books, is sittling in a bar, not
drinking, staring at a wall (you know, shades of Marilyn Monroe). Enter the MG. She tells him he
is broken, but that is ok, because she is too. As we all are, in one way or the other, maybe.

All praise to the not-university, not magic dick, not inflatable women porn game.

However.
This *might* open up an avenue where they're both dating MC at the same time, later on down the road. Maybe not like the Maya and Josy throuple, exactly. But perhaps a version of it.
Well, maybe. In which case, I think Bella is acting entirely too normal. Fussing about Cathy's panties, taking the mc to a yoga class, puting him in the back of the room, and then (if you are on her path) complaining that he is staring at their butts whether he is or not. No, Bella, you really aren't in tune with the threesome mood here.

Yeh, Bella is so soft inside that she needs to act tough on the outside, like Quinn. I mean, if you are soft on the inside and soft on the outside, you might end up like Marilyn Monroe, or something. Regardless, I think far too little has been made here about what Quinn says to MC at the picnic. Are you about to get lost again, Quinn? And what have you done already? One must weep.
 
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Of course, this is partly his fault. Be a man and tell the girl how you feel, don’t put it off until it’s too late. His relationship problems and the drama in the aftermath are due to a lack of communication.
Her only fault is that she did not consider Tremolo as a loved one in time and may also miss her chance because of this.
In general, typical mistakes of teenagers. But if they had behaved as rationally as possible, BaDIK didn't exist in that case, and they both lived in Miami as a couple.
It's not as easy as you think. In EP9, Maya clearly asks the MC if Zoey and the MC never said the words "I love you" to each other. The MC says so that wasn't the problem, but that they never used the words "girlfriend and boyfriend".

As you correctly wrote, the lack of communication between Zoey and the MC is her fault. But they said it to each other so that they would love each other. EPP. This is where many people's thinking lies. The three words “I love you” are just three words, nothing more. These three words mean nothing if you don't show your love. This is the real problem between Zoey and the MC. They couldn't interpret the MC's gestures.

Many forget that not only does Zoey know the MC very well, but the MC also knows Zoey. What doesn't Zoey like and what makes her uncomfortable? When people talk about feelings. The MC knows that, we read that in the game. When you love someone, you will refrain from doing anything that makes your partner feel uncomfortable. This is how you show love and then you can say the 3 words because the 3 words “I love you” then have meaning.

So the reason the MC didn't say what he actually wanted to say to Zoey at the train station in Interlude was because he didn't want to make Zoey feel uncomfortable. The MC shows Zoey that he loves her by hugging Zoey when he says goodbye. Zoey, on the other hand, couldn't classify this hug and subsequently, Zoey made it more than clear to the MC so that she didn't feel the same way about the MC. When you love someone, that's how you stay in touch, you respond to messages, and you clarify when a picture comes up that's ambiguous. Zoey didn't do any of that. The blame clearly lies with Zoey. The MC acted out of love by not talking to Zoey about feelings because he wanted Zoey to feel comfortable. Zoey listened to Bret and followed Emma and Bret's example. Here's the point. When you love someone, you don't listen to such idiotic advice.

Let's move on to EP9 and EP10. In EP9, Zoey said to the MC so she hopes they can press play. So she thinks she wants to revive the relationship as it was before she left for San Diego. The word “play” is the operative word here. Why? In Interlude, Bret said to Zoey that when Emma got back from Las Vegas, it was like pressing play and the song was even better than before. But Emma and Bret made a mistake when they had sex again. Interlude meets EP9 and EP10.

When Zoey is with the MC, when he reads his mother's diary in EP10, Zoey says something to the MC. What? That the MC is a magnet for women. I'm wondering whether the MC is also a boy magnet, considering Chad's reaction in EP1. It is further implied that Zoey was expecting the MC to be with another girl, but she thinks so that she has the chance to fuck the MC again. It's not about a relationship yet, but more towards Emma and Bret. "Play." We get this “play” clue in EP8 from JB. JB thinks the MC is a "player" and Elena doesn't. Back to the topic. The crucial thing happens during the Thanksgiving party.

Zoey and the MC talk and the MC tells Zoey what he actually wanted to say to her when he left at the train station, but because he was considerate of Zoey, he didn't say it, but showed it with the hug. At the end of the conversation, the MC asks Zoey if she would have stayed if he had said that to her at the train station. And another point. Zoey is unsure and doesn't immediately answer what the MC said to her so she doesn't have to answer. What do we learn from DPC. This leaves us silent about a question that answers it. Zoey's silence gave the MC the answer.

Jacob's decision then seals fate.
 

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The problem is as Jill pointed out, that Maya signed a legal document, without even reading it. There is not much her lawyer can do about it, her signature is on a - so far assuming - legal document.
circumstances doesn't really matter, otherwise everyone would always complain. Artemis main protagonist signed up a paper, while he was drunk and did not read what he signed, because he trusted in his " girlfriend " and he learned he was fucked over by her, and he can't do anything about it legally.

Maya was an idiot, there is no other way to put it. But she grown so much in people eyes:whistle::LOL::ROFLMAO:
:coffee:
The signatures of Maya and Derek can lose their legitimacy under the legal document if it is proven that the signatures were made by fraudulent misrepresentation of the signatories. So if it is not a normal student loan, as Patrick told Maya and Derek, then the facts of fraudulent misrepresentation are given and can be proven by Maya and Derek, witnesses. The signatures of Maya and Derek therefore lose their validity.

Furthermore, Patrick uses the contract to blackmail Maya. This could lead to the contract being rescinded, as it constitutes blackmail. However, there is a catch, because Patrick could be convicted of blackmail. In this case, it is up to Maya to decide whether she wants to go down this route or not. It's important to remember that Maya knows that her mother Helen is dependent on Patrick and that her father would probably collapse. The only way out of this dilemma would be for Maya to get a lawyer involved and for the lawyer to put pressure on Patrick to pay Maya's tuition fees without Maya having to take the final step of pressing charges for blackmail. But in any case, the relationship between Maya and her father Patrick would be destroyed.
 
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If you really hoped to amuse yourself by starting an argument,



you really need to not be so danged agreeable.

Anyway, here is my offering to kindred souls if there be any:

The Author https://f95zone.to/threads/something-to-write-about-the-author-ch-7-1-stwadev.48868/

Complete with women who are not lucious babes, but have personalities that I, at least, really could love.
The MC is a writer who can no longer write, has made millions on his books, is sittling in a bar, not
drinking, staring at a wall (you know, shades of Marilyn Monroe). Enter the MG. She tells him he
is broken, but that is ok, because she is too. As we all are, in one way or the other, maybe.

All praise to the not-university, not magic dick, not inflatable women porn game.



Well, maybe. In which case, I think Bella is acting entirely too normal. Fussing about Cathy's panties, taking the mc to a yoga class, puting him in the back of the room, and then (if you are on her path) complaining that he is staring at their butts whether he is or not. No, Bella, you really aren't in tune with the threesome mood here.

Yeh, Bella is so soft inside that she needs to act tough on the outside, like Quinn. I mean, if you are soft on the inside and soft on the outside, you might end up like Marilyn Monroe, or something. Regardless, I think far too little has been made here about what Quinn says to MC at the picnic. Are you about to get lost again, Quinn? And what have you done already? One must weep.
Yeah the "bored" thing I said probably came across a little sarcastic. But it wasn't meant that way. I was just bored. Saw something to talk about and did so. So sorry if it came across like that.

I forget what Quinn says at the picnic, though I *did* do a Quinn playthrough. Most of that playthrough, the whole bodyguard thing is what sticks in my memory the most, for whatever reason.

I think in general you're right about Bella. I think if there were any kind of threesome possibility it would only be with Jill, because they're close and Jill *might* have some kind of attraction to Bella. But I don't know. Only time will tell. And probably what kind of mood DPC is in.

I'll check out that link, thanks for the suggestion.
 
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